A Message to the Lurkers

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Dunnie

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A Message to the Lurkers

I love seeing the old names from JI here ... Hope this place grows strong. we'll see if we get KRL updates from camp.
 

Elias

The Invisible Man
Big Fish
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
I love seeing the old names from JI here ... Hope this place grows strong. we'll see if we get KRL updates from camp.

Welcome Dunnie. Me too. I think KRL is giving updates at scout for the premium members.

Barf! I wish he can join here.
 
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sg3

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Congrats to the Scout JI forum on their first post of the day today at 10:31 AM.

To save all NYJF members from rushing headlong over there together to read it and possibly overloading and crashing their server, I thought I would just repost it here...

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Posted: Today 10:31 AM
Kiper's WR Tiers
As I was taking in the NFL combine last week, I found myself flashing back to a couple of other draft classes, because of how the wide receivers were grouped on my board.
In 1985, I had very close grades on a trio of wideouts who turned into really good players. Al Toon, Eddie Brown and the great Jerry Rice all went within six picks of one another, and I had them pretty closely grouped on my draft board. Rice, of course, became a star (even after a rookie season that had some critics already applying the "bust" label), and while his star surpassed the rest, all three were successful.
It happened again three years later. In 1988, I had similar grades on the trio of Tim Brown, Sterling Sharpe and Michael Irvin. And just as it happened in 1985, those three went within six picks of each other, and again all three had careers to be proud of.
If we can someday look at the top three wide receivers in this class and say they accomplished anything close to what the top three in 1985 or 1988 did, I think it would be pretty remarkable. But I bring up those classes because it's again a closely grouped trio at the top.
Beyond them I list 37 other wide receivers to watch for the 2015 NFL draft. It's yet another deep group.

The elite trio

Should go in top-10 range, can be impact NFL players early on.

Amari Cooper: There really isn't a flaw in Cooper's game at this point, and running a 4.42 40 at the combine eases any long-speed concerns. I had Cooper as my No. 1 WR even with some questions as to whether he was in the same "athlete" class as some other WRs in this class, but the distance between him and even the athletic freaks is almost negligible now. He caught 84 more passes than the next-closest Bama player. Think about that.

Kevin White: White is probably closer to Cooper on most boards than he was heading into Indy. He ran 4.35 with a 1.52 10-yard split, so there's no question about the quick-twitch explosiveness now. He has star potential, especially if he continues to improve.

DeVante Parker: He's A.J. Green Lite -- but not that light. Given his big catch radius and ability to beat defenders at the catch point (see: arms longer than 33 inches), running 4.45 at 6-foot-2 and 209 pounds puts him in a top class of athlete as well. A difference-maker and potential No. 1 receiver.


Also in Round 1 mix

Any of these guys could land in Round 1 and have a chance to help a team soon.
Devin Smith: He didn't measure as big as he plays, at 6-foot and under 200 pounds, but Smith is plenty fast (4.42) and has down-the-field credentials, where he flat dominated at the catch point last season. If you ran a reel for Smith's best catches, you'd assume he was 6-3.
Dorial Green-Beckham: Let's be clear here: Yes, DGB has the body type of Calvin Johnson, at 6-5 and 237 pounds. But let's remember Megatron ran a 4.35 with a 1.52 10-yard split at 6-5 and 239 pounds. Johnson also had a 42.5-inch vertical. DGB is plenty athletic, with a 4.49 40 time and a 33.5-inch vertical. But he also has off-field questions to answer. Still, the size and skill set (while raw) is tantalizing.
Breshad Perriman: We won't see Perriman run until his pro day, but at 6-2 and 212 pounds, on the tape you see a sure-handed receiver who morphs into a running back with the ball in his hands. He's been a favorite of mine who I feel is a first-round talent.
Phillip Dorsett: Having 4.33 speed can move you up on a lot of boards, but Dorsett isn't just a track star -- he's a capable receiver and can help a team out immediately. A star at the Senior Bowl, he's now clearly in the Round 1 mix.
Jaelen Strong: Another player who saw himself shrink in Indy, Strong measured under 6-3 after long being listed taller than that. Still, he's a force down the field and on contested balls, and the 4.44 speed is really good for a physical matchup threat who will play near 220 pounds.
Devin Funchess: He's 6-4 and 232 pounds and has been listed with the tight ends for a while, but Funchess is really just a size matchup wide receiver, and was used in that way by Michigan. He could land in Round 2 but is certainly going to be in the discussion for a few teams in Round 1. It just depends on how the board lines up.


Likely Day 2 impact talent

More likely to land in Rounds 2 and 3, these guys have skills that could help teams soon.

