In the Spotlight: The Jets' wide receivers

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The Jets are already beginning to clear salary cap space, but they know they still have a lot of work to do if they're going to be players in this year's free-agent market. They could easily help heir situation and clear more than $13 million in space by cutting their two veteran receivers who'll turn 30 and 33 in March.

With a stable of young, promising receivers on the roster, and with a team that is most definitely not ready to win now, the idea of parting ways with Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall makes a lot of sense. Of course, it was only two seasons ago where they were as good as any 1-2 punch in football.

And that could be a good thing for a new, young quarterback to have.

That's why it's not as easy a decision as it seems as the Jets ponder what to do with their receivers. Marshall is probably in the most precarious position due to his age (soon to be 33) and the fact he's coming off one of his worst NFL seasons (59 catches for 799 yards). It didn't help his case that he was in the middle of some of the Jets' locker room issues -- a vocal and controversial leader who rubbed some of his defensive teammates the wrong way.

Add in the fact that the Jets could clear his entire $7.5 million salary and cap number off their books by releasing him, and it seems like an easy call. He's entering the final year of his contract and almost certainly wouldn't be re-signed after that anyway. They could let him go and use a portion of the money to replace him with someone else.

Of course, the wisdom of that depends on what they're replacing. If the Jets believe he's a receiver in decline, that his miserable 2016 was a sign of things to come, they won't have trouble finding someone to duplicate those numbers. But it's hard to forget that just two seasons ago he caught 109 passes for 1,502 yards and 14 touchdowns. A 6-4 receiver who can put up numbers like that will be almost impossible to find on the free agent market or in the draft.

Figuring out the value of Decker is more difficult because his 2016 season was cut short by injuries, and he's recovering from both shoulder and hip surgeries. He's almost certain to be sidelined through the spring and the Jets won't get their first real good look at him until the summer. By then he'll be 30 and who knows how close he'll be to the receiver he was in 2015, when he caught 80 passes for 1,027 yards and 12 touchdowns.

Then again, the injuries make him a perfect candidate for a restructure or a pay cut. He's due a salary of $7.25 million and a cap number of $8.75 million. Cutting him would clear $5.75 million in cap space, and the Jets could easily do that by getting him to agree to a reduced salary -- he'd surely make more from them than he'd get as an injured, 30-year-old on the open market -- or converting some of his salary into bonuses.

So unless the Jets get a bad medical report on Decker, it's a good bet that's what they'll try to do.

Whatever they do with Marshall and Decker, though, the Jets clearly believe their future is elsewhere. They are thrilled with the development of Quincy Enunwa, a sixth-round pick in 2014 who had 58 catches for 857 yards and four touchdowns last season. They believe the 6-2, 225 pounder can be a good No. 2 receiver, though they aren't quite sold on him as a No. 1.

They also have a trio of young receivers that they really like in Robby Anderson (42-587-2), Charone Peake (19-186-0) and Jalin Marshall (14-162-2). They also have Devin Smith, their second-rounder from 2015, who barely played last season while recovering from ACL surgery. It's been easy to forget about him while pondering the Jets' future, but he's still only 24.

So there is talent on the roster at receiver -- at least that's what the Jets believe -- and they'll have time for it to grow with presumably a new, young quarterback at the helm of the offense. That doesn't bode well for the future of Marshall or Decker with the Jets -- definitely in the long-term, and maybe not even in the short-term -- even if it would be good for a new, young quarterback to have at least one proven, talented receiver at his side.
 

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if the fire sale continues, (revis, richardson, pryor, gilcrist & skrine) bringing back marshall & decker makes sense to me.. so long as petty, hackenberg or some kid in the draft is the starting QB..

that & marshall stops kidding himself that his 7.5 million in '17 doesn't need to be renegotiated..

we can be 4-12 with or without him..
 

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In our current state that's being overly optimistic
i'm still trying to understand why we are handing bowles a complete rebuild, when seemingly he has almost no chance of keeping his job..

all of these sideway moves with the coaching will be for absolutely nothing going into '18 when we reboot again, two years running.. but what do i know??
 

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i'm still trying to understand why we are handing bowles a complete rebuild, when seemingly he has almost no chance of keeping his job..

all of these sideway moves with the coaching will be for absolutely nothing going into '18 when we reboot again, two years running.. but what do i know??
I think Woody may have actually learned something from his miss handling in the past. Bowles first staff was based on the players he had and coaches available.

Now in rebuild mode, he's bringing in younger teaching staff to match the much younger guys that will be coming in. Gailey wasn't a long term solution. A lot of these coaches won't mind a rebuild because they've been promoted.

And if Bowles doesn't work out, maybe one of these new guys turns into a gem.

