Countdown to petty

[mykcuz]

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Fitzpatrick is the only option. The fans screaming for Bryce Petty are delusional. He's not ready to start a game in the NFL. Repeat: He's NOT READY! He returned to practice only two weeks ago after rehabbing a preseason shoulder injury, and we're talking about a second-year quarterback whose next regular-season snap will be his first. The Jets (2-5) have three games before the bye week. If they're 2-8, it'll be time to see what Petty can do. But not now. Fitzpatrick is the right call for Sunday's game in Cleveland.

I'm a Fitz fan, not because I think he's the next Gannon or Testaverde, but because I thought he was the perfect bridge quarterback for this team. Whether it was 1 year or 2, and that he would be a great backup on this team once another qb took over. He's a great teammate and it shows,and he's a great mentor. Petty will benefit from watching Fitz be a leader.

I'm all for petty, but I believe I'm more realistic than many on this board calling for him to be put on a field just because Fitz is having a bad season. There's 2 parts to the equation, the qb ahead of petty on the depth chart had to lose the job, and petty had to be ready to take over. If that's today,great, but I'm not advocating rushing him if he's not ready. These aren't scrimmages,this is real football.

Petty is going to do what rookies do, including holding the ball too long,and messing up reads. I don't want the potential future of this team in a hospital from a blindside hit in a meaningless season.

Let's not forget, fans were also clamouring for Greg McElroy.

If petty isn't ready (the opinion of everyone around him) the best option is to have Fitz play and develop our young wrs, while petty develops concurrently as the number 2 in practice. Then the qb and wrs can be united when they ate better prepared.

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[TebowCan'tThrow]

Well I will countdown every second to seeing Petty and moving on from Fitz. I've always hated Fitz as a QB. I rode the wave until week 17. Then I saw the same old Fitz. We are about to hit the part of the season that Fitz shows that he can beat crap teams. I believe Petty could beat these same teams and get valuable experience. Fitz just delays the process and nothing good comes from him playing. He is and always will be a backup QB. If he is a bridge for two games max then I'm fine with that.

 

[lounap23]

It's funny everyone thinks they know what the CS and FO office's opinion is on Petty or they have their own opinion and he isn't more than a backup... Yet the Jets chose to carry 4 QBs even when he was injured and not cut him like many assumed he might or should... Could have probably placed him on the IR to save a roster spot for the season if they chose to try and keep developing him and give Hack a few more reps all season as the #3... Yet they chose to keep him on the roster, chose not to put him on IR.... I am sorry I don't care what any reporter or other people think outside the organization... Obviously the CS and FO see him differently then they do or a least they see enough to give him a shot; a shot lot of ppl don't think he should get.

Everyone knows I am fan of Petty so I hope this kid lights it up....

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

It's funny everyone thinks they know what the CS and FO office's opinion is on Petty or they have their own opinion and he isn't more than a backup... Yet the Jets chose to carry 4 QBs even when he was injured and not cut him like many assumed he might or should... Could have probably placed him on the IR to save a roster spot for the season if they chose to try and keep developing him and give Hack a few more reps all season as the #3... Yet they chose to keep him on the roster, chose not to put him on IR.... I am sorry I don't care what any reporter or other people think outside the organization... Obviously the CS and FO see him differently then they do or a least they see enough to give him a shot; a shot lot of ppl don't think he should get.

Everyone knows I am fan of Petty so I hope this kid lights it up....

Don't forget the Vikings reportedly inquired about Petty when Tedy went down.

 

[isired]

It's funny everyone thinks they know what the CS and FO office's opinion is on Petty or they have their own opinion and he isn't more than a backup... Yet the Jets chose to carry 4 QBs even when he was injured and not cut him like many assumed he might or should... Could have probably placed him on the IR to save a roster spot for the season if they chose to try and keep developing him and give Hack a few more reps all season as the #3... Yet they chose to keep him on the roster, chose not to put him on IR.... I am sorry I don't care what any reporter or other people think outside the organization... Obviously the CS and FO see him differently then they do or a least they see enough to give him a shot; a shot lot of ppl don't think he should get.

Everyone knows I am fan of Petty so I hope this kid lights it up....

How could they continue to develop him if they put him on IR? Might as well cut him if he wasn't going to practice with the team all year, you're not going to carry a 4th round project into year 3 with a year of inactivity under his belt.

