Attention Sheldon Richardson: DO NOT Accept Your Suspension!!

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NickSINYC

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What do you mean by this? I know you asked us not to reply but I just felt the need to ask here.
My last remark on the subject and I am done. I preferred to not even write this. It feels like most of the nonsense I have read in this thread was posted by decade old people and not someone close to six like myself. JMO answer or don't but i'm done in this thread.
 

Green Jets & Ham

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That this thread is ridiculous. Race is a touchy subject and whenever it gets thrown in the mix with the sport we love, it brings a bad taste to people's mouths. I get what Ham is saying but i pray that the Jets/Sheldon don't take this approach. I get it, throw enough crap on the wall and something will stick.
Thats the point, its supposed to be ridiculous, the more ridiculous the better, because ridiculous works. Thats what we learned from the Pats and Pats fans over the past six months, manufactured outrage + ridiculous accusations = winning.

The Patriots weren't punished for going scorched earth, in the end they were rewarded for it.
 

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Thats the point, its supposed to be ridiculous, the more ridiculous the better, because ridiculous works. Thats what we learned from the Patriots and their fans over the past six months, manufactured outrage + ridiculous accusations = winning.

Yea, it's fine. The football fans other than pats fans got shafted. I'm honestly over it. I originally wanted a
Brady suspended but to be the best, you have to beat the best. We want no handouts.
 

jets82

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That this thread is ridiculous. Race is a touchy subject and whenever it gets thrown in the mix with the sport we love, it brings a bad taste to people's mouths. I get what Ham is saying but i pray that the Jets/Sheldon don't take this approach. I get it, throw enough crap on the wall and something will stick.
I see, if this is where Nick was coming from I understand what you both are saying. Race still exist in this world. Some for the good but majority for the bad, in its own suttle ways. The NFL as a whole, meaning the owners and the commissioner is all about the money. Dont ever mistaken that. They could care less about the image whether its black or white. They do what they can to create the mirage they care when its really all about keeping the money flowing in their pockets.

As far as you guys arguing for Shelton's suspensions and to fight it, whatever your views are or your argument may be might be irrelevant. Shelton committed a crime and admitted he did it. Brady committed no crime, so the Pats or Brady can fight that fight. Sheldon's seems to be more cut a dry to me of guilt on multiple charges on two separate occasions and having to serve his punishment.
 

Elias

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I see, if this is where Nick was coming from I understand what you both are saying. Race still exist in this world. Some for the good but majority for the bad, in its own suttle ways. The NFL as a whole, meaning the owners and the commissioner is all about the money. Dont ever mistaken that. They could care less about the image whether its black or white. They do what they can to create the mirage they care when its really all about keeping the money flowing in their pockets.

As far as you guys arguing for Shelton's suspensions and to fight it, whatever your views are or your argument may be might be irrelevant. Shelton committed a crime and admitted he did it. Brady committed no crime, so the Pats or Brady can fight that fight. Sheldon's seems to be more cut a dry to me of guilt on multiple charges on two separate occasions and having to serve his punishment.

No argument from me here
 

Green Jets & Ham

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As far as you guys arguing for Shelton's suspensions and to fight it, whatever your views are or your argument may be might be irrelevant. Shelton committed a crime and admitted he did it. Brady committed no crime, so the Pats or Brady can fight that fight. Sheldon's seems to be more cut a dry to me of guilt on multiple charges on two separate occasions and having to serve his punishment.
Really 82, do you really believe Brady was not guilty of conspiring to deflate those balls?
 

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Elias, what Brady did was far worse than smoking weed from the NFL's perspective.

The most important thing for any sports league is that their games are on the up and up, thats why you get the death sentence in most professional sports leagues if you get caught gambling, banned for life, a sports leagues equivalent of the death sentence, and yet its entirely legal for you & me to go to Vegas or get an online account and bet on football games.
 

jets82

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Really 82, do you really believe Brady was not guilty of conspiring to deflate those balls?
I didn't say I didn't believe he conspired in deflating the balls or that he know of them doing it period. I believe he is guilty but he committed no crime in doing it. I've said this before on other post, this isnt steriods or other performance enhancing drugs. This isn't players gambling on the games or a player committing crimes in the streets. IMHO, this was purely gamesmanship that the Pats always seem to be good enough to get away with.

