Did Jets Out Perform Expectations?

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Just imagine before the season the vast majority of this fan base wanted Jeff Ullbrick fired . One draft and a few decent players later he gets a grade -A for his tenure as defensive coordinator.
Give LaFleur a halfway decent QB and his tenure just might improve also .

I remember when the Jets coached the Senior Bowl and their QB coach was the OC for the game . Nobody was saying how inexperienced he was back then.

The final meal is only as good as the ingredients you give the chef . A rotten tomato is simply a rotten tomato, not a bad chef .
Regarding the bolded, we already gave Lafleur a top prospect and look what happened. It's the QB coaches job to develop the QB and Lafleur's job to make sure that the QB coach is doing his job. Good QBs don't just fall out of a tree. ie Darnold is playing great right now albeit he hasn't improved past game manager level yet.

Let's talk about Ulbrick and the defense early in the season. He fixed it didn't he.
 

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I don’t think we even win that

And the Jags are playing for a division title tonite

While the good ole Jets need another year
At least that’s what we’re told
Blahahaha!!! I crack myself up
The good ole Jets don’t even have a QB
The Jets are in no mans land
Isn’t this fun
Well maybe they do already. Either way, they need to replace Flacco and draft another QB. Streveler will probably need to seek fame and fortune on the road to somewhere else.
 

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It’s amazing to me how this team offensively was on the cusp of doing something then lost the one guy who was leading the charge for the season and the fans can’t get over it . Shortly after that the team lost again for the season the guy who’s arguably the best player on offense in AVT but yet no understanding.
We got cheated, we got fooled yet again. This team was 5-2 before RB Hall got hurt despite the awful play at QB. . It was so bad that when Mike White started moving the ball we became overly excited.
Imagine if White had the ability to play with Hall and AVT and a half decent OL . That’s what Zack Wilson had for a few weeks and he made the most of it even playing the way he did .

It’s the NFL, and at that level you need talent to win . It’s why Joe Douglas has done what he has done the last 2 years . Trading up for AVT. Drafting Garrett Wilson and trading up for Breece Hall . It was working but they got hurt and it all fell apart. Nobody’s fault, just bad luck.

No need to chop anyone’s head off. The Jets know that the plan works, they just have to continue building like they have .
JD has also assembled one of the worst OL’s in the league. I don’t want him picking another QB.
 

Tinstar

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JD has also assembled one of the worst OL’s in the league. I don’t want him picking another QB.
Sorry but I do . This is one of the best rosters this franchise has had in forever. So he got the QB wrong, it happens. He drafted 2 linemen and signed 3 really.

Becton and AVT getting hurt isn’t the fault of the GM.
Fant played well until he injured his knee

McGovern has been a decent starter despite what fans think .

In his first year in NJ, Tomlinson has been a disaster but he’s under contract so let’s see how he responds. The guy was a pro bowler before signing here . If he doesn’t get his crap together then I cut bait before the start of the 2023 season .
Everyone makes mistakes, only fools repeat them and I don’t think Joe Douglas is a fool .
 

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No way in hell did they out performed expectations. With the 6-3 to 7-4 start they had, the expectations had to of change to playoffs or bust. If it wasn’t that in the first place. For me the Jets disappointed me just for this reason. Yes they sucked me in again!

I figured at the beginning of the season, 7-8 wins at most and 9 being the apex of it! Still with no playoffs regardless. But after 6-3 and 7-4 the expectations changed. How could they not? But just like the Jets to let us down as usual. Whether for legit reasons or not, it happens regardless!
 
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No way in hell did they out performed expectations. With the 6-3 to 7-4 start they had, the expectations had to of change to playoffs or bust. If it wasn’t that in the first place. For me the Jets disappointed me just for this reason. Yes they sucked me in again!

I figured at the beginning of the season, 7-8 wins at most and 9 being the apex of it! Still with playoffs regardless. But after 6-3 and 7-4 the expectations changed. How could they not? But just like the Jets to let us down as usual. Whether for legit reasons or not, it happens regardless!
Injuries played a major role in how our season ended and there’s no avoiding it. Doesn’t matter if we choose to accept it or not.
Maybe Wilson could have continued having Hall save his butt . Maybe with a healthy AVT Mike White doesn’t end the season with broken ribs in street clothes.
I si
Ply don’t understand how anyone can say the expectation changed when the team was 6-3 but didn’t when we lost our two best players on offense and it exposed our QB situation.
 

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No way in hell did they out performed expectations. With the 6-3 to 7-4 start they had, the expectations had to of change to playoffs or bust. If it wasn’t that in the first place. For me the Jets disappointed me just for this reason. Yes they sucked me in again!