 

[lounap23]

How could they continue to develop him if they put him on IR? Might as well cut him if he wasn't going to practice with the team all year, you're not going to carry a 4th round project into year 3 with a year of inactivity under his belt.

He can't practice with the team on IR but he can study film with the QB's. Understand gameplan - read defenses etc...... He can definitely still be developing if he was on IR....

 

[NewMFS62]

You can't develop footwork by watching film.

Later

 

[mykcuz]

He can't practice with the team on IR but he can study film with the QB's. Understand gameplan - read defenses etc...... He can definitely still be developing if he was on IR....

You can certainly see that being on the field and playing is more beneficial than watching film.

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[lounap23]

You can certainly see that being on the field and playing is more beneficial than watching film.

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The argument was not what is more beneficial but how can he develop on IR....

Bottom lime is the point is the Jets CS and FO see more in Petty than some so called experts.. And honestly he was clearly the better QB in training camp than Geno and Hack... And no one can deny he had great chemistry with Peake and Anderson.. with all that said if Fitz can keep from imploding anymore then he already has for another couple of weeks I think will go a long way in the Jets getting Petty to start this year.

 

[mykcuz]

The argument was not what is more beneficial but how can he develop on IR....

Bottom lime is the point is the Jets CS and FO see more in Petty than some so called experts.. And honestly he was clearly the better QB in training camp than Geno and Hack... And no one can deny he had great chemistry with Peake and Anderson.. with all that said if Fitz can keep from imploding anymore then he already has for another couple of weeks I think will go a long way in the Jets getting Petty to start this year.

No, you originally said they could save a roster spot by putting him on Ir and continuing to develop him. If you want to develop petty, you put him in practice with living breathing nfl teammates.

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[mykcuz]

It's funny everyone thinks they know what the CS and FO office's opinion is on Petty or they have their own opinion and he isn't more than a backup... Yet the Jets chose to carry 4 QBs even when he was injured and not cut him like many assumed he might or should... Could have probably placed him on the IR to save a roster spot for the season if they chose to try and keep developing him and give Hack a few more reps all season as the #3... Yet they chose to keep him on the roster, chose not to put him on IR.... I am sorry I don't care what any reporter or other people think outside the organization... Obviously the CS and FO see him differently then they do or a least they see enough to give him a shot; a shot lot of ppl don't think he should get.

Everyone knows I am fan of Petty so I hope this kid lights it up....

Could have probably placed him on the IR to save a roster spot for the season if they chose to try and keep developing him and give Hack a few more reps all season as the #3... Yet they chose to keep him on the roster, chose not to put him on IR..

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[isired]

The argument was not what is more beneficial but how can he develop on IR....

I find it hard to believe that anyone making a living related to NFL personnel decisions would suggest that you sign a project QB in round 4 of a draft class that isn't particularly deep at QB, and keep him off the field in year 2 of his contract. I think one reason they carried 4 QBs is because you can't take on a project like Petty and cast him off when you knew he wasn't likely to contribute year 2.

Bottom lime is the point is the Jets CS and FO see more in Petty than some so called experts.. And honestly he was clearly the better QB in training camp than Geno and Hack... And no one can deny he had great chemistry with Peake and Anderson.

Most of this is true, albeit through the lens of playing against defenders who are free on Sundays this fall.

I'm not saying Petty won't be a competent backup or starter, I'm just saying we don't know - and when you take a kid like Petty, who looks great on paper, you need to see him get as many reps as you can as long as you can until you know. Would love to see him get some quality in-game reps this season.

 

[lounap23]

I find it hard to believe that anyone making a living related to NFL personnel decisions would suggest that you sign a project QB in round 4 of a draft class that isn't particularly deep at QB, and keep him off the field in year 2 of his contract. I think one reason they carried 4 QBs is because you can't take on a project like Petty and cast him off when you knew he wasn't likely to contribute year 2.


Most of this is true, albeit through the lens of playing against defenders who are free on Sundays this fall.

I'm not saying Petty won't be a competent backup or starter, I'm just saying we don't know - and when you take a kid like Petty, who looks great on paper, you need to see him get as many reps as you can as long as you can until you know. Would love to see him get some quality in-game reps this season.