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The Jets are already beginning to clear salary cap space, but they know they still have a lot of work to do if they're going to be players in this year's free-agent market. They could easily help heir situation and clear more than $13 million in space by cutting their two veteran receivers who'll turn 30 and 33 in March.

With a stable of young, promising receivers on the roster, and with a team that is most definitely not ready to win now, the idea of parting ways with Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall makes a lot of sense. Of course, it was only two seasons ago where they were as good as any 1-2 punch in football.

And that could be a good thing for a new, young quarterback to have.

That's why it's not as easy a decision as it seems as the Jets ponder what to do with their receivers. Marshall is probably in the most precarious position due to his age (soon to be 33) and the fact he's coming off one of his worst NFL seasons (59 catches for 799 yards). It didn't help his case that he was in the middle of some of the Jets' locker room issues -- a vocal and controversial leader who rubbed some of his defensive teammates the wrong way.

Add in the fact that the Jets could clear his entire $7.5 million salary and cap number off their books by releasing him, and it seems like an easy call. He's entering the final year of his contract and almost certainly wouldn't be re-signed after that anyway. They could let him go and use a portion of the money to replace him with someone else.

Of course, the wisdom of that depends on what they're replacing. If the Jets believe he's a receiver in decline, that his miserable 2016 was a sign of things to come, they won't have trouble finding someone to duplicate those numbers. But it's hard to forget that just two seasons ago he caught 109 passes for 1,502 yards and 14 touchdowns. A 6-4 receiver who can put up numbers like that will be almost impossible to find on the free agent market or in the draft.

Figuring out the value of Decker is more difficult because his 2016 season was cut short by injuries, and he's recovering from both shoulder and hip surgeries. He's almost certain to be sidelined through the spring and the Jets won't get their first real good look at him until the summer. By then he'll be 30 and who knows how close he'll be to the receiver he was in 2015, when he caught 80 passes for 1,027 yards and 12 touchdowns.

Then again, the injuries make him a perfect candidate for a restructure or a pay cut. He's due a salary of $7.25 million and a cap number of $8.75 million. Cutting him would clear $5.75 million in cap space, and the Jets could easily do that by getting him to agree to a reduced salary -- he'd surely make more from them than he'd get as an injured, 30-year-old on the open market -- or converting some of his salary into bonuses.

So unless the Jets get a bad medical report on Decker, it's a good bet that's what they'll try to do.

Whatever they do with Marshall and Decker, though, the Jets clearly believe their future is elsewhere. They are thrilled with the development of Quincy Enunwa, a sixth-round pick in 2014 who had 58 catches for 857 yards and four touchdowns last season. They believe the 6-2, 225 pounder can be a good No. 2 receiver, though they aren't quite sold on him as a No. 1.

They also have a trio of young receivers that they really like in Robby Anderson (42-587-2), Charone Peake (19-186-0) and Jalin Marshall (14-162-2). They also have Devin Smith, their second-rounder from 2015, who barely played last season while recovering from ACL surgery. It's been easy to forget about him while pondering the Jets' future, but he's still only 24.

So there is talent on the roster at receiver -- at least that's what the Jets believe -- and they'll have time for it to grow with presumably a new, young quarterback at the helm of the offense. That doesn't bode well for the future of Marshall or Decker with the Jets -- definitely in the long-term, and maybe not even in the short-term -- even if it would be good for a new, young quarterback to have at least one proven, talented receiver at his side.
I think moving forward with robbie anderson as your number 1 and enunwa, is a big mistake.
Marshall sounded down on himself at the super bowl. He said,"I'm not elite anymore, not with 700 some yards." For a guy that loves ny,and said he'd play for free, I'd cut his pay and let him prove it. I think his drop in production was due to his twisted knee in Buffalo, and Eric Decker going down. He was easy to defend as the only threat and a bum knee.

Decker is still a very productive receiver,and has been the team guy. Reports were spinning the hip surgery as a surprise, and that he's been playing with that injury since arriving here. It may be a good thing that problem is now resolved. I say reduce both contracts and keep them here while attempting to teach a new qb, and share time with young wrs. These guys are better and cheaper than any fa options, and allow you to transition young guys.

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I think moving forward with robbie anderson as your number 1 and enunwa, is a big mistake.
Marshall sounded down on himself at the super bowl. He said,"I'm not elite anymore, not with 700 some yards." For a guy that loves ny,and said he'd play for free, I'd cut his pay and let him prove it. I think his drop in production was due to his twisted knee in Buffalo, and Eric Decker going down. He was easy to defend as the only threat and a bum knee.

Decker is still a very productive receiver,and has been the team guy. Reports were spinning the hip surgery as a surprise, and that he's been playing with that injury since arriving here. It may be a good thing that problem is now resolved. I say reduce both contracts and keep them here while attempting to teach a new qb, and share time with young wrs. These guys are better and cheaper than any fa options, and allow you to transition young guys.

