Bryce Petty

[NYJETSDAN16]

I have to say, i was against starting Josh McCown week one. Though i feel this was one of the best decisions the coaching staff has made. It is allowing John Morton system to be operating the right way as the organization is assessing the young players accordingly. Josh is helping out the younger QBs on how to act on and off the field. Lets be honest, Josh has been the Anti-Fitz. He's selfless and a team first individual. I believe that will pay off dividends in developing #5 and # 9 respectively.


With that being said, we all know Josh's durability in this league when he has played. He's one hit away from the Bryce Petty era. Its year three and if it doesnt click now when his opportunity comes, then the Jets definitely may have to look to move on from him. Personaly, i see a lot of Drew Brees in him when Drew started out. First two years didnt show alot of signs of a leader, then year three the Chargers drafted (traded for) Philip Rivers. The organization moved on, mentally, from him. Thats where he seized his opportunity.

Maybe the same could occur with Bryce. Mike Maccagnan is enamored with Christian Hackenberg (even i like his potential). The team is doing everything to develop him the "right" way. It seems as if Petty may in fact be an after thought. Just my humble opinion, i feel Bryce will showcase many Drew'esque qualities once the team makes him the starter and the games still mean something as it was for Brees when he took over for Doug Flutie in '04.


Would be nice to see a young QB at the helm who has been groomed the right way.

 

[jetgreen13]

if & when petty's opportunity comes up this season, he has to shine because i flat out don't believe bowles takes him seriously.. at all.. if this organization or others are going to take him seriously as a possible starter, the time is this season..

I'm pulling for the kid.. i like physical tools, professionalism & the way he carries himself in pressers.. he communicates like a leader.. not surprised to hear he's well respected in the locker room..

 

[NewMFS62]

I have this theory. It reads like a spy thriller.
I believe the coaches realize how good Petty is and don't want to start him because he has the potential to lead the team to at least 5 more wins. That would save Bowles' job as well as kill the chances for getting a top QB in the next draft. Mac was pinning his future on that next QB pick and the lousy record would also give him justification to dump Bowles. Unfortunately, McCown is messing up the plan by winning games.
It is my contention that if Petty is good enough to win 5 or more games with this young team, he IS the QB of the future, and the next draft can be used for building an even better young team around him.
So, we'll never see that happen.
I gotta' go check my meds before the game.

Later

 

[The Wicker Man]

It's hard not to root for McCown. I really didn't know too much about the dude, but, he's classy and seems genuine.

 

[jetgreen13]

It's hard not to root for McCown. I really didn't know too much about the dude, but, he's classy and seems genuine.

no argument from me..

problem is, he's also a 38 year old JAG, on a one year deal.....

 

[NewMFS62]

no argument from me..

problem is, he's also a 38 year old JAG, on a one year deal.....

At the age of 38, Brett Favre led his team to a 13-3 record and threw for over 4,300 yds. Who knows? Maybe he finally learned the position? (ducking)
Later

 

[The Wicker Man]

no argument from me..

problem is, he's also a 38 year old JAG, on a one year deal.....

oh, i get it, but, he's likable.

 

[forevergreen]

I think now that we know they are not in nor never were in tank mode the QB situation makes total sense.

They gave Hack a fair shot - he failed.
Petty shined but not enough (remember beginning of camp his stats were not very impressive)
McCown won the job and the Jets want to win games - they are not tanking.

I dont think McCown will last the season - simply because of injury. I also think that even if we are eliminated from Playoffs, I think Petty will get his chance before Hack. Petty may or may not be long term solution as franchise - but he is certainly a solid backup and worth giving reps to.

Another thing I think is interesting is what Hack did in the offseason to improve his game - nothing.

He could of went to camp with Gruden, he could of been doing a lot of things but he did nothing that I am aware of. Petty did quite a bit if you go back through the news. Both are project QB's. Project guys need all the work they can get to develop. Hack may have more upside, but do any of us really know if he has work ethic outside the building? All we can go by is what the press reports. And the only reports this past year (offseason) was on petty that I saw.

You need to figure either next year they sign a FA like cousins or draft. If they draft, the guy can compete with Petty and Hack. If they bring McCown back he will probably be backup next year to whomever wins the job. If they sign a FA, then petty will probably be backup.

 

[Old#15]

I think now that we know they are not in nor never were in tank mode the QB situation makes total sense.

They gave Hack a fair shot - he failed.
Petty shined but not enough (remember beginning of camp his stats were not very impressive)
McCown won the job and the Jets want to win games - they are not tanking.

I dont think McCown will last the season - simply because of injury. I also think that even if we are eliminated from Playoffs, I think Petty will get his chance before Hack. Petty may or may not be long term solution as franchise - but he is certainly a solid backup and worth giving reps to.

Another thing I think is interesting is what Hack did in the offseason to improve his game - nothing.

He could of went to camp with Gruden, he could of been doing a lot of things but he did nothing that I am aware of. Petty did quite a bit if you go back through the news. Both are project QB's. Project guys need all the work they can get to develop. Hack may have more upside, but do any of us really know if he has work ethic outside the building? All we can go by is what the press reports. And the only reports this past year (offseason) was on petty that I saw.

