Buzz: Per Bleacher Report: JetsDoing Extensive Work on Deshaun Watson

[jetgreen13]

We have 3 QBs that we still are not sure what we have; why draft another? The theory is nice to keep trying until you land one but that really is a pipe dream as they will never get any playing time. Major problem this past year is nobody got much play time except for Fitz. Even though the injuries had a lot to do with this, IMO , Gailey was the reason for sticking with Fitz. This is the perfect scenario to see if any of the three are "that guy". Make sure we are in position next year to get to the top of the draft in 2018 in case none of these guys is "that guy". Build the OL and roll everything for a top pick then.
So far I am really liking Jake Browning (but hoping we never need to consider him) and he can even throw a wet football! I hope Petty has been practicing under the sprinkler this off season,

actually smith is a FA but i understand your premise..

what i don't understand is how you would plan to get three young QBs enough snaps with the starters to find out what you have with any of them??

hell, it's hard enough to do that with two young QBs..

seems to me, this regime should try to develop the QBs they drafted & finally cut bait with the one they didn't..

 

[usapaw]

actually smith is a FA but i understand your premise..

what i don't understand is how you would plan to get three young QBs enough snaps with the starters to find out what you have with any of them??

hell, it's hard enough to do that with two young QBs..

seems to me, this regime should try to develop the QBs they drafted & finally cut bait with the one they didn't..

Smith is a viable option as the third guy to bring in, but they should probably move on. We will need one guy that has experience, but maybe not right away. I agree that Petty & Hack should get the majority of work, best man starts, if that is what you are saying?

 

[SackExchange]

i think smith has shown this organization & it's fan base quite enough since his antics on his the draft draft day, thanks so much..

maybe i'm the crazy one.. but why not (if they are ready) use this full bore rebuilding season to see what the kids this regime actually drafted have?? as opposed to the guy they did everything possible to keep on the bench last season..

what the hell are either you or i missing??

I couldn't agree more. Even if Smith has matured, he has done nothing to merit this organization giving him another contract. If he wants to play, let it be somewhere else.

Let the kids this regime drafted show what they have, or don't have.

 

[jetgreen13]

Smith is a viable option as the third guy to bring in, but they should probably move on. We will need one guy that has experience, but maybe not right away. I agree that Petty & Hack should get the majority of work, best man starts, if that is what you are saying?

yep.. we are in a full blown rebuild now.. petty & hackenberg should get the majority of the work.. my belief anyway..

 

[jetgreen13]

I couldn't agree more. Even if Smith has matured, he has done nothing to merit this organization giving him another contract. If he wants to play, let it be somewhere else.

Let the kids this regime drafted show what they have, or don't have.

i'm in complete lockstep with this post..

 

[SackExchange]

yep.. we are in a full blown rebuild now.. petty & hackenberg should get the majority of the work.. my belief anyway..

As for a backup, I'd look for a veteran, but:

1. with no history with the Jets, and
2. with no concerns about legitimately contending to start.

I know it's counter-intuitive to look for a guy who would not be starter material, but the way the media love knocking the Jets and creating controversies, this organization would be best served with a guy who is a true backup.

 

[jetgreen13]

As for a backup, I'd look for a veteran, but:

1. with no history with the Jets, and
2. with no concerns about legitimately contending to start.

I know it's counter-intuitive to look for a guy who would not be starter material, but the way the media love knocking the Jets and creating controversies, this organization would be best served with a guy who is a true backup.

two straight posts we are in lockstep & i do believe this is the path we will take..

my concern is, (unless things have changed behind closed doors) the HC still does not answer to the GM..

i'm afraid bowles has it stuck in his head, winning more games with a JAG veteran QB (instead of dealing with the inevitable growing pains with the kids) is the way he saves his job..

ownership, management & the head coach all need to be on the same page going forward.....

