ESPN praising Belichick for being forthright, really??

Green Jets & Ham

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Adam Schefter, First Take, Jerome Bettis, the immediate consensus at ESPN is that Belichick was totally forthright and deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Never mind that all he did was deliver a statement then refuse to answer any questions, and how the F that equals being forthright is totally beyond me, but its clear that ESPN (i.e. a league partner) has been given the directive to make this thing go away ASAP if they want to keep broadcasting NFL Games in the future, or I'm sure it was at least implied, because what they are selling (Belichick was forthright and deserves the benefit of the doubt) is the biggest crock of shit I ever heard, but it tells me the fix is in and the Pats are skating yet again. This is ESPN giving the league the cover it needs to sweep this under the rug, and rest assured thats whats coming next.
 

Green Jets & Ham

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How the hell can anyone derive he is telling the truth when he refused to answer any questions?

That speaks of the opposite of a man who is being forthright and telling the truth. That speaks of a man who is lying and has something to hide.

Its absolutely absurd and an insult to my intelligence and your intelligence that ESPN would characterize that press conference as forthright.
 
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Adam Schefter, First Take, Jerome Bettis, the immediate consensus at ESPN is that Belichick was totally forthright and deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Never mind that all he did was deliver a statement then refuse to answer any questions, and how the F that equals being forthright is totally beyond me, but its clear that ESPN (i.e. a league partner) has been given the directive to make this thing go away ASAP if they want to keep broadcasting NFL Games in the future, or I'm sure it was at least implied, because what they are selling (Belichick was forthright and deserves the benefit of the doubt) is the biggest crock of shit I ever heard, but it tells me this fix is in and the Pats are skating yet again. This is ESPN giving the league the cover it needs to sweep this under the rug, and rest assured thats whats coming next.
Reminds me of John Mitchell's thorough investigation of Watergate break in that concluded that President Nixon was totally uninvolved
 

Jet Fan RI

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With Mumbles denying everything, and with Madden's opinion being that deflating the balls would have to involve the QB, does the focus of any league action now fall on Brady?
 
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The latest statement from the lying sack of s**t..

Summary

1. "I'm NO crook

2. "Ask Tom Brady, he handles the balls" (unintended outing at its finest!)



New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick was actually pretty verbose about what he did and didn't know about deflate-gate.

And he used a lot of words in his opening statement, which was about four minutes, to say that he had no knowledge of the chain of command for footballs on game day and had no explanation for how almost all of the Patriots' game balls were well under the league-mandated air pressure for the AFC championship game against the Indianapolis Colts.

Once Belichick was done with a lengthy opening statement, he went full Belichick and answered almost every question one of two ways: "I’ve told you everything I know" and "I don’t have an explanation for what happened." After repeating those things a few times, he ended the press conference by walking off.

During his opening statement, Belichick made it clear that not only did he know nothing about the pre-game inspection of footballs and what happens after that, he had never thought about it in all of his years in coaching.

"When I came in Monday morning I was shocked to learn of the news reports of the footballs," Belichick said. "I had no knowledge whatsoever of this situation until Monday morning. I’ve learned a lot more about this process in the last three days than I knew or had talked about in the last 40 years coaching in this league."

He said he knew teams could prepare balls how they want, give them to officials for inspection before the game and they either approve or disapprove. And that's about the extent of his knowledge.

Although it seems like most people won't buy that explanation from a man famous for micro-managing, it's probably accurate. Of all the things a coach deals with during the week, figuring out the protocol for football inspection isn't high on the priority list.

Belichick had no explanation for what happened on Sunday, when 11 of the 12 Patriots' game balls were found to be two pounds per square inch of pressure lower than league rules. Belichick's only hint at his theory was when he explained that the Patriots will start inflating balls to the high end of the rule, which is 13.5 pounds per square inch, instead of the minimum of 12.5 PSI. It made it sound like Belichick thought since the balls started at the minimum and lost some air naturally, that's why they were low during the game.

"If a ball deflated from 13.2 to 12.9, it wouldn’t matter," Belichick said, "If it deflated from 12.5 to 12.3 it would. As an example. We’ll take steps in the future to make sure we don’t put ourselves in that type of potential situation again."

Belichick said quarterback Tom Brady might know more of the process because he handles the balls (Belichick said he can't remember ever handling a game ball, except maybe grabbing an incomplete pass that came near him). But Belichick truly seemed to have no idea about the football protocol. Until this week, that is, when deflate-gate became the biggest story in the NFL leading up to the Super Bowl.

