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And finally, the NY Jets and NY Giants played ALL their home games in New Haven, CT for a number of seasons and the Buffalo Bills have played home games in another country for a multi year period and a home game in Michigan just last season while the Detroit Lions played their home games in Pontiac, MI for more than a decade and the Miami.Dolphins have played in and continue to play ALL their home games in a stadium NOT physically located in Miami FL. and HYATT's very own beloved. Packers played a number of games annually in Milwaukee for decades
None of these teams have changed names because of the geographic location of their stadia or arena
None of these teams have changed names because of the geographic location of their stadia or arena
I think y'all are missing the point of the question.
Arlington, TX isn't Dallas either, but it IS a part of the Dallas/Fort Worth Metro area and BOTH are still in the same state of Texas.
Likewise, The Redskins play in FedX Field, which is in an UNINCORPORATED part of Prince George's County - which, coincidentally, is what Washington - the District of Columbia - was carved out of.
It carries a postal code designating it as Landover, Maryland.
Apparently someone is confused about WHICH "Washington" is a part of the Redskins team name, but I assure you it is not Washington STATE, where the Seattle Sea Pigeons play.
Detroit Lions, formerly in Pontiac Michigan, STILL at least played in the same state as Detroit.
Located in Oakland County - which is composed of 61 cities, townships and villages - it is part of the Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area & considered to be in the Metro Detroit area.
The city of Detroit is located in neighboring Wayne County, south of 8 Mile Road.
Much like Arlington, TX, where the Cowgyrls play, the city name where the actual stadium is located becomes irrelevant when the area itself is a part of the designated metro area of that team's namesake.
The Pistons playing in Auburn Hills are in the exact same boat, since Auburn Hills is actually on Pontiac's borders to the east and north.
It COULD be argued that The Meadowlands are a part of the NYC metro area, except that for all but statistical purposes it is part and parcel of the NEW JERSEY tax and governance structure.
Ergo, comparisons to Pontiac/Auburn Hills, Landover, and Arlington do not apply.
The Packers playing in Milwaukee is also irrelevant, since they never LEFT Green Bay since their inception.
That was a really poorly thought out counter-argument.
Arlington, TX isn't Dallas either, but it IS a part of the Dallas/Fort Worth Metro area and BOTH are still in the same state of Texas.
Likewise, The Redskins play in FedX Field, which is in an UNINCORPORATED part of Prince George's County - which, coincidentally, is what Washington - the District of Columbia - was carved out of.
It carries a postal code designating it as Landover, Maryland.
Apparently someone is confused about WHICH "Washington" is a part of the Redskins team name, but I assure you it is not Washington STATE, where the Seattle Sea Pigeons play.
Detroit Lions, formerly in Pontiac Michigan, STILL at least played in the same state as Detroit.
Located in Oakland County - which is composed of 61 cities, townships and villages - it is part of the Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area & considered to be in the Metro Detroit area.
The city of Detroit is located in neighboring Wayne County, south of 8 Mile Road.
Much like Arlington, TX, where the Cowgyrls play, the city name where the actual stadium is located becomes irrelevant when the area itself is a part of the designated metro area of that team's namesake.
The Pistons playing in Auburn Hills are in the exact same boat, since Auburn Hills is actually on Pontiac's borders to the east and north.
It COULD be argued that The Meadowlands are a part of the NYC metro area, except that for all but statistical purposes it is part and parcel of the NEW JERSEY tax and governance structure.
Ergo, comparisons to Pontiac/Auburn Hills, Landover, and Arlington do not apply.
The Packers playing in Milwaukee is also irrelevant, since they never LEFT Green Bay since their inception.
That was a really poorly thought out counter-argument.
I assume yer referring to the marketing tool for Red Bull that was formerly known as the New York/New Jersey MetroStars until 2006.
Yes, technically it's an exception, though based on a marketing strategy more than any identifier with a locality fan base.
MLS is nearly irrelevant in America.
HYATT™ doesn't even consider soccer a major professional sport in the United States, being largely the domain of soccer moms, teenagers, and a toy for rich slurps like Paul Allen & Bobby Kraft to buggar each other with.
At least the New York City Football (soccer) Club has the decency to actually be located in New York & the MetroStars followed protocol - until the Madison Avenue crowd got involved - in naming themselves after BOTH New York AND New Jersey, NJ being where they were located.
If the Jets would follow a similar naming strategy, NY/NJ Jets, I'd be fine with that at least.
sg3, if you want to allow 1-game exceptions, then every NFL team that's ever played in London, Mexico City, or Japan is also included.
