Draft Data Analysis for Jets

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Draft picks by position:
8 D-LINE
3 Line Backers
2 Quarter Backs
2 Tight Ends
1 Wide Receiver
2 Offensive Linemen
3 Corner Backs
2 Safeties

16 1st round picks used on defense since 2000
7 1st round picks used on offense since 2000

9 1st round picks used on defense since 2009
1 1st round pick used on offense since 2009

2 draft busts from 2000 to 2008 (Gholston and Robertson)
5 real draft busts and possible even 8 from 2009 to present (sanchez, wilson, coples, milner, pryor real busts) (wilkerson, richardson, lee potential busts)

2000 to 2008 bust percentage 13 total picks, 2 busts = 15.4% bust rate
2009 to present bust percentage 10 total picks, 5 busts = 50% bust rate with potential for 80% bust rate

Parcels 4 picks no busts
Bradway 4 picks 1 bust
Tannenbaum 9 picks 4 busts and 1 potential bust
Idzik 3 picks 2 busts and 1 potential bust
Mac 3 picks 1 potential bust

1. 1998 None - Parcells
2. 1999 None - Parcells
3. 2000 Shaun Ellis DE - Parcells
4. 2000 John Abraham LB - Parcells
5. 2000 Chad Pennington QB - Parcells
6. 2000 Anthony Becht TE - Parcells
7. 2001 Santana Moss WR - Terry Bradway
8. 2002 Bryan Thomas DE- Terry Bradway
9. 2003 Dewayne Robertson DT- Terry Bradway
10. 2004 Jonathan Vilma LB- Terry Bradway
11. 2005 None- Terry Bradway
12. 2006 D'Brickshaw Fergusen OT - Mike Tannenbaum
13. 2006 Nick Mangold C- Mike Tannenbaum
14. 2007 Darrelle Revis CB- Mike Tannenbaum
15. 2008 Vernon Gholston DE- Mike Tannenbaum
16. 2008 Dustin Keller TE- Mike Tannenbaum
17. 2009 Mark Sanchez QB- Mike Tannenbaum
18. 2010 Kyle Wilson CB- Mike Tannenbaum
19. 2011 Muhammad Wilkerson DL- Mike Tannenbaum
20. 2012 Quinton Coples DE- Mike Tannenbaum
21. 2013 Dee Millner CB - John Idzik
22. 2013 Sheldon Richardson DE- John Idzik
23. 2014 Calvin Pryor S- John Idzik
24. 2015 Leonard Williams DE - Mike Maccagan
25. 2016 Darron Lee LB- Mike Maccagan
26. 2017 Jamal Adams S- Mike Maccagan

 

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You can see the damage Tannenbaum and Idzik had on our team. They are the reason our bust rate is sooooo high in recent years.

Mr T had about 50% bust rate and Idzik is 75-100%

 

[forevergreen]

The biggest question for Mac comes down to Darren Lee. He could go either way.

 

[butterscotch]

Lee is down now but not out

 

[Mainejet]

Draft picks by position:
8 D-LINE
3 Line Backers
2 Quarter Backs
2 Tight Ends
1 Wide Receiver
2 Offensive Linemen
3 Corner Backs
2 Safeties

16 1st round picks used on defense since 2000
7 1st round picks used on offense since 2000

9 1st round picks used on defense since 2009
1 1st round pick used on offense since 2009

2 draft busts from 2000 to 2008 (Gholston and Robertson)
5 real draft busts and possible even 8 from 2009 to present (sanchez, wilson, coples, milner, pryor real busts) (wilkerson, richardson, lee potential busts)

2000 to 2008 bust percentage 13 total picks, 2 busts = 15.4% bust rate
2009 to present bust percentage 10 total picks, 5 busts = 50% bust rate with potential for 80% bust rate

Parcels 4 picks no busts
Bradway 4 picks 1 bust
Tannenbaum 9 picks 4 busts and 1 potential bust
Idzik 3 picks 2 busts and 1 potential bust
Mac 3 picks 1 potential bust

