The Tuna was involved in not getting Peyton yea Tuna..
Peyton would have been run out of town after a poor rookie season.
At what point did you know the season was over and Geno wasn't our future QB?
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Peyton would have been run out of town after a poor rookie season.
Probably, but I sure would have liked to see what happened.
Would have been great. Imagine Peyton and Eli both in New York, battling it out. All the Peyton vs. Brady divisional games...would have been great. Oh well, wasn't meant to be I guess.
Yes after your pessimistic post about how we are going to suck for years..
We will revisit in a couple of years.
Could be worse...Our future could be Andy Dalton. Or our coach could be Marvin Lewis. These guys suck in the playoffs!!
Had Peyton gone to the Jets in 1997 no way would Eli have gone to the Giants in 2004 IMO..
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The Bills game when he threw three interceptions in a row. I've supported him and believed that quarterbacks need at least three years to develop but after seeing him make the same mistakes and seeing him being so inconsistent week after week I knew he wasn't our future.
I hated the pick when it happened but I did my best to give him a fair chance. Honestly he has shown enough so far to not give up completely. I don't hold much hope but some. Bottom line he has improved. He was a project coming in and we knew it. Improvement is improvement no matter what. 3rd year is typically when a QB takes the big step or fall on their face.
We will see next year but not without some real competition.
We will see next year but not without some real competition.
but whoever it is will need at least a couple more playmakers both on defense & offense
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This year Buffalo at Jet Life
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If for some reason The Bucs pass on Winston with the #1 pick, I think the'll take him, the Jets need to get Tenn. on the phone and convince them what a great QB Zack is.
WalterFootball.com - Detailed NFL Mock Drafts, Player Prospect Rankings, and One of the Largest Mock Draft Databases on the Web
2015 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Jameis Winston
Jameis Winston, 6-4/230
Quarterback
Florida State
Jameis Winston Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell
Strengths:
Excellent pocket passer
Phenomenal at making progressions through his receivers
Great pocket presence
Accurate thrower
Phenomenal anticipation
Innate timing
Quick release
Throws into tight windows
Generally a good decision-maker
Advanced field vision
Keeps his eyes downfield while scrambling
Mobile with running ability
Makes plays with his feet
Throws well on the run
Bails out blockers with ability to avoid sacks
Hard to tackle; tough to bring down for sacks
Very intelligent; understands the chess match
Audibles well
Mastered a pro-style offense
Has worked under center as well as shotgun
Impressive football I.Q.
Proven leader with passion for the game
Winner at collegiate level 26-1 as starter
Great at fourth-quarter comebacks
Experienced 2-year starter
Excellent on third downs
Good teammate
Does everything coaches ask of him
Quality arm that can make all the throws for the NFL
Ideal height, bulk
Durable
Toughness, plays injured
Weaknesses:
Very immature off the field
Numerous off-the-field transgressions
Increase in interceptions as a sophomore
Had some slow starts to games in 2014
Summary: Winston took college football by storm in 2013 as the Heisman Trophy winner while leading Florida State to a National Championship. The redshirt freshman demonstrated a quality arm with well-developed passing ability. Winston completed 67 percent of his passes for 4,057 yards with 40 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. On the ground, he ran for 219 yards with four touchdowns.
Winston completed 65 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,907 yards with 25 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. He also had three rushing touchdowns. Winston threw more interceptions over 2013, but aside from the Florida game, he had a fine season. Winston illustrated throughout 2014 that he can bring his team back from deficits and pull games out in the fourth quarter. His 26-1 record as a starter is no accident.
As a pocket passer, Winston is extraordinary. He is phenomenal in the pocket and can carve up a defense. Winston has very good field vision and does a superb job of scanning the field while working through his progressions. It is an innate ability that Winston has displayed from the very beginning of his tenure as a starter, and it is extremely rare to see in a college quarterback. He hangs tough in the face of the pass rush, steps into throws when he's going to get hit, and moves well in the pocket while keeping his eyes downfield. Sources say that Winston has a good football I.Q. and will impress teams in pre-draft meetings.
Winston also has great anticipation and timing. For example, he has had pressure in his face but still throws passes before receivers make their break so the ball hits them between the numbers as soon as they turn around. Those are phenomenal throws for any level of football. Winston also throws some brilliant passes into tight windows to beat good coverage. When plays break down, Winston can make plays with his feet, and if defenses leave him uncovered, he will hurt them on them on the ground.
Winston can do it all as a quarterback and enters the NFL ready to start quickly.
The only real negative for Winston is off-the-field problems, and some teams are going to pass on him because of it. One scouting director said those off-the-field problems "are real and more than advertised." Winston's suspension while Florida State faced off against Clemson almost, and should have, cost his team a win. In speaking with sources, some NFL teams have real doubts about Winston and think he could have Jamarcus Russell-level off-the-field problems. Other sources feel that Winston's off-the-field issues are immaturity that he'll grow out of and have been overblown. They say that Winston is a leader in the locker room, a good teammate, and does everything asked of him by the football and baseball coaches at Florida State. One general manager told WalterFootball.com that Winston is the real deal.
