Always liked that video. Reminded me of New Order's True Faith. I think it was done by the same director.
the last time jets were any good
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Always liked that video. Reminded me of New Order's True Faith. I think it was done by the same director.
Exactly how I feel about Rex. I would add that his bragging started to wear a little thin the last three years, too. He became a punch line and bulletin board material for opposing teams. If you say "we're gonna kick your ass", you'd better do it. Rex looked like a fool after games sometimes. I liked his passion, but his mouth became tiresome.
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I don't think you hate Rex and none of your words you spoke on this board ever showed that you hated him so I agree that that was an inaccurate statement. I just don't see how you can compare Bowles and Rex's 10 win seasons. One was a deep playoff run while the other was a non-playoff season.
Indeed it is. One of the few great moments in Jet history we have to look back on. Why, oh why, could that have not been the AFC Champ game against the Steelers?
Well, my argument is that a playoff berth is dependent on several factors, so it's not always the best barometer. Division strength, schedule, conference wild card situation - some years you get teams get in at .500, other years (like with the Pats when Brady got hurt), you win 11 games and you don't make it. Does that mean those 8-8 winners of weak divisions were better than the 11-win Pats?
Great point Sack.
Cant discredit Bowles for the 10-6 season. We all as fans had a good time in '15.
We felt proud and great on things to come as we didnt have a sense of winning since the '10 season.
As harsh as i've been on Bowles, i thik it was fair to give him a third year as to see what kind of adjustments he is willing to do to showcase improvement with a young team that Mac is supplying him.
This is a rebuilding year. The Jets could very well win 5 games again, or even less, this year. If you think Bowles deserved a third year, he probably will need more than that to complete the rebuild.
doesn't bowles have a 4 year deal?? if so, he's fighting to save his job this season..
you don't let a HC coach his final year of his contract as a lame duck.. that's a formula for disaster..
I don't think a change after the 2017 season is in order, either, at least if it's based on record. It's tough to tell a guy that you're rebuilding the team, getting rid of the aging veterans, and then have his job hinging on record. That's just not fair to Bowles, nor is it good for the continuity of said young players. The barometer this year has to be about player development and growth. Is Leonard Williams a legitimate long-term dominant force on the DL? Do either of the young QBs (or a third who is drafted this year) show any signs of life? How do Enunwa and Anderson handle an increased workload? Do the young LBs solidify the position? What about the CBs, with Revis gone?
From a team perspective, does the team show fight, unlike so many games this past season when they appeared to fold up the tent? Do they get off to at least competitive starts, rather than digging huge holes early? Are they disciplined, cutting down on mental mistakes?
To me, those signs are far more important than record, but I sense that is not how the NY papers will handle it. I think the more intelligent Jets fans will be able to see it that way, and I hope they are patient and prioritize those signs more than wins and losses.
i'm pretty much in lockstep with this post..
seems pretty obvious to me as well, bowles should be judged on player development.. whether or not his team plays with a sense of urgency.. playing disciplined football would be a huge upgrade for bowles because he's been horrible at instilling that his team..
the he only thing i would add is the "inmates simply cannot run the asylum" anymore.. that alone would be a fireable offense in my book..
IMHO, the Jets were a true contender with the Vinny, Curtis, Wayne, Keyshawn, Mo and Cox crew. That was a true contending team IMO because Vinny was a QB ready and able to win a SB. I didn't think those two Sanchez lead teams were SB contenders. Very good and gutsy teams but not SB contenders. I think the Pennington lead teams would have been better then the Sanchez teams, simply because Pennington was a much better QB then Sanchez. If they would kept them together or rebuilt them correctly. Better coaching with those teams also as opposed to the Sanchez teams.
yeah, the '98 jets were the real deal.. parcells had "his guys" both on the field & his staff.. it was a pleasure to watch a jet team that played with such a sense of urgency, passion, mental toughness & wait for it..... discipline!!
the loss in denver was absolutely crushing because we would have smoked the falcons in the super bowl..
Yeah it was a devastating blow. They were a team prime and ready that year. If I'm correct, didn't they beat the Falcons earlier in the season and beat them pretty convincingly?
What hurts almost as bad is the next year most people perjected the Jets to win the whole thing but Vinny gets hurt game one on like the first play of the game. Just our luck!!!
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You have NEVER indicated anything of the sort. And you and I have debated this topic many times. Any time I have made the point that Rex is a much better HC than Toilet (which he is), you have shown open disdain for him? Constantly, defending Toilet when the fact is Toilet will more than likely go down as a miniscule better HC than Rich Kotite. That is an accurate assessment of the fan base.
So what is it, Sack? Do you just like to argue for the sake of arguing, or are you just lying now to support your narrative?
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I didn't have a good time in 2015. Look up my posts prior to the season. I knew the Jets had a cupcake schedule and 10 wins meant nothing to me because I was putting the feat in proper context. Turns out I was right all along.
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The team inexplicably showed up flat? Rex had his faults and I would imagine that game is his own personal largest regret.
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If the GM had done his job and given the HC the talent he needed to do his job, then the bragging would have been irrelevant.
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Look, defending Toilet when you had no earthly LEGITIMATE reason, especially by trying to make the case that Rex was worse, is the definition twisting the facts.
Giving it a bit more thought, perhaps what happened is that Tomlin watched the regular season game tape and made adjustments, a la what Rex did to Belichick after the Pats blew out the Jets.