Don't you think that was a bit of a stretch to try and include Buffalo playing a few games in Toronto - which they've since abandoned, is my understanding.
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Ergo,
The Washington Redskins represent the District of Colombia which is NOT a part of the State of Maryland but that is where their stadium is. SO your original dumb question was answered.
Oh, I know this is difficult for you but your Metropolitan Area excuse above is exactly why neither the New York Jets nor the New York Giants need to give a crap what some cheese curdler from freaking Wisconsin thinks they should or shouldn't be named
And with that, consider me no longer interested in any of your inane questions
The Washington Redskins represent the District of Colombia which is NOT a part of the State of Maryland but that is where their stadium is. SO your original dumb question was answered.
Oh, I know this is difficult for you but your Metropolitan Area excuse above is exactly why neither the New York Jets nor the New York Giants need to give a crap what some cheese curdler from freaking Wisconsin thinks they should or shouldn't be named
And with that, consider me no longer interested in any of your inane questions
Differences without a distinction.
All are suburbs of the cities the teams are named after, located in close proximity in the same state as the naming cities.
Is the Meadowlands in New York State or in any significant legal, tax, population, or regulatory area involving New York - state OR city?
The answer is no, The Meadowlands, in East Rutherford, NEW JERSEY, is in no way overseen by New York.
It is a bourough of Bergen County, in the state of New Jersey, represented in the United States Congress as a part of New Jersey.
There is nothing "New York" about East Rutherford other than it's skyline.
Having traveled around Bergen County myself, I would suggest there is a fairly large segment of it's somewhat not exactly rural but sorta suburban, *which is quite loverly outside of the I-95 corridor actually), population that does NOT want to be identified as having anything to do with New York - state or city.
Alright guys. This thread was supposed to be about the name change of the site but it turned into a pissing contest about geographies and what the NY Jets should be called.
I had an idea while watching Talking Dead today ([MENTION=45]jetgreen13[/MENTION] [MENTION=116]TeachDown[/MENTION]) to name the site TalkingJets.com but someone has the name! Back to the drawing board.
I had an idea while watching Talking Dead today ([MENTION=45]jetgreen13[/MENTION] [MENTION=116]TeachDown[/MENTION]) to name the site TalkingJets.com but someone has the name! Back to the drawing board.
What's yer point?
TV broadcast areas are now state boundaries?
Since we're taking a snotty tack, which part of "Washington, District of Columbia, being carved out of Prince George's County, (where FedX and Landover are located), in the State of Maryland" did you fail to comprehend?
At this point in time it's almost impossible to carve out a significant new piece of ground to build a stadium on, in any major metropolitan city's proper boundaries. It's simply cost-prohibitive unless the site of an old stadium was already in hand.
Ergo, any team building a new stadium is almost guaranteed to be building in a suburb, where land prices are more affordable.
The old Jack Kent Cook grounds were totally unacceptable for FedX - I know, I've been there and it backs right up to a major highway on the south side & is a heavily residential area on the other three.
As for the "cheese curdler from Wisconsin" comment, I'm sure all the other Jets fans who don't actually live in New York OR New Jersey, appreciate your upper crust "native" superiority complex commentary.
I started becoming a pretty serious Jets fan in 1986 or so, incidentally.
How long have you been one?
(Who's dick is bigger rhetorical, no actual need to answer the question.)
Are you saying there is some meaningful distinction between the NFL and TV?
My point is that the NY Jets represent the NY Metro area, just as many teams draw a fan base from across state borders.
As far as the name change, I think maybe the Jets and Giants, and probably others, learned a lesson from the Nets - who lost their NY fans in the move to NJ in a way that the Jets never did.
LOLz that would have been awesome!!
we can't do NYTalkingJets.com or TalkingNYJets.com??
This again? Come on, Hyatt, it's time to move on about this. Especially with Rex coaching the Orchard Park Bills, it's time for a fresh start.
That could prob get done but talkingjets has a nice ring to it. I checked out the site and nothing is going on so I will contact owner and hope to charm him lol. Still need MV and Renegade to agree lol
State only applies if you are using the state name. If you're using a state name, put yourself wherever you want in that state.
On the other hand, Washington, Buffalo, and Dallas are cities. Same with San Francisco and that new stadium. None of those teams have a stadium in the political/geographic entity for which they are named. If it was the Texas Cowboys, it wouldn't matter that they don't play in Dallas. But they're called Dallas.
This is why I cannot buy into Hyatt's stuff about the NJ Jets.
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