Dead part of the year

[Elias]

No football, combine doesn't start until the end of the month, free agency is not here yet.

One thing that has brought some confidence for next season, at least for me, is the fact that the Broncos have shown you can win a super bowl without an elite quarterback. You need to have a top defense. Let's see if Bowles and Mac can add to this talented team in the off season!

 

[LGM]

No football, combine doesn't start until the end of the month, free agency is not here yet.

One thing that has brought some confidence for next season, at least for me, is the fact that the Broncos have shown you can win a super bowl without an elite quarterback. You need to have a top defense. Let's see if Bowles and Mac can add to this talented team in the off season!

Lets go Rangers

Lets go Mets

The only Jet question right now is the over/under date on kicking Punchy Smith to the curb

February 20

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[TebowCan'tThrow]

No football, combine doesn't start until the end of the month, free agency is not here yet.

One thing that has brought some confidence for next season, at least for me, is the fact that the Broncos have shown you can win a super bowl without an elite quarterback. You need to have a top defense. Let's see if Bowles and Mac can add to this talented team in the off season!

Well we are way closer to having an elite defense then having anything close to an elite QB.

 

[the Claw]

Aussie Rules is starting up in a few weeks. Best game in the world and fills the void left by no NFL.

But yes, improve the defense and this team can win in the playoffs.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

No football, combine doesn't start until the end of the month, free agency is not here yet.

One thing that has brought some confidence for next season, at least for me, is the fact that the Broncos have shown you can win a super bowl without an elite quarterback. You need to have a top defense. Let's see if Bowles and Mac can add to this talented team in the off season!

These next four weeks are brutal. It truly is the Dead Zone.

To your point about defense, the Broncos beat the Panthers with the same strategy as the Giants vs NE: get tons of pressure on the main playmaker (Brady and Newton) and beat them up all day long. The Jets have the backbone in place with the line, now they just need the punisher coming off the edge.

Easier said than done. They're hard to find.

 

[ucrenegade]

my excitement in football is heavily waning the last month or two can't explain it

 

[Mainejet]

No football, combine doesn't start until the end of the month, free agency is not here yet.

One thing that has brought some confidence for next season, at least for me, is the fact that the Broncos have shown you can win a super bowl without an elite quarterback. You need to have a top defense. Let's see if Bowles and Mac can add to this talented team in the off season!

Yeah, well we don't have an elite QB, but we also do not have an elite defense. Denver's defensive pedigree put the Jets to shame. We just do not have the personnel necessary to play like that. And even if we did, I don't believe Bowles and Rodgers have enough ingenious strategy like Wade Phillips managed.

Now I do believe in Mac and I do think with time the Jets will get the horses to play the big boy game, I just hope that by that time Bowles will understand what the hell he's doing.

 

[Elias]

Yeah, well we don't have an elite QB, but we also do not have an elite defense. Denver's defensive pedigree put the Jets to shame. We just do not have the personnel necessary to play like that. And even if we did, I don't believe Bowles and Rodgers have enough ingenious strategy like Wade Phillips managed.

Now I do believe in Mac and I do think with time the Jets will get the horses to play the big boy game, I just hope that by that time Bowles will understand what the hell he's doing.

We are probably closer to fielding an elite Defense than an elite QB. The way I see it, Fitz > Manning last year.

If our defense improves where we are a threat at rushing the passer, we can go far. I dont want to get my hopes up but things are looking up.

As for Bowles and Mac, year one was a success. I hope they can build on it. I am not passing judgment. You criticize the middle of the season where the team played like crap, however, you fail to give him credit for how he pulled the team together and got them out of the slump. Being a rookie, inexperienced coach, things can spiral out of your control rather quickly.

I hate to bring Rex Ryan into this because it is going to get you to go off on a tangent. But last year, the team felt like a complete team, everyone celebrating and rooting together. There was legit chemistry. I didn't feel that chemistry with the Jets teams even when we were winning under Rex. Rex Ryan put the defense against the offense too many times. It was one sided and it really felt like we were two different teams. Bowles is the perfect compliment to Rex. He's still a player's coach but is tough on the players if they disappoint him.

