Preseason Game Thread: MetLife Bowl

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The 49th anniversary of anything — marriage, business, graduating class — is often worth celebrating, but how about two NFL teams meeting for the 49th consecutive summer? That's the Jets and Giants, the regional rivals and stadium co-tenants who first went at each other on Aug. 17. 1969, at Yale Bowl and thought it was such a good idea that they've done it every August (except once in early September) since.

This year's rivalry renewal buildup doesn't feel as fiery yet as in previous years, with each team tending to different issues in trying to get ready for the 2017 regular season. But we think things will heat up Saturday night sometime around their 7 p.m. ET kickoff at MetLife Stadium. Here are seven points to ponder on this year's meeting between the green and the blue teams:

1. On the Level
It doesn't get much more even than the Jets-Giants rivalry has been over the last nearly half-century. Since 1969, the Jets maintain a 25-22-1 preseason edge on the Giants, but Big Blue has held the upper hand in the regular season, 8-5. Add them together and the teams are 30-30-1. And add all the points the sides have rung up in those games and the Jets have outscored the Giants by a field goal and a safety, 1,225 points to 1,220.

2. Road to Victory?
The evenness of the rivalry has gotten stood on its head since 2010, when the teams first opened MetLife Stadium (nee New Meadowlands Stadium) to NFL football. The Jets and Giants have played each other nine times at their new home — seven times in the preseason, twice in the regular season — and the home game has lost all nine times. How is that possible? The Jets are 0-5 as the home side, the Giants 0-4, and the average score in those games is Away 26, Home 17. And Saturday it's the Giants' turn to host.

3. Reunited and It Feels So Good
However the Jets' QB rotation shakes out — head coach Todd Bowles again has kept his plans to himself — the signalcallers should benefit from the offense's 1-2 punch, as Matt Forté and Bilal Powell, both back from injuries, are expected to be reunited for the first time in a game since last Dec. 17 vs. Miami. Forté may not play much, said Bowles, but coordinator John Morton still might want to get an inkling, in this summer dress rehearsal, of what Forté-Powell, who combined to average 97 yards a game together last year, can provide to his unit.

4. Eli's Coming
There's no denying the accomplishments of Giants QB Eli Manning. But when it comes to this game, the Jets have given Eli as good as they've gotten. In the preseason, Manning's played 12 games (starting the last 11) with three TD passes to nine INTs and a 56.6 rating and has been sacked 12 times. The Giants' record in those dozen games: 5-7. The Jets' pass rush, one of the highlights of the attack so far with 11 sacks, will want to fine-tune some things for sure. "As a starting defense, we're not where we want to be," said DL Sheldon Richardson, who got his first pro sack by taking down Eli in the 2013 preseason, "but we're not too far off."

5. Tight Schedule
The tight end may return to the Jets offense this season, but when is another matter. Austin Seferian-Jenkins will play vs. the Giants but will sit out a two-game suspension to start the regular season. Rookie Jordan Leggett (foot) won't play Saturday, nor will first-year man Jason Vander Laan(shoulder). That leaves a depth chart of Eric Tomlinson, Chris Gragg (signed July 28) and rookie Brandon Barnes (signed Wednesday). TE is a work in progress.



6. DBs vs. WRs
Bowles says in his secondary, "there's definitely competition there. Maybe not at the safety spot, but at the corner spot, there's competition." In theory that includes veteran Morris Claiborne (shoulder), who will be a gametime decision. But the Green & White may or may not face two Giants wideouts they're familiar with for different reasons. Odell Beckham Jr. suffered the ankle sprain heard 'round the NFL Monday night and ex-Jet Brandon Marshall injured his shoulder also against the Browns. Thursday, coach Ben McAdoo said it was "too early" to rule either out vs. the Jets.