1. 1998 None - Parcells
2. 1999 None - Parcells
3. 2000 Shaun Ellis DE - Parcells
4. 2000 John Abraham LB - Parcells
5. 2000 Chad Pennington QB - Parcells
6. 2000 Anthony Becht TE - Parcells
7. 2001 Santana Moss WR - Terry Bradway
8. 2002 Bryan Thomas DE- Terry Bradway
9. 2003 Dewayne Robertson DT- Terry Bradway
10. 2004 Jonathan Vilma LB- Terry Bradway
11. 2005 None- Terry Bradway
12. 2006 D'Brickshaw Fergusen OT - Mike Tannenbaum
13. 2006 Nick Mangold C- Mike Tannenbaum
14. 2007 Darrelle Revis CB- Mike Tannenbaum
15. 2008 Vernon Gholston DE- Mike Tannenbaum
16. 2008 Dustin Keller TE- Mike Tannenbaum
17. 2009 Mark Sanchez QB- Mike Tannenbaum
18. 2010 Kyle Wilson CB- Mike Tannenbaum
19. 2011 Muhammad Wilkerson DL- Mike Tannenbaum
20. 2012 Quinton Coples DE- Mike Tannenbaum
21. 2013 Dee Millner CB - John Idzik
22. 2013 Sheldon Richardson DE- John Idzik
23. 2014 Calvin Pryor S- John Idzik
24. 2015 Leonard Williams DE - Mike Maccagan
25. 2016 Darron Lee LB- Mike Maccagan
26. 2017 Jamal Adams S- Mike Maccagan

How can I be the only optimistic one in this thread?

No matter how you slice there's no way Wilkerson can be considered a bust? Sure, he is not playing well at all right now and hasn't for a few seasons, but prior to his big contract, Wilk was a franchise player easily. Him even being in this post is ridiculous.

I also do not view anyone that is on the field regularly as a bust? Just a disappointment and not worth the draft pick spent to get the player in question. I think that encompasses every suspect player the Jets have drafted besides Vernon Gholston? Gholston was never ever really a starter or even a contributor? He was so bad he barely ever saw the field. Becht, Robertson, Sanchez, Wilson, Coples, Milliner, Pryor, and Lee would all fall within the category of not justifying their draft spot?

And honestly, I do not believe Darron Lee will ever be viewed as a bust? He's a smallish type Safety IMO or possibly a 4-3 OLB? He was not meant to play in a 3-4 and I thinking that's rather obvious now, but he can still be useful if they opted to change the defense or reassign him as a Safety?

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

How can I be the only optimistic one in this thread?

No matter how you slice there's no way Wilkerson can be considered a bust? Sure, he is not playing well at all right now and hasn't for a few seasons, but prior to his big contract, Wilk was a franchise player easily. Him even being in this post is ridiculous.

I also do not view anyone that is on the field regularly as a bust? Just a disappointment and not worth the draft pick spent to get the player in question. I think that encompasses every suspect player the Jets have drafted besides Vernon Gholston? Gholston was never ever really a starter or even a contributor? He was so bad he barely ever saw the field. Becht, Robertson, Sanchez, Wilson, Coples, Milliner, Pryor, and Lee would all fall within the category of not justifying their draft spot?

And honestly, I do not believe Darron Lee will ever be viewed as a bust? He's a smallish type Safety IMO or possibly a 4-3 OLB? He was not meant to play in a 3-4 and I thinking that's rather obvious now, but he can still be useful if they opted to change the defense or reassign him as a Safety?

Problem with Mo is he was not a bust for first few years, but he will never be serviceable again. Lost the fire. CUT!!

 

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Problem with Mo is he was not a bust for first few years, but he will never be serviceable again. Lost the fire. CUT!!

While he is obviously not playing well right now and I'm quite disappointed in him I don't think the fire is really out. I believe there are still some hot embers in that pile of bones and the coaching staff just needs to, QUICKLY, find a way to stoke those coals back into a blaze of fury. Isn't that just so poetic of me................you'd never guess I was a writer. ANYWAY, I think there's still hope for him.