 

[Old#15]

My only reservation about playing the young guys with a experienced hand holding the clipboard, is that some young guys need to sit for a while before they are ready. That doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be a franchise or quality starter at QB, it just means that some guys need longer to grow into the role properly. Arguably, Jets management and CS have ruined two young QBs already in the last 8 years. I don't think we'll ever know if either Sanchez or Geno could have been different players had they had the proper amount of time, coaching and surrounding talent. I guess that's why I'm a little gun-shy and not so quick to get on Bowles about trying to save his job by playing washed-up vets over either Petty or Hack. Maybe that's a flaw on my end, but its how I see the whole question.

 

[jetgreen13]

My only reservation about playing the young guys with a experienced hand holding the clipboard, is that some young guys need to sit for a while before they are ready. That doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be a franchise or quality starter at QB, it just means that some guys need longer to grow into the role properly. Arguably, Jets management and CS have ruined two young QBs already in the last 8 years. I don't think we'll ever know if either Sanchez or Geno could have been different players had they had the proper amount of time, coaching and surrounding talent. I guess that's why I'm a little gun-shy and not so quick to get on Bowles about trying to save his job by playing washed-up vets over either Petty or Hack. Maybe that's a flaw on my end, but its how I see the whole question.

if petty & hackenberg still aren't ready for their shot, start whomever ends up being the veteran JAG.. i'm OK with that & i have said as much..

again, it's the chain of order that still concerns the hell out of me..

if in bowles' eyes, petty & or hackenberg have to dramatically outplay a veteran JAG to start, something would be very ass backwards & self serving with that picture..

 

[SackExchange]

two straight posts we are in lockstep & i do believe this is the path we will take..

my concern is, (unless things have changed behind closed doors) the HC still does not answer to the GM..

i'm afraid bowles has it stuck in his head, winning more games with a JAG veteran QB (instead of dealing with the inevitable growing pains with the kids) is the way he saves his job..

ownership, management & the head coach all need to be on the same page going forward.....

Although I think some of the stuff bashing Woody is overblown, I will agree with you about this. The HC should report directly to the GM, rather than this ridiculous parallel structure.

 

[jetgreen13]

Although I think some of the stuff bashing Woody is overblown, I will agree with you about this. The HC should report directly to the GM, rather than this ridiculous parallel structure.

hard to imagine if casserly & wolf were asked about this chain of command, they gave their blessings to this inevitable fiasco..

 

[Old#15]

Kinda curious if that management structure is being employed elsewhere in the NFL, and by whom. Really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either. Seems like a recipe for conflicting agendas for sure.

 

[jetgreen13]

Kinda curious if that management structure is being employed elsewhere in the NFL, and by whom. Really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either. Seems like a recipe for conflicting agendas for sure.

i have no idea.. but i'm sure we can safely rattled off at least a handful of NFL organizations that don't.. our co-tenants come to mind..

 

[mykcuz]

i have no idea.. but i'm sure we can safely rattled off at least a handful of NFL organizations that don't.. our co-tenants come to mind..

I remember a story saying is not common, but does exist elsewhere. Obviously it happens in new England.

The setup on its own isn't a problem. Woody considered the whole management team when they were hired. So mac liked or picked Bowles and knew what he was getting into.

If Woody listens to both gm and coach it's perfectly fine, it matters how he handles that info. For example, does he listen to both sides but yield to gm? By all accounts they have powwows and it's a 3 person business meeting.

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[jetgreen13]

I remember a story saying is not common, but does exist elsewhere. Obviously it happens in new England.

The setup on its own isn't a problem. Woody considered the whole management team when they were hired. So mac liked or picked Bowles and knew what he was getting into.

If Woody listens to both gm and coach it's perfectly fine, it matters how he handles that info. For example, does he listen to both sides but yield to gm? By all accounts they have powwows and it's a 3 person business meeting.

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& phil jackson did pretty well with the triangle offense too..

multiple super bowl wins & NBA championships apparently is a great deodorant..

 

[Bigmoe]

[h=1]Deshaun Watson sets himself apart in sizzling workout at combine[/h] http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...un-watson-combine-workout-nfl-draft/98751644/

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Watson reminds me of Dak.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Watson reminds me of Dak.

I still stand by this. I like Adams, but I would be much more excited about this season with Watson.