Cursed franchise!!!

[jets82]

I am throughorly convinced this franchise is the place where old washed vets come to die, EVENTUALLY!!! They don’t die immediately because it seems to be the place they come and mysteriously their careers get re-energized. Whether they were ever excellent QBs in the first place or just reject backups holding onto their NFL careers. They come to this team and automatically they become what they once were or never was and that hasn’t panned out well for this franchise.

Testerverde we came very close to true success but didn’t pan out. By the way he never really lived up to his talent in the NFL prior to becoming a Jet. Farve is a first ballot and played like a beast franchise guy his entire career for the most part. Came to the Jets and if he wouldn’t of gotten hurt who knows but he did. Odonell was a guy who had some success in Pittsburgh but was just tagging along mainly. Came to the Jets and flopped. Fitzpatrick and now McCown were always backups just simply surviving and now they come here and blow up. For the first year but the second Fitzpatrick flopped and so will McCown.

Point being here is this all a mirage with McCown and the Jets will be dumb enough to drink the water. Their already dumb to keep playing him when we clearly aren’t making the playoffs. Even if they won 9 games, which they won’t it won’t be enough to make the playoffs. But the Jets will continue to play him and think he’s the answer next year like they did with Fitzpatrick and it will fail.

The Jets appear to be a cursed franchise because only cursed franchises fall for shit like this. Only cursed franchises will take the bait that they don’t really need to find a young franchise QB. They will continue to go with these retread vets without drafting and starting immediately that franchise guy. Or drafting and developing that franchise guy. Don’t get me wrong, they have tried it but it just hasn’t worked out like it did with other franchises like Dallas, GB, NE, Giants, Pittsburgh, LA (both teams), Seattle, Phila, Oak, Houston etc-etc...

Point being, it has happened with majority of the league except for a few teams and the Jets are one of them. What makes it worse for the Jets is they can’t even do it right. If your going to suck then just suck!!! No, they will fight to very end for that 5-11 or 7-9 record just to not make the playoffs anyway and not be able to draft that franchise QB without giving up the farm for them. Or even worse, that franchise QB will be staring them right in the face and they won’t draft him, Dak for someone like Hack and we see how that turned out. That is just one example but there are many more. The closest the Jets ever come to doing it correctly was Testerverde and Pennington but injuries killed that.

IMO the Jets are a cursed franchise and may never break it. So they won today, so what!!! What exactly is that supposed to mean but a 5-7 record and a lost hope for a season that will fail regardless. I’m not just being a Debbie downer here, I’m speaking facts and you guys know it. This team will not make the playoffs, so why the hell are they playing McCown and not the younger QBs? It makes absolutely no sense and I’m just so done with this damn team. I’m so sick and tired of this team, I just don’t know what to do anymore!!!

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I had this same thought at beginning of season. Then they played well so I hoped for a run. Then they couldn't finish and now there is no hope of a playoff run realistically so I agree they cursed. I have decided I don't care what they do win or lose. Play Petty or don't.

 

[gmf1369]

IMO the Jets are a cursed franchise and may never break it. So they won today, so what!!! What exactly is that supposed to mean but a 5-7 record and lost hope for a season that will fail regardless. I’m not just being a Donnie downer here, I’m speaking facts and you guys know it. This team will not make the playoffs, so why the hell are they playing McCown and not the younger QBs? It makes absolutely no sense and I’m just so done with this fam team. I’m so sick and tired of this team, I just don’t know what to do anymore!!!

the point is we now have players on the upswing instead of mediocrity that has been almost forever... Robby Anderson entered this season as a fast receiver but everyone and mean everyone from true fans to foes and media sorts stating he is not a true number one receiver... But he has showed not only he has the potential but he is proving his worth every game not once in awhile when he feels like playing... then we have Kearse who has been a steal of a deal shipping Richardson to Seattle acquiring him and he has taken the pressure off of RA allowing both of them to produce... If or when Q comes back that would give us a trio at a position that has its ups and downs over the last decade at least...