I figured at the beginning of the season, 7-8 wins at most and 9 being the apex of it! Still with playoffs regardless. But after 6-3 and 7-4 the expectations changed. How could they not? But just like the Jets to let us down as usual. Whether for legit reasons or not, it happens regardless!
Well when Saleh said it’s not about playoffs, he sealed the fate of his collapse.
 

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I had low end 7, high end 9. They met my expectations, but barely. At one point, I thought they might actually exceed my expectations for once.

Then 0-6 happened.
 

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from 6-3 to 7-4 to complete collapse is the embodiment of same old jets & i'm literally getting angry as i post this..

****ing distasteful & i'm ****ing sick of this annual clown show bullshit..

frankly, i'm happy for all the teams that have taken advantage of the jets being the ****ing jets..
I get it, and as I mentioned in another thread, I somewhat feel the same.

I would point out, though, that if they started 0-6 or dug themselves a hole, and then went on a streak and ended 7-10, what would Jets fans say? They would say the team won after the games stopped mattering, and they went and wrecked a good draft pick after they were out of it.
 

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Free Agency: If we break the bank for a player or players. Get a young STUD!!! (FS, OLB, WR or QB). The DRAFT: (Rd #1: LEFT TACKLE!!), (Rd #2: RIGHT TACKLE, CENTER, OR RT GUARD). Quit playing around. The Offensive line is our # 2 problem. IMHO I would prefer a Center.

C is a big concern moving forward. I do think the Jets have something with Herbig. He can be a decent starter if he has the right supporting cast around him.

I'm not even considering Becton as a factor. If he does anything, it's gravy. Same with Mitchell. But if you draft a good LT and C, you at least can go:

First round pick LT
AVT
Second/third round pick C
Herbig

And then address RT somehow, hopefully with one of those two guys, but that will determine the direction.
 

Torus34

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This old couch potato wasn't disappointed by the New York Jets' performance this year. Going from league doormat to 7-10 wasn't exactly a stellar performance, but it was a good start toward better days. The old saying about a journey beginning with a single step's correct. One can end, though, depending upon what second step's taken.

What I did find disappointing was that Mr. Christopher Streveler wasn't activated and used as the QB in the final game. Mr. Flacco's a known. The Jets QB situation could be less murky given two hopefuls: Messrs White and Streveler. That would at least permit some available money to be spent on shoring up the offensive front 5 and perhaps finding some pass receivers who played catch as youngsters. The big lesson to be learned this year is that a QB is only as good as the team around him and the ability of the play caller to make best use of the entire unit's strengths.

And leave the Jets defensive squad alone. If they don't have to be on the field for 50 of the 60 minutes of a game, they'll do just fine.

The off-season will be interesting.

Love to 3.

Go, Gang Green!
 
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cheaterhater

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No. They didn’t exceed expectations. I expected them to let me down in some freakish way and they sure did. I expect the same next year.

I don’t wanna hear about injuries, every team, well, many teams deal with injuries. Supposed to be next man up attitude. Worked for the cheatahs for a long, long time
 

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I get it, and as I mentioned in another thread, I somewhat feel the same.

I would point out, though, that if they started 0-6 or dug themselves a hole, and then went on a streak and ended 7-10, what would Jets fans say? They would say the team won after the games stopped mattering, and they went and wrecked a good draft pick after they were out of it.
but they were not hypothetically 5-2 or 6-3 or 7-4.. that was their record with a real chance to make the playoffs for the 1st time in over a decade..

& this is not on the jet fanbase.. i can't/never could get my head around the framing that fanbase is inevitably the annual problem not the franchise itself..
 

McJet

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Regarding the bolded, we already gave Lafleur a top prospect and look what happened. It's the QB coaches job to develop the QB and Lafleur's job to make sure that the QB coach is doing his job. Good QBs don't just fall out of a tree. ie Darnold is playing great right now albeit he hasn't improved past game manager level yet.

Let's talk about Ulbrick and the defense early in the season. He fixed it didn't he.
Darnold wasn’t to great yesterday.
5-15 43 yds 0 TD 2 intos.
 

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Is there a future? Yes good players & I hope that sauce & his young stars can continue........second year there will be film on all of them, Lets see if we have another Revis or Gilligan's Isalnd
 

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They did and they didn't. Beginning of the Season they looked great as we all know. Loosing Breece and AVT turned a blossoming offense into a sputtering one.
After that.....well we all saw the result.
I would've loved to have seen what they could have been if those 2 guys didn't get hurt. Unfortunately injuries happen.
One that was found out is that Zach is not ready and may not ever be. I hope JD and Saleh are just talking Him up and are going to bring in a Veteran to hold it down until Zach improves or is jettisoned.
 
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