 

[Mainejet]

We are probably closer to fielding an elite Defense than an elite QB. The way I see it, Fitz > Manning last year.

If our defense improves where we are a threat at rushing the passer, we can go far. I dont want to get my hopes up but things are looking up.

As for Bowles and Mac, year one was a success. I hope they can build on it. I am not passing judgment. You criticize the middle of the season where the team played like crap, however, you fail to give him credit for how he pulled the team together and got them out of the slump. Being a rookie, inexperienced coach, things can spiral out of your control rather quickly.

I hate to bring Rex Ryan into this because it is going to get you to go off on a tangent. But last year, the team felt like a complete team, everyone celebrating and rooting together. There was legit chemistry. I didn't feel that chemistry with the Jets teams even when we were winning under Rex. Rex Ryan put the defense against the offense too many times. It was one sided and it really felt like we were two different teams. Bowles is the perfect compliment to Rex. He's still a player's coach but is tough on the players if they disappoint him.

But he didn't finish Elias, so where's the praise to be had? I agree that he made some changes and it started the team back in the right direction. But the finish, however, is the MOST disappointing thing. And years from now, when people think about this season, what are they going to remember? Jets fans, specifically, might remember the 5 game winning streak, but NOT any other fan.

They are going to remember thinking that the team looked like monsters. A team that was going to be a problem in the playoffs because they were healthy and playing their best football. Then, they are going to remember the team inexplicably playing like sh*t against their hated rival coach no less, and losing.

As far as I am concerned, if he wasn't going to beat the Bills and end the season the right way, then WTF is the point? It's almost a REQUIREMENT to finish the season the right way.

And there's actually some sense to be made out of that. We all know when any HC starts a job that the requirements are always a bit lax. It's like they are required to get a free pass? From there the expectations ALWAYS get harder and more lofty. They are NEVER going to get easier.

So when you go on a 5 game winning streak, albeit against a bunch of bottom feeders, you have to finish it the right way. You must finish it the right way.

Say what you want, but 10 years from now all anyone is going to remember is losing to Rex Ryan and the Bills on the last day of the season with the playoffs on the line.

 

[jetgreen13]

But he didn't finish Elias, so where's the praise to be had? I agree that he made some changes and it started the team back in the right direction. But the finish, however, is the MOST disappointing thing. And years from now, when people think about this season, what are they going to remember? Jets fans, specifically, might remember the 5 game winning streak, but NOT any other fan.

They are going to remember thinking that the team looked like monsters. A team that was going to be a problem in the playoffs because they were healthy and playing their best football. Then, they are going to remember the team inexplicably playing like sh*t against their hated rival coach no less, and losing.

As far as I am concerned, if he wasn't going to beat the Bills and end the season the right way, then WTF is the point? It's almost a REQUIREMENT to finish the season the right way.

And there's actually some sense to be made out of that. We all know when any HC starts a job that the requirements are always a bit lax. It's like they are required to get a free pass? From there the expectations ALWAYS get harder and more lofty. They are NEVER going to get easier.

So when you go on a 5 game winning streak, albeit against a bunch of bottom feeders, you have to finish it the right way. You must finish it the right way.

Say what you want, but 10 years from now all anyone is going to remember is losing to Rex Ryan and the Bills on the last day of the season with the playoffs on the line.

very fair points made in this post..

losing in buffalo week 17 was crushing & legitimately wiped off most of the shine of 10-6.. certainly did for me at least..

i believed we had a deep playoff run in us if we made it to the dance.. LOLz that said, i can't kid myself in believing we would have beaten denver, in denver (or at home for that matter) to get to the SB..