ASJ has been something of sorts positive even with those couple over turned touchdowns... We know we have a solid RB group the only issue is we need to sew up this O-Line's depth and future pieces...

Potential sews up this season... There are NO guarantees that Rosen, Darnold, will enter the draft... Allen and Mayfield will likely go higher than their initial values... Building a team is not sexy but we have potential, the team is playing for their coaches and each other... To me that is a winning formula moving forward...

Complaining because you think Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, Allen are now ungettable is absurd... After this season we could make a few deals adding draft picks to maneuver in the draft up or down, there is no guarantees nowadays...

this free agency has some gems and we have cap space to make moves... so the future regardless of our record is bright not cursed...

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Maybe these wins can lead to culture change. Doubt it, but maybe. I will cautiously hope.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

At the end of the day they are a below mediocre team at 5-7. Maybe its a building block or like it usually is with the Jets its a mirage.

 

[gmf1369]

Maybe these wins can lead to culture change. Doubt it, but maybe. I will cautiously hope.

look I know it is frustrating but look at this season, a young franchise fighting, competing and striving to win... remove either by trade or release a few players, sign our own free agents, tender our RFAs and begin again next year knowing we can do it, is something for this team to look forward too... the losses are frustrating BUT, this team hasn't packed it in yet and I don't think they will...

playoffs, at this point I am watching with one eye on the other teams in the hunt but the focus is the preparation each week, execution and fire I see in this team...

regardless is McCown comes back, eventually turn the keys over to Petty or Hack... trade up in the draft to draft a QB to start eventually... Sign Drew Brees in free agency, whatever... I am watching and enjoying to see these players not only having fun, but looking good doing so...

 

[mydogisajetsfan]

look I know it is frustrating but look at this season, a young franchise fighting, competing and striving to win... remove either by trade or release a few players, sign our own free agents, tender our RFAs and begin again next year knowing we can do it, is something for this team to look forward too... the losses are frustrating BUT, this team hasn't packed it in yet and I don't think they will...

playoffs, at this point I am watching with one eye on the other teams in the hunt but the focus is the preparation each week, execution and fire I see in this team...

regardless is McCown comes back, eventually turn the keys over to Petty or Hack... trade up in the draft to draft a QB to start eventually... Sign Drew Brees in free agency, whatever... I am watching and enjoying to see these players not only having fun, but looking good doing so...

Completely agree with this post gmf. Does anyone really think that going 1-15 or 2-14 would move this franchise forward? It would mean a new coach and probably a new GM...again. That makes no sense. Macagnnan is finding good players. These guys are young and hungry and most importantly pieces are falling into place. The defense needs a #1 cornerback, a rushing OLB and they could be great. Leo, Adams, Maye, Jenkins and even Darren Lee are talented young players. Demario Davis is solid if not spectacular. Mo must go.

Mac found Robby Anderson and ASJ last year. Eric Tomlinson is a terrific role player and Leggett may be a player. Eli McGuire may be the best player in last years draft picked after the third round. A big #1 receiver would make this WR group elite. Mac must build a better OL and I think that will be the focus in free agency and the draft. Trading Sheldon for Kearse and a second was brilliant. If he gets another Mark Maye with that pick it could be the best trade the Jets ever made.

As for the QB situation, just remember, Derek Carr, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson and others were drafted at or later than the Jets will be picking this season. Some way after. Personally I would love to have Baker Mayfield on this team to learn for 2 seasons.

Lastly, I think Bowles has done a terrific job with very limited veteran talent. This is a young team on the rise. I'm excited.

 

[Elias]

Completely agree with this post gmf. Does anyone really think that going 1-15 or 2-14 would move this franchise forward? It would mean a new coach and probably a new GM...again. That makes no sense. Macagnnan is finding good players. These guys are young and hungry and most importantly pieces are falling into place. The defense needs a #1 cornerback, a rushing OLB and they could be great. Leo, Adams, Maye, Jenkins and even Darren Lee are talented young players. Demario Davis is solid if not spectacular. Mo must go.

