Woody Johnson: Jets Set a New Course

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Woody on the Radio talking Draft and Direction of the Jets

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Click on the image to get the radio interview... Click on the link and it just brings you to espn..
There is no image just what you wrote.
Espn reported a quote about judging him by progress this season.

I think this means mac and Bowles are safe, woody is letting them build through the draft now. Macs first 2 seasons were to appease woody while drafting guys for the future. Now the draft and free agency are in lock step under mac. That's why revis is gone and Sheldon and Pryor are packing their bags.

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I'm paraphrasing here but essentially Woody said do NOT judge the team in 2017 on wins and losses. Judge them based on the progress of the players. Jets have never tried building the team this way. Woody likes having the organization structured in such a manner that the HC answers directly to Woody. He believes it requires the GM and HC to work together.

in other words, brace yourself for about a 2 or 3 win season. Then they are in prime position to take a top notch QB and OL. They'll be armed with a top 5 draft pick and about 60 to 70 million in cap space. It also gives them all of this season to see Petty or Hack are worth holding on to.
 

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I think that this philosophy is way overdue and is hopefully THE philosophy going forward. For me, it was heartening to hear it from the boss because quite frankly it was him who I viewed as the impediment over the years. Him admitting the error in his ways was music to my ears. What was also interesting was that he never corrected the idea that there was serious lockerroom issues from the 3rd game on. Perhaps paying big money for garbage like last year was too much to stomach. It's going to take being tone deaf and having an iron stomach, but the benefits will far outweigh the pain. Let's see now what we have in MM as talent evaluator and TB and CS as teachers.
 

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Committed to building through the draft and developing young players in-house, Jets CEO Woody Johnson is navigating a new course.

“If you want to go to the promised land, you have to go in a certain direction,” he said Tuesday during an appearance with ESPN New York. “I think this is a direction we have never tried in 17 years that I’ve been involved in with the Jets. We’ve never gone this way.”

A guest on “Hahn, Humpty & Canty,” Johnson stressed his goals for the upcoming season in terms of player development.

“Really the way I want to be judged this year hopefully from the fans’ standpoint is watch how we improve during the year and look at how each individual on the team and see how they’re getting better,” he said. “If they’re getting better, that’s a mark of progress. That’s what we’re looking for.”

Looking back at years past, Johnson acknowledged attempting to find the quick fix via trades and/or through pro free agency.

“I think what we have done over the years is traded picks away and we’ve had too big of an emphasis on free agency and not enough emphasis on developing our own,” he said. “Your own guy you train from day one and that’s going to be a guy that understands what you’re trying to accomplish. I think you’re better off with a homegrown guy.”

Last weekend, GM Mike Maccagnan made five trades in all while stockpiling picks in the process. After starting with seven selections, Maccagnan drafted nine players and added the Cowboys’ 2018 fifth-rounder.

“Well he was just following his board and we got a number of players that were still high on our board even after trading down and getting more picks,” Johnson said. “This was all about numbers this year and maybe next year, too. We need numbers. We have a lot of areas we have to improve in.”

Saying he thought the Draft went well, Johnson added the Jets selected a “couple of great safeties” in Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye. The DB duo along with the team’s other seven selections are expected to be in Florham Park Thursday when players report for rookie minicamp.

“This is not for every team,” Johnson said of the new direction. “But for us, it’s getting our own guys, teaching them our culture and getting them going with the way we want to approach football in New York. This is a different type of deal, so it’s tough. So you have to get the right guy.”
 
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I just hope it works? I'm still floored that Mac managed to do what he did? He actually drafted great when his last two drafts are very suspect to be GARBAGE........
 

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This is the strategy employed by most franchises with long-term success. There are exceptions, such as New England who are extremely active in the FA and trade markets every year, but the Steelers and Packers, for example, have been more dedicated to this mantra.
 
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This is the strategy employed by most franchises with long-term success. There are exceptions, such as New England who are extremely active in the FA and trade markets every year, but the Steelers and Packers, for example, have been more dedicated to this mantra.

Well, that's the kind of success I would love for the Jets to show. I have always looked at the Packers and Steelers as the picture of perfection on how to run a football team. Their drafting almost always keeps them competitive every season. They NEVER reach on picks. They let the good talent come to them. So once again if the Jets can become that, I for one will be a very happy person. But it's got to start with drafting. The Jets have been horrible in drafting forever now. Even Mac's first two drafts are very suspect. This years draft I think is amazing but they still haven't even played a down..........
 

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Well, that's the kind of success I would love for the Jets to show. I have always looked at the Packers and Steelers as the picture of perfection on how to run a football team. Their drafting almost always keeps them competitive every season. They NEVER reach on picks. They let the good talent come to them. So once again if the Jets can become that, I for one will be a very happy person. But it's got to start with drafting. The Jets have been horrible in drafting forever now. Even Mac's first two drafts are very suspect. This years draft I think is amazing but they still haven't even played a down..........

Could this, then, be the defining moment? Is this when it becomes Mac's team, and he is entrusted to build the team as he sees fit?

Last season may be a blessing, because it finally gave the team the opportunity to do this the right way.
 