Maybe we and the rest of the league should learn to perfect it. If you can't beat them, fuck it join them. This to me was players gaining a competitor edge on the field, in which has been happening in the NFL and just about every other sport since the existence of the sport itself. It is what it is and this isnt a morale or image issue for the NFL IMO. So it never should even gone this far. It was all gamesmanship to me and the rest of us just need to learn how to beat the Pats at their own game.
 

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82, correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to mischaracterize your words, but if I'm reading you correctly, your position is that Brady shouldn't have been punished for cheating in the first place, its up to the other teams to cheat better than the Patriots, and if they don't, they have only themselves to blame if the Pats have a competitive advantage?

I'm not criticizing you if thats your opinion, but if thats gonna be the standard, that its basically a free for all, anything goes, whoever cheats the best, to the victor goes the spoils, then teams need to know that in advance, everyone needs to know that its anything goes, so you don't have some team, like the Patriots, cheating with impunity, and others trying to obey rules they don't need to obey, which puts them at a disadvantage.

I'm okay with anything goes, just so long as it applies across the board and everyone knows its anything goes.
 

jets82

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82, correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to mischaracterize your words, but if I'm reading you correctly, your position is that Brady shouldn't have been punished for cheating in the first place, its up to the other teams to cheat better than the Patriots, and if they don't, they have only themselves to blame if the Pats have a competitive advantage?

I'm not criticizing you if thats your opinion, but if thats gonna be the standard, that its basically a free for all, anything goes, whoever cheats the best, to the victor goes the spoils, then teams need to know that in advance, everyone needs to know that its anything goes, so you don't have some team, like the Patriots, cheating with impunity, and others trying to obey rules they don't need to obey, which puts them at a disadvantage.

I'm okay with anything goes, just so long as it applies across the board and everyone knows its anything goes.
Yes I am. If its gamesmanship then it is what it is. Let's not get ridiculous with this but lets get real here, players have been cheating or found competitive edges for decades now. From altering their jerseys to putting stick em on their hands to players holding each other to defensive players faking injuries for a breather without calling a timeout and jumping at offensive players to make them move for the false start penalties. This is all sportsmanship to me and so was deflating the damn balls. You have QBs like A. Rodgers who like more air in the balls then the NFL standard. Should that be considered cheating also?
 

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Yes I am. If its gamesmanship then it is what it is. Let's not get ridiculous with this but lets get real here, players have been cheating or found competitive edges for decades now. From altering their jerseys to putting stick em on their hands to players holding each other to defensive players faking injuries for a breather without calling a timeout and jumping at offensive players to make them move for the false start penalties. This is all sportsmanship to me and so was deflating the damn balls. You have QBs like A. Rodgers who like more air in the balls then the NFL standard. Should that be considered cheating also?
Okay, thats one way to look at it and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I appreciate that you have the guts to stand by it. I think there's a difference between gamesmanship on the field and cheating by manipulating the rules in preparation for games and off the field, like taking balls that have already been measured by the league into a mens room and deflating them, that too me crosses the line and its very different than the gamesmanship that happens on the field.
 

jets82

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Okay, thats one way to look at it and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I appreciate that you have the guts to stand by it. I think there's a difference between gamesmanship on the field and cheating by manipulating the rules in preparation for games and off the field, like taking balls that have already been measured by the league into a mens room and deflating them, that too me crosses the line and its very different than the gamesmanship that happens on the field.
I can respect that and the deflating of balls after the fact is borderline to me but I'm still ok with it. To me crossing the line is the Pats taping the Jets practices or the Saints and bounty gate for example. Also the Falcons amping up crowd noise in their stadium. That to me has gone to far. But if A. Rodgers can add more air to his balls and it isn't an issue then why can't Brady deflate his?
 