You need to figure either next year they sign a FA like cousins or draft. If they draft, the guy can compete with Petty and Hack. If they bring McCown back he will probably be backup next year to whomever wins the job. If they sign a FA, then petty will probably be backup.

According to sources he is a very hard worker, and I read that Hackenberg worked all summer with supposed QB guru Jordan Palmer (Carson's brother) in California and at home with coaches from his high school. Whether it translated on the field is a different matter altogether, but hard work doesn't seem to be the issue.

 

[forevergreen]

Footwork and accuracy are totally based on hard work and practice. Athletics and on field intelligence along with quick thinking are natural. Field of vision is in between.

Bottom line - His footwork and accuracy have no improved much. That demonstrates either he didnt practice properly - or he didnt practice much at all. I saw him at training camp on one of the public days. He was awful. Everybody was cringing along the fence line. Not the same with Petty. Petty actually had a couple of good passes. The only pass that Hack completed that day was a throw behind the receiver (classic sanchez-esq throw that leads to no yards after the catch). The rest were wild or short passes which still were off.

 

[Old#15]

In a vacuum you are correct, currently his footwork and accuracy are still not good enough. However, if you look at his progress from his rookie season to what we saw this past preseason, it was night and day IMHO. I'm hoping, perhaps unrealistically, that he continues his growth and is ready to contribute next year. Many said, both within the organization and out that Hack was not going to be ready in one or even two years, so maybe next year when he is still only 23 years old we see a much better QB. For the organization's sake that would be a homerun, particularly if we are not in a position to draft one of the elite QB prospects coming out this year.

 

[Mainejet]

I'm fine with Petty EARNING the opportunity to start. McCown is not the future, but as much as I hated the idea at the beginning of the season, he's played much better than most thought he was capable of. So Petty should earn it and quite honestly that's a very reasonable and logical way to manage the team.........

 

[Old#15]

I would love to know what everyone's opinion is regarding Petty's ceiling. Is it Andy Dalton, something less or better? Remember that AD has the luxury of having one of the best WR's and until injury a top 10 TE to bail him out.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I would love to know what everyone's opinion is regarding Petty's ceiling. Is it Andy Dalton, something less or better? Remember that AD has the luxury of having one of the best WR's and until injury a top 10 TE to bail him out.

With this OL, its not very high. I still think Petty can play, but it looks like we won't ever know.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

I have this theory. It reads like a spy thriller.
I believe the coaches realize how good Petty is and don't want to start him because he has the potential to lead the team to at least 5 more wins. That would save Bowles' job as well as kill the chances for getting a top QB in the next draft. Mac was pinning his future on that next QB pick and the lousy record would also give him justification to dump Bowles. Unfortunately, McCown is messing up the plan by winning games.
It is my contention that if Petty is good enough to win 5 or more games with this young team, he IS the QB of the future, and the next draft can be used for building an even better young team around him.
So, we'll never see that happen.
I gotta' go check my meds before the game.

Later

Some problems with you logic.
1 Mac does not have the authority to fire Bowles, they are equals and report to Woody, now Chris temporarily.
Bowles is the Head coach , and has final say over who starts , not the other coaches who are under him.
Bowles is coaching for his job, the rest of the coaching staff will be gone right along with Bowles if he is fired.
If the coaching staff believe Petty was the best QB on the roster,he would be the starter because if this team gets at least 5 more wins. Bowles is coach of the year and Mac executive of the year.

 

[forevergreen]

I think Petty has a high ceiling. I dont think this team is in a state for him to succeed though. It certainly wasnt last year - the o-line nearly ended his career and the rest gave up. This year everything is so raw....I think given the chance Petty could be Kirk Cousins.

 

[forevergreen]

Better than dalton def.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

I think now that we know they are not in nor never were in tank mode the QB situation makes total sense.

They gave Hack a fair shot - he failed.
Petty shined but not enough (remember beginning of camp his stats were not very impressive)
McCown won the job and the Jets want to win games - they are not tanking.

I dont think McCown will last the season - simply because of injury. I also think that even if we are eliminated from Playoffs, I think Petty will get his chance before Hack. Petty may or may not be long term solution as franchise - but he is certainly a solid backup and worth giving reps to.

Another thing I think is interesting is what Hack did in the offseason to improve his game - nothing.

He could of went to camp with Gruden, he could of been doing a lot of things but he did nothing that I am aware of. Petty did quite a bit if you go back through the news. Both are project QB's. Project guys need all the work they can get to develop. Hack may have more upside, but do any of us really know if he has work ethic outside the building? All we can go by is what the press reports. And the only reports this past year (offseason) was on petty that I saw.

You need to figure either next year they sign a FA like cousins or draft. If they draft, the guy can compete with Petty and Hack. If they bring McCown back he will probably be backup next year to whomever wins the job. If they sign a FA, then petty will probably be backup.

Petty was rehabbing this off-season from shoulder surgery to repair his torn labrum.
Hack worked with Palmer at Summit in California all off season .

 

[forevergreen]

And yet Petty still was and is better. Says quite a lot.