As a prospect from a pure football perspective and ignoring the off-the-field issues, Winston is elite and in Andrew Luck's ballpark as a quarterback prospect. Winston is a potential franchise quarterback who can lead his team to championships. Numerous sources from multiple teams agree that Winston is just a little bit behind Luck, but is a better prospect than Cam Newton, Sam Bradford or Matthew Stafford were when they came out and went No. 1 overall. The off-the-field issues are the things that could derail Winston from reaching his potential. However, one can be sure that some team is going to look past the off-the-field issues and take Winston early in the 2015 NFL Draft.
WalterFootball.com - Detailed NFL Mock Drafts, Player Prospect Rankings, and One of the Largest Mock Draft Databases on the Web
2015 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Jameis Winston
Jameis Winston, 6-4/230
Quarterback
Florida State
Jameis Winston Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell
Strengths:
Excellent pocket passer
Phenomenal at making progressions through his receivers
Great pocket presence
Accurate thrower
Phenomenal anticipation
Innate timing
Quick release
Throws into tight windows
Generally a good decision-maker
Advanced field vision
Keeps his eyes downfield while scrambling
Mobile with running ability
Makes plays with his feet
Throws well on the run
Bails out blockers with ability to avoid sacks
Hard to tackle; tough to bring down for sacks
Very intelligent; understands the chess match
Audibles well
Mastered a pro-style offense
Has worked under center as well as shotgun
Impressive football I.Q.
Proven leader with passion for the game
Winner at collegiate level 26-1 as starter
Great at fourth-quarter comebacks
Experienced 2-year starter
Excellent on third downs
Good teammate
Does everything coaches ask of him
Quality arm that can make all the throws for the NFL
Ideal height, bulk
Durable
Toughness, plays injured
Weaknesses:
Very immature off the field
Numerous off-the-field transgressions
Increase in interceptions as a sophomore
Had some slow starts to games in 2014
Summary: Winston took college football by storm in 2013 as the Heisman Trophy winner while leading Florida State to a National Championship. The redshirt freshman demonstrated a quality arm with well-developed passing ability. Winston completed 67 percent of his passes for 4,057 yards with 40 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. On the ground, he ran for 219 yards with four touchdowns.
Winston completed 65 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,907 yards with 25 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. He also had three rushing touchdowns. Winston threw more interceptions over 2013, but aside from the Florida game, he had a fine season. Winston illustrated throughout 2014 that he can bring his team back from deficits and pull games out in the fourth quarter. His 26-1 record as a starter is no accident.
As a pocket passer, Winston is extraordinary. He is phenomenal in the pocket and can carve up a defense. Winston has very good field vision and does a superb job of scanning the field while working through his progressions. It is an innate ability that Winston has displayed from the very beginning of his tenure as a starter, and it is extremely rare to see in a college quarterback. He hangs tough in the face of the pass rush, steps into throws when he's going to get hit, and moves well in the pocket while keeping his eyes downfield. Sources say that Winston has a good football I.Q. and will impress teams in pre-draft meetings.
Winston also has great anticipation and timing. For example, he has had pressure in his face but still throws passes before receivers make their break so the ball hits them between the numbers as soon as they turn around. Those are phenomenal throws for any level of football. Winston also throws some brilliant passes into tight windows to beat good coverage. When plays break down, Winston can make plays with his feet, and if defenses leave him uncovered, he will hurt them on them on the ground.
Winston can do it all as a quarterback and enters the NFL ready to start quickly.
The only real negative for Winston is off-the-field problems, and some teams are going to pass on him because of it. One scouting director said those off-the-field problems "are real and more than advertised." Winston's suspension while Florida State faced off against Clemson almost, and should have, cost his team a win. In speaking with sources, some NFL teams have real doubts about Winston and think he could have Jamarcus Russell-level off-the-field problems. Other sources feel that Winston's off-the-field issues are immaturity that he'll grow out of and have been overblown. They say that Winston is a leader in the locker room, a good teammate, and does everything asked of him by the football and baseball coaches at Florida State. One general manager told WalterFootball.com that Winston is the real deal.
As a prospect from a pure football perspective and ignoring the off-the-field issues, Winston is elite and in Andrew Luck's ballpark as a quarterback prospect. Winston is a potential franchise quarterback who can lead his team to championships. Numerous sources from multiple teams agree that Winston is just a little bit behind Luck, but is a better prospect than Cam Newton, Sam Bradford or Matthew Stafford were when they came out and went No. 1 overall. The off-the-field issues are the things that could derail Winston from reaching his potential. However, one can be sure that some team is going to look past the off-the-field issues and take Winston early in the 2015 NFL Draft.
I agree 1000%.
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