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Yeah..... I couldn't imagine disputing a failed drug test. How could you possibly win??? Its like crashing your car into a police station....blowing 3.0 on the drunk meter.... then pleading not guilty????
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Its gonna be awfully hard for conservatives (and I am one) to argue that white privilege doesn't exist, that its all a fantasy of the left, when you see Tom Brady, GUILTY AS SIN, skating on a technicality, while scores of black players have had their suspensions stick for far lesser crimes. I ask you, whats worse, SMOKING WEED or cheating in the AFC Championship Game? Yet here we are, Sheldon Richardson is scheduled to miss four games, and Tom Brady will be under center on opening day. How is that NOT an absolute travesty of justice?

I was ready to accept Richardson's suspension and move on, all of us were, but now, after this ...

FREE. SHELDON. RICHARDSON.
You can't be serious. If you don't know the difference between Brady and Sheldon then you're not paying attention.

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82, correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to mischaracterize your words, but if I'm reading you correctly, your position is that Brady shouldn't have been punished for cheating in the first place, its up to the other teams to cheat better than the Patriots, and if they don't, they have only themselves to blame if the Pats have a competitive advantage?

I'm not criticizing you if thats your opinion, but if thats gonna be the standard, that its basically a free for all, anything goes, whoever cheats the best, to the victor goes the spoils, then teams need to know that in advance, everyone needs to know that its anything goes, so you don't have some team, like the Patriots, cheating with impunity, and others trying to obey rules they don't need to obey, which puts them at a disadvantage.

I'm okay with anything goes, just so long as it applies across the board and everyone knows its anything goes.
Reading through multiple posts, it's clear that you don't understand the ruling, abs trust me the media doesn't know how to properly report anything.

Sheldon was guilty of 4 failed drug tests in a process that is clearly detailed in the cba. His first failed test they warned him (didn't happen to Brady. ) each drug test has double redundancy to prevent a false positive. The cba has a clear procedure and clear punishment where the commissioner had zero discretion.

What the judge used as his explanation I believe is incorrect. In one sentence he's claiming the nfl needs a more legal system type cba for every possible violation, that's not realistic. Then he claims Brady wasnt warned, except if a legal system is the example, you can't claim ignorance in court. The government doesn't need to verbally warn you murder is illegal before charging you. It's hypocritical.

I do believe the judges action was correct in one respect, if he believed the process was invalid, he had to invalidate it, or throw it out. He had no power to modify it, reduce games or fines etc. So he did his job procedurally but was wrong in his reasoning.

Wells claims to have messages from Brady on the equipment guys phones. Verizon saves my messages, infirm Brady he must comply with investigators or be punished, request his backed up messages. Reinvestigate the case.

And the judge claims Goodell was partial against Brady. That's absurd! Everyone knows Goodell is best friends with kraft, and Brady should have been suspended for the super bowl. Then, this investigation took months to play out, the opposite of a witch hunt.


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mykcuz

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Both ray rice and ap had court cases in which they admitted they were guilty publicly. Brady doesn't have anything that consisting behind his punishment.

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hobson54

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Whether Sheldon did anything wrong or not is irrelevant. This is an anti-Jets witch hunt by a commissioner who has a close friendship with the Patriots owner.

As the court demonstrated, the league has no authority by which it can judge players. Therefore, anything further that is done to Sheldon should result in an apology by the league offices to the Jets for this unwarranted witch hunt.

how is this anti-jets? we weren't even supposed to play them during the suspension.

you could say it is anti-steeler (rooney family), anti-cowboys (jerry jones), anti-bills and anti-jags.

as to sheldon, i assume you also want legarette blount's suspension overturned?
 

hobson54

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btw - it's interesting to note that the vast majority of players who've chimed in on the matter were in favor of brady receiving no suspension. perhaps union loyalty i guess. but for all the hyperbole coming from jets fans, the players themselves don't seem to upset that "the scales are tilted in the pats favor" as expressed by a few posters here.
 
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