Mac found Robby Anderson and ASJ last year. Eric Tomlinson is a terrific role player and Leggett may be a player. Eli McGuire may be the best player in last years draft picked after the third round. A big #1 receiver would make this WR group elite. Mac must build a better OL and I think that will be the focus in free agency and the draft. Trading Sheldon for Kearse and a second was brilliant. If he gets another Mark Maye with that pick it could be the best trade the Jets ever made.

As for the QB situation, just remember, Derek Carr, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson and others were drafted at or later than the Jets will be picking this season. Some way after. Personally I would love to have Baker Mayfield on this team to learn for 2 seasons.

Lastly, I think Bowles has done a terrific job with very limited veteran talent. This is a young team on the rise. I'm excited.

Agreed. Besides the first two games of this season this young team has competed. I was upset at first when McCown was the starter but at least he's giving us entertaining games. People will only improve. We need to add more pieces. We have the money and draft picks to really get to the next level.

 

[jets82]

To each his own fellas. You guys can be all caught up in this bogus mirage if you want but not me. I’m not even watching the games and don’t think I will until they draft a franchise QB. I’ll be watching real team with real young franchise QBs like Dallas, Phila, Oak, Indy for ex.. Don’t get me wrong, the competing and all is great but the concept here is all wrong. If they were doing this with Hack or Petty, I’d be all in. Reinstated my expensive ass NFL ticket and screaming at the TV for every win possible but not with McCown. Not with a 38 year vet who was never really that good in the first place!!! I learned my lesson from the Fitzpatrick garbage.

Which should tell us all about Hack and Petty. Either one should be on the field right now and since game one but since they’re not, that should tell us all there isn’t any future with either of them. Beating out McCown should have been a cake walk but neither could do it so that ship has sailed. Guess I answered my own argument as to why McCown is playing and neither of them aren’t. Damn!!! Anyway, let me know when the Jets draft a real franchise QB. I’ll even take trading or signing one in free agency, as long as the QB is a young guy that the team can build around and with.

There is no building with McCown so why is he playing with such a young team? Oh wait, it’s because Hack and Petty are garbage as hell. Sad part is these idiots will think at the end of this season no matter what their record is that McCown is the answer. They’ll think they won’t need to trade up to draft a guy. They’ll draft another 3 year project in the 4th round that turns out to be a bust. Nah, I’ve learned my lesson from all of this with this franchise. Let me know when they draft a real franchise QB, if they ever do and I’ll be all back in!!! Other then that, I could care less what they do and I won’t be watching.

 

[gmf1369]

There is no building with McCown so why is he playing with such a young team? Oh wait, it’s because Hack and Petty are garbage as hell. Sad part is these idiots will think at the end of this season no matter what their record is that McCown is the answer. They’ll think they won’t need to trade up to draft a guy. They’ll draft another 3 year project in the 4th round that turns out to be a bust. Nah, I’ve learned my lesson from all of this with this franchise. Let me know when they draft a real franchise QB, if they ever do and I’ll be all back in!!! Other then that, I could care less less what they do and I won’t be watching.

there is building with a veteran QB at the helm... players like Kearse, RA, ASJ have evolved their individual games and it is because they have a veteran leader that knows the system... I understand your hesitance but the proof is on the field, you don't have to watch games to know that this team is fighting to win... regardless if McCown comes back next year is a moot point right now... it doesn't matter if the team makes the playoffs, the only way to insert either of those two quarterbacks or draft someone to be the guy is to surround him or them with talent and now moving forward the growth of RA, the steady play from Kearse and the overall demeanor from both ASJ and Tomlinson would give any QB (young or rookie) confidence even when things aren't going well...

not to mention we have an outstanding young back in McGuire who is shining along side Forte and Powell... can not go from a nightmare season like last year and become Super Bowl contenders overnight... this team was stated to have the worst receiving corp heading into this year and they have out shined the critics not mention how many games they said we were going to win, yeah zero...

baby steps moving forward, we know we have talent, we need that talent to grow so the TEAM can evolve as a whole and this year proving the naysayers and accomplishing many feats along the way to an enjoyable season even if we are 5-7 at the moment...

