Fitz will not play preseason game 4

[flgreen]

Is it really "stress" if Petty realizes he's only going in because there's no other option?

If Fitz gets hurt week 3 and Petty has to play 1+ games, I don't think it would hurt his psyche. Of course he'd want to do his best, but if things didn't go as well as planned it would practically be expected, and he could learn from the experience once back on the sidelines.

If Geno is going to miss 2 months, then it's a different story. But right now I agree that I'd rather roll the dice with Fitz/Petty until the bye (unless they see long-term potential with either of the other two) . . .

I'm not really disagreeing with you, but it really doesn't matter how we view it. It's how Bowles, and probably Gailey view it.

Bowles has pretty clearly stated Petty will not be the #2 on opening day. He seems to have gone to great lengths to ensure that he won't be.

I personally don't have a problem with Petty being #2 short term to save a valuable roster spot. It appears that Bowles has a problem with it..

 

[Lakerfan80]

It's just until Geno comes back and backs up Fitz. Hopefully Fitz stays healthy. Petty was drafted in round 4 as a developmental project and just isn't ready.

 

[jets82]

Good

No need to risk injury to a valuable starting QB

Valuable huh, lol ok! Makes since their not playing him but calling him valuable, lol ok.

 

[sg3]

Lol,ok

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[OCCH]

I'm not really disagreeing with you, but it really doesn't matter how we view it. It's how Bowles, and probably Gailey view it.

Bowles has pretty clearly stated Petty will not be the [URL=http://jetsfansunited.com/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] on opening day. He seems to have gone to great lengths to ensure that he won't be.

I personally don't have a problem with Petty being [URL=http://jetsfansunited.com/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] short term to save a valuable roster spot. It appears that Bowles has a problem with it..

I see what you're saying, but there's a big difference between "Petty is our #2 " and "we're gonna hope Fitz can make it until the bye".

In the end, it comes down to if they prioritize Petty's mental state above the overall strength of the team. In a perfect world, having 4 QBs isn't back-breaking. But depending who we let go if/when it happens, I hope they don't make too big a deal about something that may never come to be . . .

 

[Elias]

Valuable huh, lol ok! Makes since their not playing him but calling him valuable, lol ok.

you don't think Fitzpatrick is valuable?

 

[hobson54]

i've said it elsewhere but the "easy" solution is to keep ridley on the PUP list and go into the season with 3 RBs (ivory, powell and stacy) plus a FB. when geno is ready for game action, they can waive a QB and activate ridley. most teams carry 4 RBs on a roster.

 

[jets82]

you don't think Fitzpatrick is valuable?

Nope, not at all, not for one single solitary second, not in a million years and not in this lifetime. Brady, Breez, Luck, Rodgers, Big Ben, Manning (both), Rivers, Wilson, Flacco, Newton and a few more (like 2 or 3) are valuable. You know, QBs you can depend on to win a SB. QBs that have proven it already and won it or their stats and game play prove they can carry a team if needed to help win a SB. Fitz is serviceable at best. Geno could have been serviceable also. I don't think we have a QB on our roster that is valuable. Petty I think can be but needs time to develop into that. If Fitz proves me wrong then so be it but until then, he is not valuable at all.

 

[Elias]

Nope, not at all, not for one single solitary second, not in a million years and not in this lifetime. Brady, Breez, Luck, Rodgers, Big Ben, Manning (both), Rivers, Wilson, Flacco, Newton and a few more (like 2 or 3) are valuable. You know, QBs you can depend on to win a SB. QBs that have proven it already and won it or their stats and game play prove they can carry a team if needed to help win a SB. Fitz is serviceable at best. Geno could have been serviceable also. I don't think we have a QB on our roster that is valuable. Petty I think can be but needs time to develop into that. If Fitz proves me wrong then so be it but until then, he is not valuable at all.

If Fitz plays in this fourth preseason game our season is over before it began. Geno may be serviceable but he won't be able to play until week 5 probably. That's a long time to have Flynn as your qb.

Fitz is very valuable. He's the best qb we have. He's not those superstars that you mentioned but he gives us the best shot to win games right now.

 

[jets82]

If Fitz plays in this fourth preseason game our season is over before it began. Geno may be serviceable but he won't be able to play until week 5 probably. That's a long time to have Flynn as your qb.

Fitz is very valuable. He's the best qb we have. He's not those superstars that you mentioned but he gives us the best shot to win games right now.

