Best strategy for off season

[mydogisajetsfan]

Here's a radical view on Wilkerson. If I understand this correctly, I would designate him a "non-exclusive" franchise tag. If the amount he signs with another club is reasonable we match it. If not, we get two first round picks which I don't think a trade would get us. I actually think he won't get the money he's looking for. If Mo's not re-signed the money can be used to sign a decent OL, OLB and/or RB (including Ivory or Powell). Two extra picks sounds like a good return even for your best player, especially since DL is very strong this season.

If I misunderstood the franchise rules I'm happy to be corrected.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

i think he'll do a good job filling in the holes. My biggest concern is, yet again, QB. I don't think we can count on Fitz staying healthy enough to play 16 games... And I don't have too much faith that Petty will be ready to guide our offense for a significant part of the season and/or playoffs. And I think I may have even less faith in Geno, even if he's still here.

Yeah, having a starting QB who's 33 is playing with fire a little bit. That's why strengthening the o-line is imperative. If we can keep Fitz upright all year again, we're golden. He needs to cut down a little on the QB keepers, too. We dodged a few bullets last season. Some close calls where he almost got decapitated.

 

[isired]

Yeah, having a starting QB who's 33 is playing with fire a little bit. That's why strengthening the o-line is imperative. If we can keep Fitz upright all year again, we're golden. He needs to cut down a little on the QB keepers, too. We dodged a few bullets last season. Some close calls where he almost got decapitated.

He's had 11 years and from what I've read, his coaches have been on him about sliding and staying safe for most of his time in the league - Buffalo and Houston (and now here) for sure. I don't think it's happening at this point. Based on that, and his history, it's likely that we'll have QB2 under center for an extended stretch next season. Hoping they find a vet and/or Petty makes a huge leap between now and then. We're not likely to get in an Osweiler situation in a few months, but we've got to aim to find a backup that we can be comfortable for a few games.

 

[johnnysd]

You seem to be emotional about the draft, my question was in regard to the off season. That includes free agents, trades, drafts, and undrated fa's.
Last year MACC used ALL of the above to improve the team.

A common thought over the years has been, we draft defense in the first round every year while our offense was embarrassing, and it's time to start drafting offense in the first. Something that made sense, until I see how much defense is still the leading cause of a championship.

Then you have the balanced approach guys.

I'm wondering, does it make sense to have a dominant defense be our focus, while trusting our now improved offense is adequate enough?

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Invalid premise. Elite QBs win Championships in the years that their defenses play well. And although his stats were mediocre, thinking Manning on brain alone is not elite is foolish.

 

[johnnysd]

Yeah, having a starting QB who's 33 is playing with fire a little bit. That's why strengthening the o-line is imperative. If we can keep Fitz upright all year again, we're golden. He needs to cut down a little on the QB keepers, too. We dodged a few bullets last season. Some close calls where he almost got decapitated.

Fitz is not good enough. Period. He should be looked as a backup/mentor only. This entire offseason should be focused on getting a potential franchise guy at QB. Mac needs to push back on Bowles desire to play mediocre veterans over younger players. Fitz is comfortable for Bowles. As GM Mac needs to let Bowles know that is just not good enough.

 

[Mainejet]

Fitz is not good enough. Period. He should be looked as a backup/mentor only. This entire offseason should be focused on getting a potential franchise guy at QB. Mac needs to push back on Bowles desire to play mediocre veterans over younger players. Fitz is comfortable for Bowles. As GM Mac needs to let Bowles know that is just not good enough.

So what's your suggestion then genius? And please don't say anything psychotic like starting Geno Smith?

 

[jetgreen13]

Fitz is not good enough. Period. He should be looked as a backup/mentor only. This entire offseason should be focused on getting a potential franchise guy at QB. Mac needs to push back on Bowles desire to play mediocre veterans over younger players. Fitz is comfortable for Bowles. As GM Mac needs to let Bowles know that is just not good enough.

yeah, well your pearls of wisdom seem to be falling (thankfully) on deaf ears..

you've been singing the same damn song for months without the slightest admission fitzpatrick put up good numbers & brings plenty of intangibles to the table as well..

you've been dead wrong about fitzpatrick but refuse to back off even an inch.. LOLz i almost respect your blind as a bat devotion.. almost..

jeezbus..

 

[isired]

Fitz isn't an "elite" QB, he isn't a "great" QB in historical context - but he was good enough this year. He had a bad game at a bad time, but the same can be said of our vaunted D in that have, and a few others. Basically everything we had hoped about Gailey + Fitz came through, it was our best case scenario, and IF he stays healthy I expect the same next year. IF. And if he doesn't, and we stick with Geno and Petty or Petty and another project, I expect we'll miss the playoffs yet again and a lot of seats will start to get warm again.

 

[mykcuz]

Fitz is not good enough. Period. He should be looked as a backup/mentor only. This entire offseason should be focused on getting a potential franchise guy at QB. Mac needs to push back on Bowles desire to play mediocre veterans over younger players. Fitz is comfortable for Bowles. As GM Mac needs to let Bowles know that is just not good enough.

The guy who won the respect of every single player in the locker room, and had the best Jet year ever while playing 8 games with a cast on his hand isn't even good? Ha.

The right guy, in the right system. Fitz has something maybe 6 other nfl qbs have. He goes into every game all in, ready to fight to the death. If the best season in history isn't good enough for you, what will make you happy? How's anybody going to live up to your expectations?

Drafting a qb is always a risk, who do you want to replace Fitz, who is available?

Your comments about macc reigning in Bowles are laughable. Mac immediately went on camera saying he's going to resign Fitz.

Fitz is 33, manning is 7 years older. The nfl protects the qb so much that these guys can roll into the field in wheelchairs and win.