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

And now the Jets have the 11th pick. Couple more wins and I have no faith in Mac to make a good selection in the late teens. He can only draft if he is in 6th spot and a stud drops to him. The problem with this year is this team is growing with a 38 year old QB. They will be doing the same thing next year and still be mediocre at best. I'm happy they aren't terrible, but I'm tired of mediocre.

 

[jets82]

And now the Jets have the 11th pick. Couple more wins and I have no faith in Mac to make a good selection in the late teens. He can only draft if he is in 6th spot and a stud drops to him. The problem with this year is this team is growing with a 38 year old QB. They will be doing the same thing next year and still be mediocre at best. I'm happy they aren't terrible, but I'm tired of mediocre.

Me too and that’s all I’m saying but I won’t stand for it anymore. If I could honestly drop this team PERIOD and become a pick your choice: Cowboys, Eagles, Colts, Raiders, Seahawks, Titans, Texans, Panthers, Rams or Buccaneers fan I would. I’m not the quitting type and I just can’t drop this team to that extent. Doesn’t mean I have to watch and root for these bastards until they start doing things the right way. This team has shown for years that they can build a winning team but just can’t get a franchise QB to complete it. So this means all this is doing is building talent (True) but still waisting it because they’ll never find that last piece to put it all together. A franchise QB!!!

 

[jets82]

there is building with a veteran QB at the helm... players like Kearse, RA, ASJ have evolved their individual games and it is because they have a veteran leader that knows the system... I understand your hesitance but the proof is on the field, you don't have to watch games to know that this team is fighting to win... regardless if McCown comes back next year is a moot point right now... it doesn't matter if the team makes the playoffs, the only way to insert either of those two quarterbacks or draft someone to be the guy is to surround him or them with talent and now moving forward the growth of RA, the steady play from Kearse and the overall demeanor from both ASJ and Tomlinson would give any QB (young or rookie) confidence even when things aren't going well...

not to mention we have an outstanding young back in McGuire who is shining along side Forte and Powell... can not go from a nightmare season like last year and become Super Bowl contenders overnight... this team was stated to have the worst receiving corp heading into this year and they have out shined the critics not mention how many games they said we were going to win, yeah zero...

baby steps moving forward, we know we have talent, we need that talent to grow so the TEAM can evolve as a whole and this year proving the naysayers and accomplishing many feats along the way to an enjoyable season even if we are 5-7 at the moment...

Problem is all this talent building and coming together will mean nothing without that final piece and the Jets can just never seem to get that piece. No matter what they do, it will mean nothing without that franchise QB. Please contact me when and if they get one. Please!!!

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I will say I'm pretty proud of the job that has been done so far, but its a mirage. McCown can't play better than he is now and we all know he can play way worse.

 

[jets82]

I will say I'm pretty proud of the job that has been done so far, but its a mirage. McCown can't play better than he is now and we all know he can play way worse.

There is no bright side to this Jets faithful, there just isn’t. Whatever the Jets are doing to this point means nothing without a franchise QB. This isn’t the 60’s or 70’s where you didn’t really need a franchise QB. Back then teams were winning SBs without that franchise QB because they ran the ball primarily and played defense with a violence that is unheard of these days. This is now a passing league and way to advanced to win without that guy. Over the past 20-30 years there have been 2-3 teams at most to win a SB without that guy. So what would make anyone here think we can do it without that guy???

 

[Jet Fan RI]

Look, it doesn't have to be this way. How did the Packers get Rodgers while having Favre on the roster? Lots of good teams continue to pick up good QB's despite having good records. You don't have to tank to get a good QB in the draft. The Browns keep tanking. How is that working out for them? I hope the Jets win every game they play.

 

[jets82]

Look, it doesn't have to be this way. How did the Packers get Rodgers while having Favre on the roster? Lots of good teams continue to pick up good QB's despite having good records. You don't have to tank to get a good QB in the draft. The Browns keep tanking. How is that working out for them? I hope the Jets win every game they play.