Nelson Agholor: Match 4.42 speed with a dependable skill set as a route-runner and mostly reliable hands and you have a high-floor player if he's working with a decent QB.
Sammie Coates: There was actually some disappointment in Coates' 4.43 40 time, which tells you about how good an athlete he is. A running back with the ball in his hands, he's gotten better down the field.
Tre McBride: He's moved up the board since the end of the season, with 4.41 speed not hurting his cause. He's now a Day 2 pick.
Antwan Goodley: There's a chance he could drop because the Baylor system helps inflate WRs' numbers, and he simply isn't as big as he plays, but Goodley is in this range.
Tyler Lockett: He ate up some good corners, and his 1.56 10-yard split showed off his quickness. If there's a concern, it's his small hands. A slot pick.
Stefon Diggs: If you see his best tape, you see a potential first-rounder. But Diggs has been dogged by injuries over his time at Maryland. But teams will see that good tape, and he could land here.
Chris Conley: Yes, he moves up some on his fantastic 40 (4.35) and crazy-good vertical (45 inches), but Conley did produce as well, with 91 receptions over the last three seasons.
Rashad Greene: A favorite of Jameis Winston, Greene is lean, but productive and willing to make plays in traffic. He didn't hurt himself in Indy.


Worth a value bet

Offering some skills that can make them good NFL players, these guys will get drafted on Day 3.
Jamison Crowder: Didn't make a splash in Indy, but a potentially reliable slot option.
Titus Davis: The Central Michigan star will hope to follow in Antonio Brown's big shoes.
Dezmin Lewis: At nearly 6-4 he showed he belonged in Indy and at the Senior Bowl from a physical standpoint.
Vince Mayle: Although he has good size and great production, plus strong hands, Mayle ran poorly in Indy and lost some money.
Deontay Greenberry: He had 154 catches over the last two seasons, and good size will have him on some boards. His pro day is crucial.
Ty Montgomery: Offers versatility because he's a returner and will also take handoffs if you want. The size (221 pounds) is there.
Devante Davis: Has good size (nearly 6-3 and 220 pounds) and can go up and get it. This is a classic case of how there's so much depth in terms of size now.
JJ Nelson: Run 4.28 and you're going to land on a roster. He can start in the return game.
Tony Lippett: Has proven credentials in big games and good length; he simply lacks top-line speed. Will also play CB in a pinch.
Mario Alford: Another guy who will be disappointed with a mere 4.43. He plays fast and is lightning with the ball in his hands.
Da'Ron Brown: A productive sleeper out of the MAC.


More names to watch

Could be drafted, could be added the moment the draft ends, could move up between now and then.
Donatella Luckett, Harding
DeAndrew White, Alabama
Rannell Hall, Central Florida
Deon Long, Maryland
Matt Miller, Boise State
Jordan Taylor, Rice
Ezell Ruffin, San Diego State
DeAndre Smelter, Georgia Tech
Darren Waller, Georgia Tech
Malcome Kennedy, Texas A&M
Josh Harper, Fresno State
Kaelin Clay, Utah
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...-another-loaded-wr-draft-class-2015-nfl-draft

I know Kiper isn't the best evaluator, but honestly I wouldn't complain if we got any of the top 3 with pick number six
 

TurboJet

Day 1 Prospect
Jet Fanatics
Hello fellow NY Jet Fanatics.

Just wanted to introduce myself. I’ve been one of the “lurkers” here for a while and decided to finally join the conversation.

After viewing numerous Jet forums I decided this one was far superior to the others.
Not just the content of the discussions but the overall civility of the site and how its members treat each other.
The info flow is also great and this forum is very well moderated.

I used to belong to a now extinct Jet forum years ago (as the MonkeyMan) and recognize many of the original posters from the old forum.
A little about myself – Been a Jet fan since I could remember. My Dad is a huge fan and his favorite player was Joe Namath thus my allegiance. I played Safety (and all the special teams) throughout high school so I have a “soft” spot for Defense.

Looking forward to contributing to the discussions and reading all your opinions regarding everything NY Jets (and NFL related)..
J-E-T-S Jets, Jets, Jets !!!

TurboJet
 

Elias

The Invisible Man
Big Fish
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
Hello fellow NY Jet Fanatics.

Just wanted to introduce myself. I’ve been one of the “lurkers” here for a while and decided to finally join the conversation.

After viewing numerous Jet forums I decided this one was far superior to the others.
Not just the content of the discussions but the overall civility of the site and how its members treat each other.
The info flow is also great and this forum is very well moderated.

I used to belong to a now extinct Jet forum years ago (as the MonkeyMan) and recognize many of the original posters from the old forum.
A little about myself – Been a Jet fan since I could remember. My Dad is a huge fan and his favorite player was Joe Namath thus my allegiance. I played Safety (and all the special teams) throughout high school so I have a “soft” spot for Defense.

Looking forward to contributing to the discussions and reading all your opinions regarding everything NY Jets (and NFL related)..
J-E-T-S Jets, Jets, Jets !!!

TurboJet

Thank you for joining Turbo. Look forward to reading your posts.
 

