Then you have to play the kid. If you draft a #1 pick QB the GM has committed his job to the #1 pick and Petty will never play; not saying it is fair but it is the NFL.
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Then you have to play the kid. If you draft a #1 pick QB the GM has committed his job to the #1 pick and Petty will never play; not saying it is fair but it is the NFL.
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Agree
PFF reports that over his 2 years smith holds onto the ball for 4.3 seconds. Fitz gets it out in 2.7.
Could you imagine what smith would have done under the pressure that Fitz was under today? LOL it would have been a classic.
All we can hope is that Petty is the real deal and he can pick up that "balls to the wall" attitude that Fitz plays with.
Getting a bit concerned about this guy.
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I agree that you keep drafting blue-chip QB's until YOU KNOW that you found your guy, or at least you've seen enough good things to have strong reasons to believe you have found your guy, all the more reason why you want to get a good look at Petty in my view. I'M LIKE YOU, I'm not stopping until we find our QB, so I'm using a first round pick on one if we have a crack at a potential franchise QB, I might even sell the farm to move up for one ... but I would hate to throw those valuable commodities away, only to find out later that Petty was the guy all along.
Forget next training camp, let the kid play now!
Front offices aren't infallible. But when you say what "we need to see," you are both suggesting that we, as fans, need that knowledge and that the front office is only allowed to evaluate Petty's long-term potential by putting him in games down the stretch.
At 5-5, and with a reasonable schedule down the stretch, it is hardly time to throw in the towel. But even if it was, if the front office believed more in letting Petty develop in practice and in team meetings more than they believed in letting him develop in game action at the end of a lost season, then that's what they believe, and I don't trust my own opinions enough to challenge that thinking.
The board is about expressing your opinion and I respect that. The front office will do whatever they do and they are right 50% of the time. What we vent here is just opinions. I don't believe the management knows much more than we do.
What in his practices has he shown you that tells you he's ready?
I haven't seen him in practice, especially since the season started, so I don't know. What have you seen in him? His release? Footwork? Reads? What makes him not just a different option, but a better option?
Excellent Point, Upshaw, indeed if we do draft a QB in the first round, that guy would have to get hurt or outright bust over a number of years before Petty even gets a chance. You are correct, any regime that invests a first round pick in a QB is essentially tied to that QB for the foreseeable future. That guy is going to get every opportunity to succeed, so Petty's career essentially gets put on hold, before he even got a chance to show anyone what he can be.
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Got to agree with ya on this one Sack.
If this season is a wash, so be it. If keeping Petty on the bench, and in Fitz's hip pocket makes him a better QB down the road, as much as i hate it, I can wait.
The only scenario where I see the team turning to Petty is if the team is 6-8 and officially out of any playoff contention. They give Bryce a few warm up games for next season.
I think management knows a lot more than we do. It's not because they're smarter than us. It's because they do this 24/7, and they have access to a VAST amount more information than we have.
They have film. Real film, not TV broadcasts. The systems NFL teams have now are so advanced compared to what any fan would have access to, it's insane. They have pro development staffs overseeing guys like him. They have practices and team meetings in which to evaluate him. They have a wealth of resources, whereas the average fan goes on youtube, watches a couple highlight films, and calls it "breaking down film." It's not. It's watching highlight films.
They're in general not smarter than us. But they are more experienced at doing this, and they have a tremendous amount more resources than we have.
He has had a chance to show the people making the decision what he has, every day since being drafted.
He just hasn't had a chance to show you or me or other fans since the season began.
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One thing we're over looking in all this "Fitz isn't the long term answer" talk is that for the 4th week in a row, the entire team was horrible.
They came out seemingly unprepared, and uninspired. Marshall dropped yet another 40 yard ball. Devin Smith dropped 2 long balls, including a long TD. Still missed tackles at critical points. CB's being whipped like dogs. The OL was a joke.
I'm more concerned about that then I am about Fitz throwing 2 picks after he was clearly concussed.
They came out seemingly unprepared, and uninspired. Marshall dropped yet another 40 yard ball. Devin Smith dropped 2 long balls, including a long TD. Still missed tackles at critical points. CB's being whipped like dogs. The OL was a joke.
I'm more concerned about that then I am about Fitz throwing 2 picks after he was clearly concussed.
Perhaps but it is a lot more of doing what they are told to CYA. Right now it appears we have way overrated this management and the team has no direction but down.
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i think Petty is still where he was when Gailey said this, to para phase "I like where he's going, he's just not there yet"
It was wrong of the team, coaches and doctors to let him go back out there. Playoff game you do this, not a meaningless game between a couple of hopefuls. Shame on the JETs.
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I agree. I was stunned when he came back in. After the TD, he was clearly in ga-ga land
Why do you think this?
It speaks to how little Bowles trusts Geno. Petty was inactive, so its no reflection on him. The only alternative today was Geno, and Bowles preferred a concussed, one-handed Fitzpatrick.
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Exactly what Ham said below. Clearly the Jets have no confidence in smith. Yet still they are dressing him before Petty. I think they like Petty, they let him play backup to open the season, and they had options.
IMO they feel they are going to be around, for at least a few seasons, they want what they are hoping is a franchise QB to develop properly. We as Jets' fans have witnessed what happens to QB's ,who aren't ready, to be thrown to the dogs.
Their giving him a 'red shirt year'.
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