7. Crossover Appeal
A few former Jets are viewing this summer series from Big Blue's locker room and sideline at MetLife. NT Damon Harrison got to the Giants a year ago. This offseason Marshall and QB Geno Smith made the move. K Mike Nugent is trying to close the circle on his NFL career with the Giants after kicking for the Jets from 2005-08. On the Jets, LB Spencer Paysinger played for the Jints from 2011-14 and WR Myles Whiteappeared in 12 games for Big Blue in '15.
 

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This game and this season is going to be an embarrassment of riches. Only chance of a decent LOSE and I do mean lose is if the oline and QB play is decent. Who might that QB be, we don't know but I'm still holding out hope that it will be Hack. This season may be worse then the Kotite 1-15 one, if the oline and QB play is as bad as it seems it's going to be.
 

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This game and this season is going to be an embarrassment of riches. Only chance of a decent LOSE and I do mean lose is if the oline and QB play is decent. Who might that QB be, we don't know but I'm still holding out hope that it will be Hack. This season may be worse then the Kotite 1-15 one, if the oline and QB play is as bad as it seems it's going to be.

Being the worst in the league is necessary for the future.
 

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Being the worst in the league is necessary for the future.
I agree, it's just truly unfortunate it has to be this way. I mean think about it, they draft Hack in the second round last year. When Dak and Kessler were still there and waiting. He sits the entire season and still appears to not be ready or just a bust period. The whole youth movement thing is great and well needed and years overdue. So the team having a losing season is okay for the future of building correctly. One or two major issues, we all know it starts at the oline and QB spots. That is where we are the worst at.

If we atleast were decent at those spots with Hack being the guy, they could win 4-6 games and we can see it coming together. We would see there isn't a need to draft a QB. We could continue to build the oline and/or offensive skilled positions. Now we'll be starting from scratch pretty much. Besides that, this will be a very tuff season to watch and stomach. If we as Jets fans can actually do it. Atleast with a decent oline and Hack being ready, they will still lose but the games would be somewhat competitive. Just get ready to see a whole lot of 35-3 and 40-10 type games. With all 3 QBs.
 
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I won't be wasting my time with a team that doesn't compete. If they bust their ass and make progress every game then I will have interest. If not, I will stay away until they do.
 

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I won't be wasting my time with a team that doesn't compete. If they bust their ass and make progress every game then I will have interest. If not, I will stay away until they do.
Lol, makes sense but I just don't how with the 3 QBs we have. I'm truly hoping Hack proves me wrong!!!
 

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Lol, makes sense but I just don't how with the 3 QBs we have. I'm truly hoping Hack proves me wrong!!!

Then just enjoy your Sunday's with something else and hope they don't screw it up. And I still think Petty is the better option. Hack doesn't seem ready. Petty may not be either, but I would start him week 1 and when he sucks then start Hack and hope he has something.
 
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Well so far the Jets can't even complete a pass
give up a safety
crossing patterns eat up this secondary
only good so far ,if you can call it that , is a " little "QB pressure
 

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Hack has led two scoring drives this game...for the other team
 

Bigmoe

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Hack has led two scoring drives this game...for the other team

Terrible

i can see this team quitting before Labor Day
and it's a rebuild
joke. It's actually embarrassing
 
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jets82

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I'm not even watching the game but what did I tell you all. This year is going to be embarrassing to the highest degree and that is simply because our online and a QBs suck to the highest degree. If they were at least average, yes we would still be losing and win no more than five games, MAX and that's wishful thinking. However, they could at least compete. So say hello to 0-16 and being the worst football team in the history of the NFL. No matter who the starting quarterback(s) is this year and say hello to Sam Donald or Josh Allen.

Note: no way in hell Josh McCown makes it through 3 to 5 games without getting injured. Hack and/or Petty will be in a lot sooner than we all think and the coaches won't have a choice in that.
 
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jetgreen13

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petty playing exclusively against 2nd & 3rd string guys & then named the starter??

that's actually ass backward enough to happen in coach bowles' universe..

not that i believe it happens though..

all that said, petty has practiced & played well..
 

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I know it matters who he has played against, but he has command of the offense and some chemistry with some young WR's. Petty better start no matter who he played against.
 
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