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Top Play: Hackenberg to Leggett for TD

Second Year QB Delivers Strike to Rookie TE During Green & White Scrimmage


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Top Play: McCown Goes Deep to Harper for TD

Veteran QB Finds First-Year Jet for 55 Yard TD


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Top Play: McCown to Seferian-Jenkins for a TD

Veteran QB Finds TE for a Touchdown Connection During the Green & White Scrimmage


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Old#15

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Have heard very little about DLee throughout camp so far, would like to hear from anyone who attended practices or Green and White for input.
 

jetgreen13

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hackenberg immediately feels the pressure, steps up athletically in the pocket & throws a bullet to leggett, still while running forward for the TD..

i've been following camp reports & i've heard hackenberg is having a nice camp but has been holding on to the ball to long, resulting in would be sacks.. he certainly didn't have any issues with that on that TD pass!!

impressive sequence by the kid..

side note:

@Old#15.. as far as camp notes on lee, he has been virtually invisible..
 
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Mainejet

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Have heard very little about DLee throughout camp so far, would like to hear from anyone who attended practices or Green and White for input.

That's because he's a disappointment. You're expecting this big jump from year one to two with Lee? It's not going to happen. He's a bust, pure and simple.

In fact, the only news I've heard of him during this training camp is the following from yesterday:

Elijah McGuire reached over Darron Lee's head to receive an errant pass from the QB.

That right there should tell you a few things. 1) He still has speed and can keep up RB's running the wheel route. This means he did not gain weight and that should have been mandatory given how badly he got beaten playing as an ILB. 2) Just like last season, his speed is useless because he NEVER turns his head around to look for the ball.

Now, word has it from the CS that Lee will play only inside? When he was drafted, they said he would play inside and outside. But now they've changed their minds and decided that he'll never be big enough to play outside. So now he's strictly an ILB. In other words, now even the CS is backtracking on what Lee can be and how versatile he'll be for the defense.
This all goes back to his limitations that I railed on Mac for being too dumb to realize:
  • HEIGHT
  • 33 1/4"ARM LENGTH
  • 232LBS.WEIGHT
  • 9 3/4"HANDS
OVERVIEW

Lee's never been short on confidence, proclaiming to teammates that he was the one to take over for 2014 first-round pick Ryan Shazier in the Buckeyes' defense -- even though he was only a year removed from starring as a quarterback and cornerback in high school. He wound up starting all 15 games in that redshirt freshman year for the national champion Buckeyes, earning multiple Freshman All-American accolades with 81 tackles, 16.5 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks. Lee truly hit the national stage by terrorizing Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, receiving Defensive MVP honors with seven tackles, three for loss, and two sacks. His play as a sophomore was just as good, tracking down ball carriers 66 times, 11 for a loss and 4.5 sacks on his way to second-team All-Big Ten accolades from league coaches (third team media).

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

Quick to diagnose and flow to the ball. Has unusual ability to find the most efficient routes to the ball. Has athleticism and flexibility to contort his body and succeed through difficult tackle angles. Plays with loose hips, quick feet and desired agility of an NFL weak-side linebacker. Former high school quarterback with the change of direction and speed to be a rangy playmaker. Comfortable in space and excels there. Has plus man cover talent. Willing to stand in and take on blockers with a leveraged strike if his gap is being threatened. Capable gap blitzer with ability to get skinny through the holes.

WEAKNESSES

Smallish linebacker. Play strength doesn't come close to matching puffed up listed weight. Balance issues at point of attack could plague him over his NFL career. Has the body type of a big safety. Tape shows few authoritative tackles. Involved in too many arm and shoestring tackles. Comes flying in and fails to come to balance at times. Charged with 21 missed and five broken tackles over the last two seasons. Always at size disadvantage and will have to learn to slip more blocks. Can get better at finding targets in zone coverage.

NFL COMPARISON

Zach Brown

BOTTOM LINE

Lee's level of NFL success might very well be tied to scheme fit and his ability to add more muscle to his frame. His athletic traits and ability to make plays should make him a starter, but he won't unlock his full potential unless he gets strong enough to handle the rigors of an NFL linebacker.
 
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Mainejet

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Even if 2017 is a lost season (and it probably is), it would be nice to see TE become a regular target for the QB? It's been so long since the Jets offense utilized a TE, that I think most of have forgotten what it looks like? ASJ appears to want it more than he ever has. Jordan Leggett has tons of potential.
 
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