It isn’t working out for the Browns because they are even more stupid then the Jets. They will have that top pick but continue to trade it away when they could of had Wentz or Watson and many others by now. That is stupid to the highest extent. I would like to think if the Jets record was that bad to get that top three pick, they would have drafted one of these guys but then again... we are talking about the Jets so who really knows!!!

Note: to answer your question about Rodgers, they lucked up and he fell in their laps because the 49ers were idiots that year and drafted A. Smith when Rodgers was clearly the number one guy. The 49ers to me get a pass for that because of all the success with Montana, Young and Smith wasn’t that horrible of a pick. Just no where as good as it would have been if they drafted Rodgers.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Look, it doesn't have to be this way. How did the Packers get Rodgers while having Favre on the roster? Lots of good teams continue to pick up good QB's despite having good records. You don't have to tank to get a good QB in the draft. The Browns keep tanking. How is that working out for them? I hope the Jets win every game they play.

The Jets are the exact same when it comes to drafting QB's. Nobody wants to be the Browns yet the Jets are a mediocre version of them.

 

[Jet Fan RI]

It isn’t working out for the Browns because they are even more stupid then the Jets. They will have that top pick but continue to trade it away when they could of had Wentz or Watson and many others by now. That is stupid to the highest extent. I would like to think if the Jets record was that bad to get that top three pick, they would have drafted one of these guys but then again... we are talking about the Jets so who really knows!!!

Note: to answer your question about Rodgers, they lucked up and he fell in their laps because the 49ers were idiots that year and drafted A. Smith when Rodgers was clearly the number one guy. The 49ers to me get a pass for that because of all the success with Montana, Young and Smith wasn’t that horrible of a pick. Just no where as good as it would have been if they drafted Rodgers.

Well. yes and no. The Packers still had to make the pick, and they did. When Marino fell into the Jets' laps, they didn't make the pick. It isn't just luck. You have to know what you are doing. The Jets don't.

 

[USANYJ]

It isn’t working out for the Browns because they are even more stupid then the Jets. They will have that top pick but continue to trade it away when they could of had Wentz or Watson and many others by now. That is stupid to the highest extent. I would like to think if the Jets record was that bad to get that top three pick, they would have drafted one of these guys but then again... we are talking about the Jets so who really knows!!!

Note: to answer your question about Rodgers, they lucked up and he fell in their laps because the 49ers were idiots that year and drafted A. Smith when Rodgers was clearly the number one guy. The 49ers to me get a pass for that because of all the success with Montana, Young and Smith wasn’t that horrible of a pick. Just no where as good as it would have been if they drafted Rodgers.

I'm one who contends that this season will be one we look at as a failure in a big picture kind of setting. Sure, this team has been fun to watch and all, but you're 5-7. Probably beat the broncos. Then lose the rest. So you're looking at 6-10. Everyone can say all they want about it being a fun year and we outplayed expectations, but you're still 6-10. and if you're 6-10, I'd rather be 4-12 or 3-13. The jets pick 11 now. Top two are browns and giants. Most definitely will be taking the top qbs.

I say this season will be looked at as a failure in the big picture because right now everyone feels good. but come draft day when the jets miss out on the top Qb's and take a cornerback again, everyone will be screaming to high heaven. Then all this feel good nonsense will go away and we will be right back to square one. 80 mil in cap space to get a number 1 wr and improve the oline, all to have josh mccown at qb, which gets you no where.

Getting a stud qb or one to develop (which who knows if they can do that) is and should be the top priority. Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph, Jackson. All have their flaws, but one of them better be on the jets roster next year. Because McCown will not continue this at age 38 and Hack and Petty seem to be guys that will never develop. As has been stated before, I'm tired o mediocrity and im tired of putting lipstick on a pig and saying it will be alright. Stop trying to sell me that anothers team garbage is the answer. It's time to take serious steps to find the future. And Mccown has screwed that up to a point.