"It’s unfortunate this is a story coming out of two great playoff victories by our football team and players, but, again, we’ve been cooperative with the NFL investigation and will continue to do so, and we’ll turn all our attention and focus onto the Seattle Seahawks," Belichick said.

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CodieneWanKenobi

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I sense some problems to come within the Patriots organization. This can only be good for Jet fans. Suspend that man. Sean Peyton got suspended for less in my opinion. Someone needs to be punished.
 
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Adam Schefter, First Take, Jerome Bettis, the immediate consensus at ESPN is that Belichick was totally forthright and deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Never mind that all he did was deliver a statement then refuse to answer any questions, and how the F that equals being forthright is totally beyond me, but its clear that ESPN (i.e. a league partner) has been given the directive to make this thing go away ASAP if they want to keep broadcasting NFL Games in the future, or I'm sure it was at least implied, because what they are selling (Belichick was forthright and deserves the benefit of the doubt) is the biggest crock of shit I ever heard, but it tells me the fix is in and the Pats are skating yet again. This is ESPN giving the league the cover it needs to sweep this under the rug, and rest assured thats whats coming next.

Agree 100%. ESPN has a vested interest in not destroying the NFL.

Problem for them is, this has gotten to the National media in general. Not so sure Fox news, and CNN are going to let it go.

Also saw Thiesman (sp) say a deflated ball makes no difference. I'm sure no NFL QB, but I know if I pick up the kids football that is under inflated, I can throw beautiful spirals instead of the usual wounded duck.

These NFL associated jocks, and reporters realize they make great livings from the game, and don't want to kill the Golden Goose.

Their going to let the Pats skate
 

Kentucky Jet

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Adam Schefter, First Take, Jerome Bettis, the immediate consensus at ESPN is that Belichick was totally forthright and deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Never mind that all he did was deliver a statement then refuse to answer any questions, and how the F that equals being forthright is totally beyond me, but its clear that ESPN (i.e. a league partner) has been given the directive to make this thing go away ASAP if they want to keep broadcasting NFL Games in the future, or I'm sure it was at least implied, because what they are selling (Belichick was forthright and deserves the benefit of the doubt) is the biggest crock of shit I ever heard, but it tells me the fix is in and the Pats are skating yet again. This is ESPN giving the league the cover it needs to sweep this under the rug, and rest assured thats whats coming next.

good to see you here GJ&H. Long time ;no see! I hope all is well.
 

jetgreen13

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Agree 100%. ESPN has a vested interest in not destroying the NFL.

Problem for them is, this has gotten to the National media in general. Not so sure Fox news, and CNN are going to let it go.

Also saw Thiesman (sp) say a deflated ball makes no difference. I'm sure no NFL QB, but I know if I pick up the kids football that is under inflated, I can throw beautiful spirals instead of the usual wounded duck.

These NFL associated jocks, and reporters realize they make great livings from the game, and don't want to kill the Golden Goose.

Their going to let the Pats skate
their going to let the pats skake, again!!
 
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flgreen

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Good article

Good article

Patriots' Bill Belichick pleads ignorance on cheating in deflate-gate, points finger in another direction



Nick Powell | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com By Nick Powell | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
on January 22, 2015 at 11:50 AM, updated January 22, 2015 at 12:21 PM


There were no apologies and certainly no admissions of guilt during New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick's press conference addressing why 11 of the 12 game balls used by the Patriots in the AFC Championship game against the Indianapolis Colts were under-inflated. Belichick denied any knowledge of what went on with the championship game footballs, but also drew a puzzling fine line between pleading ignorance on the mechanics of football-doctoring, yet admitting that he tinkers with footballs during Patriots practices.

Belichick's press conference started with a somewhat surprising and lengthy (by Belichickian standards, of course) opening statement, in which the coach was steadfast that he had no knowledge of the ball-deflating controversy until he heard about it when he arrived at his office on Monday.

"I had no knowledge whatsoever of this situation until Monday morning," Belichick said. "I've learned a lot more about this process in the last three days than I knew — or had talked about — in the last 40 years that I've coached in this league. I had no knowledge of the various steps involved in the game balls, the process that happened between when they were prepared and went to the officials and went to the game, so "I've learned a lot about that. Obviously, I understand that each team has the opportunity to prepare the balls the way they want, give them to the officials, and the game officials either approve or disapprove the balls, and that really was the end of it for me, until I learned a little bit more about it the last couple days."

If Belichick had ended his statement there the story might have deflated itself, but instead he went on a tangent about his own ball-doctoring methods for Patriots practices, and his desire to make things as uncomfortable as possible for his players to simulate game situations.