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Wood is willing to spend money on JETS & he allows and trusts the GM & Coach to make JETS great. I like him as an Owner. But GM & Coaches have made awfull decisions on who to pay & deserves BIG Payday. Wilkerson -Revis not playing up to contracts as EXAMPLES. I hope Jets gets turned around & think GM did ok in Draft & only took to boom bust players in later round at TE/WR one called lazy with big talent & other ACL prone in back to back years. All others I agree with. Next year Drafting a QB is the biggest for Jets on whether Jets have turned the corner on Drafting a GOOD QB.
 

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Wood is willing to spend money on JETS & he allows and trusts the GM & Coach to make JETS great. I like him as an Owner. But GM & Coaches have made awfull decisions on who to pay & deserves BIG Payday. Wilkerson -Revis not playing up to contracts as EXAMPLES. I hope Jets gets turned around & think GM did ok in Draft & only took to boom bust players in later round at TE/WR one called lazy with big talent & other ACL prone in back to back years. All others I agree with. Next year Drafting a QB is the biggest for Jets on whether Jets have turned the corner on Drafting a GOOD QB.

The key is to have a better team surrounding a young QB, and that's what the Jets are doing now. This draft, the right QB wasn't out there, and the team wasn't ready for that QB. Next year could be different.

I agree with you about Woody. He spends on the team, and doesn't intervene nearly as much as many other owners.
 
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Could this, then, be the defining moment? Is this when it becomes Mac's team, and he is entrusted to build the team as he sees fit?

Last season may be a blessing, because it finally gave the team the opportunity to do this the right way.

You have to take a wait and see approach? Right now he looks good, but who's to say next years draft won't look like 2016 all over again? I also believe everybody wants to point the dirty end of the stick at Woody about the process of building the team? Who knows if Mac said to Woody, I think I can do a "competitive rebuild", Mr. Johnson. If you give me the reigns I will make this team SB contenders and we will not have to go through a massive overhaul of the roster?

The point is no one knows who's idea it was to try what they tried the last two seasons. It could have been Mac just as much as it could have been Woody wanting to go that route.

Mac has IMO ONE good draft since he's been here and that is this one. If he can continue to pick value everywhere he picks AND get players that fit the offensive or defensive philosophy, then I'll be sold. Just looking however, Darron Lee was the BPA at #20 last year definitely. But he does NOT appear to fit the defensive philosophy in NY. Bowles likes to run a 3-4 hybrid and Lee appears to be a strictly 4-3 player.

So once again, it's one thing to take BPA. I am fine with that, but they must also fit the strategy that is being implemented..........
 

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You have to take a wait and see approach? Right now he looks good, but who's to say next years draft won't look like 2016 all over again? I also believe everybody wants to point the dirty end of the stick at Woody about the process of building the team? Who knows if Mac said to Woody, I think I can do a "competitive rebuild", Mr. Johnson. If you give me the reigns I will make this team SB contenders and we will not have to go through a massive overhaul of the roster?

The point is no one knows who's idea it was to try what they tried the last two seasons. It could have been Mac just as much as it could have been Woody wanting to go that route.

Mac has IMO ONE good draft since he's been here and that is this one. If he can continue to pick value everywhere he picks AND get players that fit the offensive or defensive philosophy, then I'll be sold. Just looking however, Darron Lee was the BPA at #20 last year definitely. But he does NOT appear to fit the defensive philosophy in NY. Bowles likes to run a 3-4 hybrid and Lee appears to be a strictly 4-3 player.

So once again, it's one thing to take BPA. I am fine with that, but they must also fit the strategy that is being implemented..........

That is certainly a legit argument with Lee. He doesn't have the size to be a 3-4 LB. If anything, his role would be that tweener, between a SS and an LB. The problem is, that is also about the only role Pryor could fill right now, as well.
 

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Woody seems nice enough, but he has owned this team since 2000. In "real" business, no CEO would have lasted 17 years considering the lack of success he has had here. If nothing else, he should have never agreed to the NJ dual stadium plan. We've heard his rhetoric for many years. At this point the only thing that comes out of his mouth is dust.

Sorry for the negativity but all one can hope for at this point is the blind squirrel finding the nut theory. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 53 times, shame on me.

I'm not sure the Jets have been that unsuccessful compared to most other teams in the league. No SBs, but a couple conference title games, a couple division titles, and they haven't had two consecutive losing seasons during the Woody era. In fact, only six of those 17 years have seen losing records.
 

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That is certainly a legit argument with Lee. He doesn't have the size to be a 3-4 LB. If anything, his role would be that tweener, between a SS and an LB. The problem is, that is also about the only role Pryor could fill right now, as well.

If we're talking just about size, he is listed as the same height and 2 lbs heavier than Ryan Shazier and he is considered a pretty good ILB. If you want a statistical comparison here goes:

Shazier year 1: games played - 6, total tackles 36, sacks, forced fumbles and int - 0
2:GP - 12, TT - 87, S - 3.5, ff - 2, INT - 1
3:GP - 13, TT - 87, S - 3.5, FF - 3, INT - 3
Lee year 1: GP - 13, TT - 73, S - 1, FF and INT - 0

I'm not saying anything more than before we call Lee a bust or too small for the position, we should look at some comps for guys who play a similar role. Maybe there are better comparisons for role other than Shazier, but by comparison Lee stacks up pretty well. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do with more experience and a less dysfunctional teams around him.
 
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