A Brick replacement?

lounap23

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If Jets are starting to look at left tackles, you have to think they are considering cutting D’Brick Ferguson and his $14 million cap number

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The #Jets are hosting #Steelers LT Kelvin Beachum on a visit soon, source said. Pittsburgh is hoping to get him back, but some competition.

I was just about to post this as well... Younger, as good if not better going up and not down on his peak meter..... And in all likely hood gonna be much cheaper... I am all for it.
 

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I was just about to post this as well... Younger, as good if not better going up and not down on his peak meter..... And in all likely hood gonna be much cheaper... I am all for it.

i don't know much about him. I did read that he is coming off a torn acl though. I'm not too concerned about that. I like Brick but he needs to take a pay cut.

Kelvin Beachum - T - Steelers

Free agent LT Kelvin Beachum will visit the Jets soon.
The Ravens are also known to have interest, though there's no meeting scheduled as of now. New York's interest in Beachum suggests the Jets could be ready to move on from D'Brickashaw Ferguson and his bloated salary. The Steelers were probably hoping to get Beachum back at a reduced cost after his ACL tear, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.
 

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I'd hate to see Brick go, but if he won't restructure or take a paycut, I'd be alright with Beachum. He has been a nice find for the Steelers after getting drafted in the 7th round. Not worried about the injury.
 

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I'd hate to see Brick go, but if he won't restructure or take a paycut, I'd be alright with Beachum. He has been a nice find for the Steelers after getting drafted in the 7th round. Not worried about the injury.
i don't see the jets taking a 14 million dollar cap hit over your JFU namesake.....
 

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Is that how much it would be if he's cut?
just looked up ferguson's '16 contract details..

apparently he's scheduled to make 8.6 million.. that's clearly not going to happen but here's what i found that was interesting.. he would recoup just over 3 million with a "restructuring bonus" if he does rework his deal.. how/why hasn't this happened yet?? because if cut, ferguson would be a 14 million dollar cap hit.. so that ain't happening either..

found these numbers at spotrac.. how accurate they are, i have no idea..
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lounap23

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Is that how much it would be if he's cut?

Absolutely not!! It's a $million cap hit but $9Million saved.... So if they sign the other guy it has to be for less than $9 million for it to be worthwhile and get some cap space....If they can sign him for $5 million then they are creating $4 Million in cap space.....make sense?

Go to OVerthecap.com best place for any cap info for every team.
 

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i don't see the jets taking a 14 million dollar cap hit over your JFU namesake.....

Is that how much it would be if he's cut?

being Brick is under contract for two years his dead loss of $5 Million can be split between 2016 & 2017 cap charge... So lets they split we save $11.5 Million this year by releasing him and ridding $11.8 Million in 2017...

the Jets could simply offer to pay out his dead loss in one sum, freeing $9 Million this year and opening cap space of $14.3 Million for next year...
 

jetgreen13

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being Brick is under contract for two years his dead loss of $5 Million can be split between 2016 & 2017 cap charge... So lets they split we save $11.5 Million this year by releasing him and ridding $11.8 Million in 2017...

the Jets could simply offer to pay out his dead loss in one sum, freeing $9 Million this year and opening cap space of $14.3 Million for next year...
got it..

so it would seem unless ferguson restructures his contract, he will be replaced & cut..
 

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got it..

so it would seem unless ferguson restructures his contract, he will be replaced & cut..

pretty much...

since they have done nothing could mean they are shopping him on the trade block... (just speculating)
 

gmf1369

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Any reason why Brick would be against restructuring?

who says it is Brick that doesn't want to restructure?

I think asking him to restructure when or if they sign someone to replace him could be in the cards especially if they want to move him from left to right tackle then again the speculation they would be comfortable with Qvale replacing Breno so who knows...

have to think maybe they try to kick him inside then move Carpenter from left to right? I don't know my brain hurts thinking about this...
 

mykcuz

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who says it is Brick that doesn't want to restructure?

I think asking him to restructure when or if they sign someone to replace him could be in the cards especially if they want to move him from left to right tackle then again the speculation they would be comfortable with Qvale replacing Breno so who knows...

have to think maybe they try to kick him inside then move Carpenter from left to right? I don't know my brain hurts thinking about this...
You know, at first I thought it was weird not clearing the cap room entering fa, but now I think it might be a good leverage play to sign cheaper contacts. What's Fitz going to say? Take bricks money and give it to me, OK, go ask brick for 7 million Fitz, tell us what he says.

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NYJETSDAN16

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I like D'brick alot, but that $14mil is just too much for a declining player.

Atleast chop it to $9. Mac is really donig a great job these past couple of days. He's filling up the holes and not overspending.

Plus, it would help Fitz being locked up for 2 years if Fergeson takes the cut.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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I like D'brick alot, but that $14mil is just too much for a declining player.

Atleast chop it to $9. Mac is really donig a great job these past couple of days. He's filling up the holes and not overspending.

Plus, it would help Fitz being locked up for 2 years if Fergeson takes the cut.

You're not going to get any argument that Brick should take one for the team. But with Beachum likely moving on (left NJ for another visit today) and not a lot of OT's capable of filling in at a cheaper price, what is Macc supposed to do? Release a good LT and start Qvale?

This is a big decision for Maccagnan. There's no easy answer. Brick doesn't deserve 14 million, but he's got Macc by the balls.
 

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There are a couple of capable UFA LTs - Penn, & Smith from CIN, come to mind.
Ferguson is NOT irreplaceable, not by a long shot and both of those guys will be a significant cap savings.
HYATT™ would go so far as to say BOTH Penn & Smith could be signed for Ferguson's $14M and still leave some cap room to sign another interior lineman worthy of being a backup. (Wisniewski, perhaps.)

As for the QB stockpiling issue, you NEVER stop acquiring and developing QBs, and you spend whatever picks you have to, to keep the pipeline filled.
Some like Petty, HYATT™ believes he is a career backup.
The difference between QBs taken late in Rd 1 and even later in the draft is not huge, but it is definitely a step down from QBs who get drafted in the top half of Rd 1.

The fact that guys like Wilson, Kaepernick, Cousins, & other late-rounders were taken late was much more a failure of the draft talent evaluators being bad at their jobs than it was those QBs somehow overproducing for their draft slot.
Rather than put individual QBs into a draft round, evaluators should group them by tiers.
This year doesn't have a Top-tier like Winston/Mariota, Luck/RGIII or Eli/Ben/Rivers, but all of the top 5 or 6 are still better prospects than anything that would have been labeled as Tier 2 in the past couple of drafts.
Cook is rightly a Tier 2 prospect, but he is also at the very top of that tier and worthy of a mid-to-late Rd 1 pick this year since there are no other Tier 1 candidates - and he is assuredly a better prospect than Petty was.
HYATT™ would have NO trouble turning the team over to Cook as a rookie, but would prefer to see him get 1 or 2 years behind FitzMagic.

Wentz will also probably develop into as really good NFL QB - in about 3 or 4 years.
 
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