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again if they are planning a full rebuild and overhauling utilizing the youth on the roster we have talent and that is undeniable, there is no reason to keep heavy handed contracts for aging players in their decline... yes they may have bounce back year but what if they don't?

Robbie Anderson looks like he can be a true #1... Quincy Enunwa like Eric Decker has the ability to be a solid #2... It comes down to who is the #3, is the #3 on the roster or do we draft someone, or sign a free agent... So with Jalin Marshall, Charone Peake and Devin Smith one of these guys could be that guy... There are some options in free agency and plenty second and third day prospects that can fill that hole...

How many receivers do we need? 6 at most, so basically to keep those two then leaves only 4 spots at most... Quincy Enunwa gets a spot but between Devin Smith, Charone Peake, Jalin Marshall and free agent or draft pick compete for the final 3 spots... Or the fact is clear the cap space via simple release or trade and allow these kids to develop with a team that will compete but isn't heading to the playoffs unless these kids prove the doubters they are true ballers...
 

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again if they are planning a full rebuild and overhauling utilizing the youth on the roster we have talent and that is undeniable, there is no reason to keep heavy handed contracts for aging players in their decline... yes they may have bounce back year but what if they don't?

Robbie Anderson looks like he can be a true #1... Quincy Enunwa like Eric Decker has the ability to be a solid #2... It comes down to who is the #3, is the #3 on the roster or do we draft someone, or sign a free agent... So with Jalin Marshall, Charone Peake and Devin Smith one of these guys could be that guy... There are some options in free agency and plenty second and third day prospects that can fill that hole...

How many receivers do we need? 6 at most, so basically to keep those two then leaves only 4 spots at most... Quincy Enunwa gets a spot but between Devin Smith, Charone Peake, Jalin Marshall and free agent or draft pick compete for the final 3 spots... Or the fact is clear the cap space via simple release or trade and allow these kids to develop with a team that will compete but isn't heading to the playoffs unless these kids prove the doubters they are true ballers...
I disagree anderson is ready, the guy is a burner wroth good hands. I have hope that he will become that guy, but not that he is there yet. I didn't see him beating double teams.

However, I see alshon Jeffrey is expected to leave Chicago. I'd cut Marshall and Decker for him. Opens up a spot, and leaves us with a clear number 1 to take pressure off of young guys.

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I disagree anderson is ready, the guy is a burner wroth good hands. I have hope that he will become that guy, but not that he is there yet. I didn't see him beating double teams.

However, I see alshon Jeffrey is expected to leave Chicago. I'd cut Marshall and Decker for him. Opens up a spot, and leaves us with a clear number 1 to take pressure off of young guys.

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Jeffrey too expensive... Robbie Anderson working out to build upon his success... He needs to get stronger but in the time he played with the QB play we had during that time he was better than expected... Understand this there is NO set QB in place, no reason to pay a free agent a boat load of money to come here... Anderson has the foundation like I said to be a true #1 but it is the transition he takes from his first year to the second year...

With Enunwa he is almost comparable to Alshon Jeffrey skill set and potential difference is Q is younger and more physical... Q also more durable than Jeffrey...

Don't get me wrong I wanted to draft Jeffrey but now rather keep the players in house to continue their development moving forward...
 

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Something else to keep in mind is the re-introduction of the TE position to the Jets offense. We will probably draft in the first 3 rounds a very good pass catching prospect like Njoku, Engram, Everett, Hodges or Shaheen at the position, so maybe we don't need a true top tier (and expensive) WR.
 

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Jeffrey too expensive... Robbie Anderson working out to build upon his success... He needs to get stronger but in the time he played with the QB play we had during that time he was better than expected... Understand this there is NO set QB in place, no reason to pay a free agent a boat load of money to come here... Anderson has the foundation like I said to be a true #1 but it is the transition he takes from his first year to the second year...

With Enunwa he is almost comparable to Alshon Jeffrey skill set and potential difference is Q is younger and more physical... Q also more durable than Jeffrey...

Don't get me wrong I wanted to draft Jeffrey but now rather keep the players in house to continue their development moving forward...
I hope anderson continues his upward trend, but it is way to early to declare him a number 1.

Right now Marshall and Decker cost us about 11 million, wouldn't cutting them and giving Jeffrey 11 million be a major improvement and also align with our changing landscape? Our number 1 gets 6 years younger and would start opposite robbie anderson. With enunwa on down,left to fill in the role positions and further develop.

I think that's a switch that makes sense. We get younger, open up a slot at wr for a draft pick, give our young QB's a legitimate playmaker. If fournette or cook fall in our lap, that's a great position for a qb to be in. Draft ot in second round to help protect the qb, sign edge rusher in fa. And we've made some pretty painless improvements which could drastically improve this team for 3 plus years.

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