Fitz has to improve certain tendencies, just like every qb, but he can give us a fighters chance with this lineup for 3-4 more years, hopefully we find a treasure to replace him over that span.

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[NYJETSDAN16]

1st off, get rid of the dead weight $$ in the locker room and don't resign players that just aren't worth it:

Stevan Ridley
Stephen Bowen
Jeff Cumberland
Geno Smith
Demario Davis
Willie Colon
Leger Douzable
Kellen Davis
Ben Iljiana
Dee Milliner
Ryan Quigley
Zac Stacy
Calvin Pace
Breno Giacomini

2nd Re-structure contracts- D'Brick, Revis,Cromartie, Carpenter, Harris, Decker

3rd- sign our own that are worth it.
*Damon Harrison
*Bilal Powell-out of all of our free agents, i think this is a must. He excelled under Gailey's system and he may well be entering his prime. Cannot let this guy go.
*Ryan Fitzpatrick-They guy was spectacular this year. He won the respect of every player in that locker room. Plus, his tutelage of his game towards Bryce Petty on how to be a professional in this league can't be over compensated.
*Chris Ivory (at the right price)
*Erin Henderson

3b)-Franchise Mo Wilkerson-He just beasted this season under Bowles system. Though if some one wants to give us 2 first rounders for him, so be it.

4rth rack up draft picks- Trade Sheldon Richardson, dude is one strike away from missing the entire season and killing cash in which could have gone else where. We have his replacement on Leonard Williams. Trade Kerely, it's evident he just doesn't fit into Gailey's system and the punt return game dies out there with him racing to the sidelines.

5th-Sign free agents that don't bind your cap space for years. We dont need to sign big time players. The core is there, especially if we re-sign our own. IMHO, Shane Lechler is a free agent, our Punter situation has sucked to put it mildly. Time to sign the best in the game.

6th-Trade for a player(s) if it will promote a healthy competition for the position but will not disturb our cap in the future.

7th-Let Mac be Mac on draft day. He did superb last April/May.

 

[Bronx]

Here is one ranking of the top 75 free agents. I'd go hard after the guard/ tackle from the Ravens. He's only 26
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/15/pro-pffs-top-75-free-agents-of-2016/


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[Bronx]

If that were our only new FA addition , I'd be content


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[Bronx]

BTW,no way in high hell the Jets don't tag Wilkerson. It may be the transition tag, but he will be tagged, and 95% a Jet next year


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[soj]

1st off, get rid of the dead weight $$ in the locker room and don't resign players that just aren't worth it:

Stevan Ridley
Stephen Bowen
Jeff Cumberland
Geno Smith
Demario Davis
Willie Colon
Leger Douzable
Kellen Davis
Ben Iljiana
Dee Milliner
Ryan Quigley
Zac Stacy
Calvin Pace
Breno Giacomini

2nd Re-structure contracts- D'Brick, Revis,Cromartie, Carpenter, Harris, Decker

3rd- sign our own that are worth it.
*Damon Harrison
*Bilal Powell-out of all of our free agents, i think this is a must. He excelled under Gailey's system and he may well be entering his prime. Cannot let this guy go.
*Ryan Fitzpatrick-They guy was spectacular this year. He won the respect of every player in that locker room. Plus, his tutelage of his game towards Bryce Petty on how to be a professional in this league can't be over compensated.
*Chris Ivory (at the right price)
*Erin Henderson

3b)-Franchise Mo Wilkerson-He just beasted this season under Bowles system. Though if some one wants to give us 2 first rounders for him, so be it.

4rth rack up draft picks- Trade Sheldon Richardson, dude is one strike away from missing the entire season and killing cash in which could have gone else where. We have his replacement on Leonard Williams. Trade Kerely, it's evident he just doesn't fit into Gailey's system and the punt return game dies out there with him racing to the sidelines.

5th-Sign free agents that don't bind your cap space for years. We dont need to sign big time players. The core is there, especially if we re-sign our own. IMHO, Shane Lechler is a free agent, our Punter situation has sucked to put it mildly. Time to sign the best in the game.

6th-Trade for a player(s) if it will promote a healthy competition for the position but will not disturb our cap in the future.

7th-Let Mac be Mac on draft day. He did superb last April/May.

only person I would take a flyer on is Millner... if he stays healthy - big if - he can be a valuable addition.

 

[Bronx]

With Cro gone , Dee should stay


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[flgreen]

only person I would take a flyer on is Millner... if he stays healthy - big if - he can be a valuable addition.

With Cro gone , Dee should stay


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Dee Milliner most likely will be on the team next year. He doesn't save the Jets a penny by being cut. Seemingly Bowles doesn't share the view that he is a valuable addition.

Remember that he was a healthy scratch for 8 games last year. Didn't take a single defensive snap. Bowles said he was healthy, and he played some ST's on the few times he was active, so he was healthy.

That speaks volumes about what Bowles thinks of him considering that Cro was very inconsistent. It seems Bowles has a lot more problems with Milliner then he can't stay healthy.

 

[Bronx]

Muhammad Wilkerson racked up 80 total pressures and 39 defensive stops in 2015, he was one of just 7 players with 75 pressures and 35 stops


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[NYJETSDAN16]

only person I would take a flyer on is Millner... if he stays healthy - big if - he can be a valuable addition.

Thats like saying, Keep Geno, he'll eventually become a franchise QB. lol

 

[Bronx]

Dee has the highest ceiling, except Revis, as an outside corner, of anyone on the roster. With limited cap space, and under contract , like it or not, he will get a chance to start next season


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[flgreen]

Dee has the highest ceiling, except Revis, as an outside corner, of anyone on the roster. With limited cap space, and under contract , like it or not, he will get a chance to start next season


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Just wondering what your basing that on when he didn't get a single snap this year when he was healthy for half the season?