Oraelo

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Hello guys,
Was a sometimes poster/always lurker over at scout. All the BS back and forth over at scout between the old and new guard drove me away (not upset to see it a ghost town now). Tried a few other places and wasn't too happy with any of them for various reasons. Then I logged on here and saw lots of familiar names. Feels like a homecoming is sorts. I probably won't say much will be reading about our favorite team like always.
Good to read you all again. Super excited about the changes so far this season, and am looking forward to another great year cheering our Boys on.
Oraelo (K.C.)
 

Elias

The Invisible Man
Big Fish
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
Hello guys,
Was a sometimes poster/always lurker over at scout. All the BS back and forth over at scout between the old and new guard drove me away (not upset to see it a ghost town now). Tried a few other places and wasn't too happy with any of them for various reasons. Then I logged on here and saw lots of familiar names. Feels like a homecoming is sorts. I probably won't say much will be reading about our favorite team like always.
Good to read you all again. Super excited about the changes so far this season, and am looking forward to another great year cheering our Boys on.
Oraelo (K.C.)

Welcome! Glad you made it over. I am excited too. Can't wait until tomorrow, 4pm!
 
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flgreen

Guest
Hello guys,
Was a sometimes poster/always lurker over at scout. All the BS back and forth over at scout between the old and new guard drove me away (not upset to see it a ghost town now). Tried a few other places and wasn't too happy with any of them for various reasons. Then I logged on here and saw lots of familiar names. Feels like a homecoming is sorts. I probably won't say much will be reading about our favorite team like always.
Good to read you all again. Super excited about the changes so far this season, and am looking forward to another great year cheering our Boys on.
Oraelo (K.C.)

Welcome
 

Football51

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Elias, Renegade, and Machina, I saw this posted by long time Scout member "Seaver" on the board that Machina created after the Scout fiasco. Can anyone help him?



"I get blocked from that site at work - and that's where the vast majority of my posts are done....soooooo it doesn't look good for me."
 

Elias

The Invisible Man
Big Fish
Jet Fanatics
Jets Global
Elias, Renegade, and Machina, I saw this posted by long time Scout member "Seaver" on the board that Machina created after the Scout fiasco. Can anyone help him?



"I get blocked from that site at work - and that's where the vast majority of my posts are done....soooooo it doesn't look good for me."

Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do. His job blocks the site based off a keyword in the URL I'm assuming. The only advice I can give him is maybe speak to his IT department and tell them to put this site on the safe list but I highly doubt he will want to do that. I will continue searching for a solution but I am not so sure I will find one.
 
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ucrenegade

Guest
Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do. His job blocks the site based off a keyword in the URL I'm assuming. The only advice I can give him is maybe speak to his IT department and tell them to put this site on the safe list but I highly doubt he will want to do that. I will continue searching for a solution but I am not so sure I will find one.

What about using a url shorter service will that work
 

The Wicker Man

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Hello guys,
Was a sometimes poster/always lurker over at scout. All the BS back and forth over at scout between the old and new guard drove me away (not upset to see it a ghost town now). Tried a few other places and wasn't too happy with any of them for various reasons. Then I logged on here and saw lots of familiar names. Feels like a homecoming is sorts. I probably won't say much will be reading about our favorite team like always.
Good to read you all again. Super excited about the changes so far this season, and am looking forward to another great year cheering our Boys on.
Oraelo (K.C.)

Hey O! Glad to see you made it over! (Formally Savatage)
 

Green73

Prospect
Jet Fanatics
I've been an avid reader / lurker but have only posted 3 or 4 times over the years under greenwhite73 on the old scout forum....
Then the merger happened (gave it a chance) Bummer!

I've bled green and white since '79 and the last dozen or so years (lost track) I'd been a daily lurker on that site, the passionate debates between you all, the entertainment, the insight of the posters... Became part of my JETS fanaticism. Then nothing. Emptiness. Stagnation.

Then a couple of weeks ago I visited JI or what ever it's called now and one of the old posters, machina, nick, forgot who but thank you, posted a Link to this site and ... Bam! Rebirth! I'm happy again.

The last few days have been exciting...
Marshall, Revis!

Looking forward to the lurking and maybe I'll post one or two hear and there.
Again, thank you.
 

NickSINYC

Veteran
Jet Fanatics
I've been an avid reader / lurker but have only posted 3 or 4 times over the years under greenwhite73 on the old scout forum....
Then the merger happened (gave it a chance) Bummer!

I've bled green and white since '79 and the last dozen or so years (lost track) I'd been a daily lurker on that site, the passionate debates between you all, the entertainment, the insight of the posters... Became part of my JETS fanaticism. Then nothing. Emptiness. Stagnation.

Then a couple of weeks ago I visited JI or what ever it's called now and one of the old posters, machina, nick, forgot who but thank you, posted a Link to this site and ... Bam! Rebirth! I'm happy again.

The last few days have been exciting...
Marshall, Revis!

Looking forward to the lurking and maybe I'll post one or two hear and there.
Again, thank you.

Welcome join in the fun and let us know whats on your mind
 
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