the last time jets were any good

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I couldn't find any videos of both offense and defense. This is just Sanchez's play. He really came through during the playoffs. Tanenbaum really built the team the right way then. Solid online and solid surrounding cast. Hopefully we can get back to that level but I feel like Mac neglects the oline.

the downfall began when they thought Sanchez can lead the team but he was and always will be a game manager that needed an all star cast to succeed.
 

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I'd say the last time the Jets were any good, they won 10 games. I don't see how they weren't any good when they went 10-6.
 

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I'd say the last time the Jets were any good, they won 10 games. I don't see how they weren't any good when they went 10-6.

You can't compare a deep playoff run to a team that didn't make the playoffs. Yes, similar records and the jets had bad luck last year because any other year ten wins gets you in, but, last year's team was badly flawed. Didn't beat a team with a winning record, defense was struggling towards the end of the year.
 

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You can't compare a deep playoff run to a team that didn't make the playoffs. Yes, similar records and the jets had bad luck last year because any other year ten wins gets you in, but, last year's team was badly flawed. Didn't beat a team with a winning record, defense was struggling towards the end of the year.

The Jets did beat the Patriots last year. They had a winning record.

And Rex gets lauded for 9-7 and 11-5, while Bowles gets bashed for 10-6. It doesn't add up to me.
 

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Elias all you have to do is ask, if you want more will take me some time but can convert them then upload through facebook like this one:

2009 Week 13 Jets at Bills - Game Highlights

Highlights of the Jets' 19-13 win over the Bills from Toronto, Canada.

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I couldn't find any videos of both offense and defense. This is just Sanchez's play. He really came through during the playoffs. Tanenbaum really built the team the right way then. Solid online and solid surrounding cast. Hopefully we can get back to that level but I feel like Mac neglects the oline.

the downfall began when they thought Sanchez can lead the team but he was and always will be a game manager that needed an all star cast to succeed.


The downfall actually started with Tanny earlier than Sanchez arriving. Vernon Gholston the year prior. He did do a great job building the team, but he failed miserably from 2008 on. So really you're talking about two successful drafts, 2006 and 2007, in consecutive years and terrible drafting from 2008 on.

However, in 2008 he also had a tremendous Free Agency haul. People forget that very important point. Adding Alan Faneca and Damien Woody to an already decent OL with Nick and Brick hitting their primes? That officially launched the OL into the stratosphere. That combination was EXCELLENT. They dominated the LOS. What's even better is that in both 2009 and 2010, when the playoffs began the OL entered the "ZONE". They played so much better than they had during the regular season. They always had that extra gear that they could do that. They regularly established LOS SUPREMACY. The only thing keeping the Jets from winning those games was creating enough offense to win the game while keeping the ball out of the hands of Sanchez as much as possible.

They also got Tony Richardson and Calvin Pace. They also traded for Kris Jenkins. Adding those 5 to an already good base of players made the Jets a SB ready team. Why Mangini sucked so bad in 2008 still amazes me? The Jets should have made the playoffs that season and gone deep. Did he forget how to do his job?

But YES their downfall came when Tanny thrust the Jets into cap trouble and had to cut a lot of their talent base. Not to mention, Tanny hadn't drafted any decent replacements for departing players like Tony Richardson, Damien Woody, Alan Faneca. It's also worth noting that all the while they had this very good team, the Jets still had ZERO depth. They just got tremendously lucking with players that almost always stayed healthy.......
 
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I'd say the last time the Jets were any good, they won 10 games. I don't see how they weren't any good when they went 10-6.

Actually the last time they were any good they won 11 games in the 2010 season. Winning 10 games in 2015 means NOTHING. They never made the playoffs. They beat ONE winning team the entire season. They were the recipient of one of the easiest schedules in NFL history.

You keep on attempting to make the point that the Jets were good in 2015? The difference between the 2009, 2010 teams and 2015 is HUGE. In 2010 the Jets were good enough to win it all. The Jets in 2015 were fakers, pure and simple. If they weren't fakers, they would have beaten Rex and the Buffalo Bills in the last game of the season......
 
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The Jets did beat the Patriots last year. They had a winning record.

And Rex gets lauded for 9-7 and 11-5, while Bowles gets bashed for 10-6. It doesn't add up to me.

It doesn't add up to you because you are blinded by your hatred of Rex Ryan. If it isn't plainly obvious to you by now, that Rex Ryan was a MUCH better HC for the Jets than Todd Bowles has been, then you are simply in denial...........
 
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You can't compare a deep playoff run to a team that didn't make the playoffs. Yes, similar records and the jets had bad luck last year because any other year ten wins gets you in, but, last year's team was badly flawed. Didn't beat a team with a winning record, defense was struggling towards the end of the year.

He just hates Rex. If Rex said the sky is blue today, Sack would argue and scream that the sky was black.........
 

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I think the title of this thread would have been a great song by Carole King.

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Wow. Great find.

EDIT: I had quoted Maine's video of Jets v. Steelers, but somehow it did not make it into my post.
 
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Wow. Great find.

EDIT: I had quoted Maine's video of Jets v. Steelers, but somehow it did not make it into my post.

It's an awesome video isn't it? I have always looked back on that game as one of the best I have ever seen in Jets history. Up until that day, the Jets had NEVER beaten the Steelers at Pitt. The Jets have never beaten the Steelers in Pitt since either.

Schotty of all people actually had some GREAT play calling. A direct snap to the RB. A called roll out for Sanchez. Jason Taylor with that awesome Safety and making the call himself? Brad Smith opened up the game with a 103 yard kickoff return, losing his shoe in the process? No, Rex Ryan had the Jets dialed in at that time.....
 
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I just found it. Actually, it was a 97 yard kickoff return, but still AWESOME. Like the commentator said an ELECTRIC start for the Jets. The Jets were just recovering from a bit of a losing streak at that point as I recall. But it was this game that propelled the Jets into another great playoff run........
 
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Actually the last time they were any good they won 11 games in the 2010 season. Winning 10 games in 2015 means NOTHING. They never made the playoffs. They beat ONE winning team the entire season. They were the recipient of one of the easiest schedules in NFL history.

You keep on attempting to make the point that the Jets were good in 2015? The difference between the 2009, 2010 teams and 2015 is HUGE. In 2010 the Jets were good enough to win it all. The Jets in 2015 were fakers, pure and simple. If they weren't fakers, they would have beaten Rex and the Buffalo Bills in the last game of the season......

So, then, were the 2009 Jets "any good?"
 

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He just hates Rex. If Rex said the sky is blue today, Sack would argue and scream that the sky was black.........

What the hell are you talking about? I like Rex!

It's just that, in my world, everything isn't absolute, black and white. I can like someone and still find fault in something they did. I can dislike someone and still find value in something they did.

I think Rex is a very good guy, an excellent DC, but he has a short shelf life as a HC because his lack of accountability will eventually lead to his players becoming undisciplined.

If that's hate, I am not even sure what the word would be to describe how you feel about Bowles, for a variety of reasons.
 

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Seriously, this drives me CRAZY! If you are going to make a statement about me, you had better DAMN WELL make sure it's accurate. NOBODY else gets to determine who I like and don't like. Sorry, but that post was absolute garbage, and completely disengaged from any facts.
 
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