 

[Elias]

very fair points made in this post..

losing in buffalo week 17 was crushing & legitimately wiped off most of the shine of 10-6.. certainly did for me at least..

i believed we had a deep playoff run in us if we made it to the dance.. LOLz that said, i can't kid myself in believing we would have beaten denver, in denver (or at home for that matter) to get to the SB..

I agree on all points. You and MJ are right, the loss dampens any success we have had all of last season.

 

[isired]

But he didn't finish Elias, so where's the praise to be had? I agree that he made some changes and it started the team back in the right direction. But the finish, however, is the MOST disappointing thing. And years from now, when people think about this season, what are they going to remember? Jets fans, specifically, might remember the 5 game winning streak, but NOT any other fan.

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Say what you want, but 10 years from now all anyone is going to remember is losing to Rex Ryan and the Bills on the last day of the season with the playoffs on the line.

10 years from now most non-fans won't remember anything, let alone an individual game from the 2015 Jets season. Do you remember the Cowboys 2005 season? If anything, what they'll remember gotten 2015 is that we went 10-6 in Todd Bowles' first season, a big improvement from the previous year, that Fitz had a career year (hopefully his second-best year, behind 2016), probably that our original QB got his jaw broken by whats-his-name, that the Bills were a disappointment in their first year under Rex, that Denver surprised us all in the Super Bowl, that Cam was a sore loser, and that Peyton went out a winner.

But it was disappointing losing twice to Rex, losing to the Eagles, and missing the playoffs. And they have to improve, no doubt.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

The Jets problem wasn't isolated to the Bills. They put themselves in a tough position mid season with poor play. So in a tight AFC, they left themselves no margin for error. To expect the Jets to win their final six games were lofty expectations. They almost pulled it off. But having to go into Buffalo in bad weather was far from an ideal way to have to push their way into the playoffs. It's easy for fans to say "all you had to do was beat Buffalo". Beating a division opponent on the road is never easy.

 

[jetgreen13]

The Jets problem wasn't isolated to the Bills. They put themselves in a tough position mid season with poor play. So in a tight AFC, they left themselves no margin for error. To expect the Jets to win their final six games were lofty expectations. They almost pulled it off. But having to go into Buffalo in bad weather was far from an ideal way to have to push their way into the playoffs. It's easy for fans to say "all you had to do was beat Buffalo". Beating a division opponent on the road is never easy.

agreed..

but a double digit win team getting swept by a divisional opponent is unacceptable.. certainly with a playoff spot riding on winning in buffalo week 17..

 

[Mainejet]

agreed..

but a double digit win team getting swept by a divisional opponent is unacceptable.. certainly with a playoff spot riding on winning in buffalo week 17..

AGREED. The Jets played piss poor in a game they absolutely have no excuse for losing.

It's called stop making excuses and go out and make it happen. Make your own destiny. Todd Bowles needs to learn this or else he won't last long in NY. The EXPECTATION for this team (and that responsibility will fall directly on Todd Bowles) by the fans will be that this team makes the playoffs next season and probably wins at least one game in the playoffs. They'll be expected to win games against teams with a winning record. ANYTHING less will be considered a disappointment and depending on the severity of the disappointment, it could put Todd Bowles job is serious jeopardy.

 

[jetgreen13]

AGREED. The Jets played piss poor in a game they absolutely have no excuse for losing.

It's called stop making excuses and go out and make it happen. Make your own destiny. Todd Bowles needs to learn this or else he won't last long in NY. The EXPECTATION for this team (and that responsibility will fall directly on Todd Bowles) by the fans will be that this team makes the playoffs next season and probably wins at least one game in the playoffs. They'll be expected to win games against teams with a winning record. ANYTHING less will be considered a disappointment and depending on the severity of the disappointment, it could put Todd Bowles job is serious jeopardy.

hard to disagree with anything in this post aside from maybe the bolded..

aside from a absolute nose dive next season, i don't see bowles' job in imminent danger going into say year three?? not to say things can't change quickly in the NFL..

i'm still cautiously optimistic bowles is the goods..