Fitz being the best QB on our roster is very debatable IMO but pointless to get into that. This is not the thread for that debate. He is the most mature, I will definitely give you that but that to me doesn't make him valuable. He may be the most serviceable QB we have but that doesn't make him valuable. Like I said before, we dont have a QB on this roster that is valuable. I think Petty can be but he has to prove it also and also has to grow into that, if he can. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Fitz because he aint valuable. Once again, if he proves me wrong then so be it but until he does it on the field, no one will convince me he's valuable.

 

[sg3]

Deleted my response

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Fitz being the best QB on our roster is very debatable IMO but pointless to get into that. This is not the thread for that debate. He is the most mature, I will definitely give you that but that to me doesn't make him valuable. He may be the most serviceable QB we have but that doesn't make him valuable. Like I said before, we dont have a QB on this roster that is valuable. I think Petty can be but he has to prove it also and also has to grow into that, if he can. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Fitz because he aint valuable. Once again, if he proves me wrong then so be it but until he does it on the field, no one will convince me he's valuable.

I bet you thought the same about Vinny T as well like most of us did. I don't blame you for not believing in Fitz, but there has not been one pre season in 6+ years that we saw an offense at least look decent like ours has so far. I also agree he has to prove it on the field, but right now to me season is over if Fitz goes down.

 

[jets82]

I bet you thought the same about Vinny T as well like most of us did. I don't blame you for not believing in Fitz, but there has not been one pre season in 6+ years that we saw an offense at least look decent like ours has so far. I also agree he has to prove it on the field, but right now to me season is over if Fitz goes down.

Glad you get where I'm coming from.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I think this team knows he is valuable and they believe in him. He has lots of weapons and a great running game. He knows this offense way better than anyone else.

 

[OCCH]

It's somewhere between foolish and ignorant to say there's no "value" in your starting QB. You don't have to think Fitz is any good at all, but if he's not here:

1) Petty has to start games WAY before he's ready, or
2) A different backup has to start, with minimal reason to think he'd do better than Fitz, or
3) We have to trade for a QB, likely overpaying in the process, or
4) Geno has to start with 1/2 a face, (which likely wouldn't be any worse than he was full-faced), or
5) We have a contest during pregame and whichever fan wins finds himself behind center, or
6) We forfeit all games until a better option presents itself, or
7) We pray for A Series of Unfortunate Events (currently reading that with my daughter!) that leads to game cancellations for the first month of the season

So, in light of ALL the situations Fitzpatrick is currently saving us from enduring, I'd have to say he's "valuable" enough to protect on Thursday . . .

 

[sg3]

It will be nice to see what an adult QB with a clue can do on the field with these added weapons, especially after watching the last 4 years of drive killing turnover machines at the helm

 

[Elias]

It will be nice to see what an adult QB with a clue can do on the field with these added weapons, especially after watching the last 4 years of drive killing turnover machines at the helm

yes, let's move on. lol

 

[jets82]

To Elias and Tebow, IMHOO I will break down the starting QBs into categories of elite, valuable and serviceable.

Elite: Rodgers, Brady, Breez, Big Ben, Luck, P. Manning (probably on his way to the next level down if he isnt already there)

Valuable to Elite: Wilson, Newton, Rivers, Flacco, E. Manning

Valuable only: Romo, Ryan, Stafford

Serviceable to Valuable: A. Smith, Kaepernick, Bradford, Foles, Mariota, Winston, Bortles, Carr, Bridgewater, Tannehill, Cutler, T. Taylor

Serviceable only: Fitzpatrick, Hoyer, Dalton

Below Serviceable: McCown, Cousins

 

[jets82]

It's somewhere between foolish and ignorant to say there's no "value" in your starting QB. You don't have to think Fitz is any good at all, but if he's not here:

1) Petty has to start games WAY before he's ready, or
2) A different backup has to start, with minimal reason to think he'd do better than Fitz, or
3) We have to trade for a QB, likely overpaying in the process, or
4) Geno has to start with 1/2 a face, (which likely wouldn't be any worse than he was full-faced), or
5) We have a contest during pregame and whichever fan wins finds himself behind center, or
6) We forfeit all games until a better option presents itself, or
7) We pray for A Series of Unfortunate Events (currently reading that with my daughter!) that leads to game cancellations for the first month of the season

So, in light of ALL the situations Fitzpatrick is currently saving us from enduring, I'd have to say he's "valuable" enough to protect on Thursday . . .

If you want to say he's valauble for all those reason and not his ability to play on the field, I will give you that. But if your saying he is valuable because of his talent level and what he's done over his NFL career, we'll have to disagree.

 

[ucrenegade]

to be honest i think fitz nor petty needs to play

i would even go as far as saying i think petty has passed geno on the dc.