"Let me just say that my personal coaching philosophy, my mentality, has always been to make things as difficult as possible for players in practice, and so with regard to footballs, I'm sure that any current or past player of mine would tell you that the balls we practice with are as bad as they can be," Belichick said. "Wet, sticky, cold, slippery, whatever. However bad we can make them, I make them. And any time that players complain about the quality of the footballs, I make them worse, and that stops the complaining. So we never use the condition of the footballs as an excuse. We play with whatever, or kick with whatever we have to use, and that's the way it is. That has never been a priority for me, and I want the players to deal with a harder situation in practice than they'll ever have to deal with in a game. And maybe that's part of our whole ball security philosophy."

For a coach who initially claimed to not know a whole lot about the "process" of football preparation, Belichick sure sounded like someone who does a lot to mess with the footballs for his own players. It is not clear why he felt that this was the best way to convey his innocence. If anything, it adds fuel to the fire of those who are quick to call the Patriots cheaters. After all, if the Patriots are used to playing with footballs that are in less than optimal condition, it shouldn't bother them to handle a deflated football in an AFC Championship game.

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Belichick seemed to talk himself into even more of a puzzle by saying, "I can tell you that in my entire coaching career I have never talked to any player, staff member about football air pressure. That is not a subject that I have ever brought up. To me, the footballs are approved by the league and game officials pre-game, and we play with what's out there. And that's the only way that I have ever thought about that."

Never mind the fact that minutes earlier, Belichick admitted that players complain to him about the conditions of the footballs during Patriots' practices.

But the big takeaway from Belichick was that while dismissing any notion that he had knowledge of the game-ball conditions, he pointed the finger at Brady, giving the "Deflate-gate" story new life.

"I think we all know that quarterbacks, kickers, specialists have certain preferences on the footballs," Belichick said. "They know a lot more than I do. They're a lot more sensitive to it than I am. I hear them comment on it from time to time, but I can tell you and they will tell you that there's never any sympathy whatsoever from me on that subject. Zero. Tom's personal preferences on his footballs are something that he can talk about in much better detail and information than I could possibly provide."

Brady previously laughed off any allegations of ball-deflating in the AFC Championship game on the part of the Patriots, calling the notion "ridiculous."

So to recap: Belichick knew nothing about the football-deflating controversy until Monday morning; he also supposedly knows nothing about the process of football preparation; he admits that he messes with footballs in Patriots practices all the time to make players uncomfortable and that they complain to him about it; he said he has never talked to a player about football air pressure, but his quarterback might know a thing or two about that.

Belichick added that the team is cooperating fully with the league's investigation and that he would make sure that the team would "inflate the footballs above that low level to account for any possible change during the game." He also said it was unfortunate that this controversy deflected attention from the Patriots' Super Bowl matchup against the Seattle Seahawks.

Is it any wonder why Belichick is loath to reveal anything to reporters? For all of his strategical acumen, Belichick is a novice when it comes to media savvy. Unless deflecting the blame to his quarterback is all part of some master plan to avoid a suspension — after all, the league probably would rather suspend the Patriots' head coach than their starting quarterback (though forfeiture of draft picks seems to be more likely than either scenario).

Perhaps Brady's press conference Thursday afternoon will be more illuminating. Belichick's statement was delivered with his foot plainly in his mouth for all to see, and now it is up to his quarterback to clean up his mess.

Nick Powell may be reached at npowell@njadvancemedia.com. Follow him on Twitter @nickpowellbkny. Find NJ.com Giants on Facebook.
 
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flgreen

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Yeah it did seem like lil Bill was throwing Brady under the bus
 
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ucrenegade

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so he don't know anything about the rules regarding footballs but he messes with them for practices yeah right............will someone ban this douche already.
 
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sg3

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In an interview, Mike Periera called what the Patriots did blatent CHEATING and said that the league has to deal with it harshly
 
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flgreen

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so he don't know anything about the rules regarding footballs but he messes with them for practices yeah right............will someone ban this douche already.

Pretty much the same tact he took on spygate. I didn't know the rules. It worked then, why not try it again. Last time they blamed a rouge cameraman, this time it looks like he is trying to blame Brady.

I'm good with that. I'd rather see Brady gone, and Lil Bill trying to move on with out him
 
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In an interview, Mike Periera called what the Patriots did blatent CHEATING and said that the league has to deal with it harshly
Sorry for some reason the link to this interview got posted as a separate thread

My.bad
 
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