That's my exact point

 

[lounap23]

No, you originally said they could save a roster spot by putting him on Ir and continuing to develop him. If you want to develop petty, you put him in practice with living breathing nfl teammates.

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I was saying that as aother options they had other than carrying 4 QB's in my argument for how they must think more of Petty than everyone outside the organization...

My argument, and maybe I poorly stated my point, was the Jets FO and CS coming out of training camp think enough of Petty to want to see him develop and keep him in the mix to be the starter come 2017.. Fitz imploding might be expediting that thought process

 

[Old#15]

I'd rather see Fitz screw up than have the Jets rushing and ruining another young unprepared QB. I have to agree with Costello on this:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/25/how-jets-are-trying-to-right-geno-smith-mistake-with-bryce-petty/

It also would not surprise me if we have the same 3 QBs in camp next year that we have currently. There will be a 'competition', but my guess is that one of the 2 young'ins will beat out Fitz and he will be a $5 million mentor. It wouldn't bother me at all if Hack didn't play until his 3rd year, as long as Petty finally takes over next year. Fitz should be for emergency use only, and since his $5 M is guaranteed keep him on the roster.

 

[usapaw]

I'd rather see Fitz screw up than have the Jets rushing and ruining another young unprepared QB. I have to agree with Costello on this:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/25/how-jets-are-trying-to-right-geno-smith-mistake-with-bryce-petty/

It also would not surprise me if we have the same 3 QBs in camp next year that we have currently. There will be a 'competition', but my guess is that one of the 2 young'ins will beat out Fitz and he will be a $5 million mentor. It wouldn't bother me at all if Hack didn't play until his 3rd year, as long as Petty finally takes over next year. Fitz should be for emergency use only, and since his $5 M is guaranteed keep him on the roster.

Like this guy knows sh*t? Same guy probably wrote an article about why didn't the JETs pick one of the rookies now starting for another franchise?
What will be the excuse next year? Knowing this sad sack of a franchise they will cut him and he starts for another team for 8 years.
So you agree to just tank games with Fitz if he plays his "average" and the rest of the team doesn't make up for his mistakes? Did you not see the team come to life and start playing again when Geno was in there? Was Geno doing anything great; no. The players have obviously lost all faith in Fitz and will just go through the motion, IMO.

 

[lounap23]

I'd rather see Fitz screw up than have the Jets rushing and ruining another young unprepared QB. I have to agree with Costello on this:

http://nypost.com/2016/10/25/how-jets-are-trying-to-right-geno-smith-mistake-with-bryce-petty/

It also would not surprise me if we have the same 3 QBs in camp next year that we have currently. There will be a 'competition', but my guess is that one of the 2 young'ins will beat out Fitz and he will be a $5 million mentor. It wouldn't bother me at all if Hack didn't play until his 3rd year, as long as Petty finally takes over next year. Fitz should be for emergency use only, and since his $5 M is guaranteed keep him on the roster.

Barring some miracle run over the next 9 games... and miracle run means Fitz wins at least 8 games.. Throws 25 TD with 2 ints and for about 2700yds.... Ain't a chance in hell Fitz is on this team next year....

The reality is we will find out what we have in Petty.... If he shows he is not the guy to be the starter we likely acquire a guy like Cutler or maybe even a Romo to bridge the gap to Hackenberg with Petty still as the backup for 1 more year...

Likely, Petty will the starter... Jets will sign a veteran FA backup and Hack continues to sit and learn to make his move in 2018...

 

[lounap23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5g8kT6d-Zc

You have to love him coming out of college... You gotta love his work ethic to his craft..... Which he has continued since being drafted

 

[lounap23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTqhAFzdmZU

Great draft day Breakdown of Petty in this one and a real nice look at him with Gruden below

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http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft20...ft-jon-gruden-shares-observations-bryce-petty

 

[Old#15]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTqhAFzdmZU

Great draft day Breakdown of Petty in this one and a real nice look at him with Gruden below

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http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft20...ft-jon-gruden-shares-observations-bryce-petty

That is some great stuff on Petty. I just hope he is ready when they finally give him his chance. It could be as early as this week, and if so, I sincerely hope he crushes it. That would be the best news that this organization has had in decades, QB-wise that is.