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grogan14

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The CEO's on wall street are innocent also right? I mean none of them are in jail or got caught.

The politicians are all innocent also none of them take bribes because none are in jail.

So you are saying they are guilty without any proof?
 

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With no proof, and a ton of shady goings on around NFL officials and their handling of the balls, to the point of one being fire, as well as conflicting leaked reports about the condition of the ball themselves, one repot says 11 balls under, one report says only one ball, yet to you the Pats are guilty no matter what? Sack that's why there is no real debate here, Mod or not you really don't want any civilized conversation between Jets and Pats fans. For as much as you call me a Pats Flag waver you really are the one with the Green and White Pom Poms and not much else.

Why are you even here? Why would someone who isn't a troll spend so much time on a rival team's board, solely for the purpose of bashing that team and heralding their own?

Short answer: They wouldn't.

I wasn't even addressing you. Yet you still appear here. At this point, you've been so ridiculous that you have alienated your most ardent supporters over here.
 
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ucrenegade

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So you are saying they are guilty without any proof?

no I am saying we all know they are guilty but just like kraft has goodell the wall street boys have friends in high places also.

It's amazing what someone can get away with when they have certain friends.
 
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grogan14

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Why are you even here? Why would someone who isn't a troll spend so much time on a rival team's board, solely for the purpose of bashing that team and heralding their own?

Short answer: They wouldn't.

I wasn't even addressing you. Yet you still appear here. At this point, you've been so ridiculous that you have alienated your most ardent supporters over here.

I'm simply trying to have a dialogue regarding a topic that is very important to my team. However from what I've seen here, Jets fans are so jealous of the Patriots and blinded by hate that they can't even have a simple conversation about the topic without already convicting the Patriots of something simply because they want to, not because it's been proven they did anything. Then you label me a Troll because I don't sit back and take the attacks. It's joke, you don't want conversation or debate here, you want a circle jerk for Jets fans to stand around and pat each other on the back. You want to label other teams fans as trolls not because they are, but rather because their opinions hold more truth than you're able to deal with. It's sad really.
 

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I'm simply trying to have a dialogue regarding a topic that is very important to my team. However from what I've seen here, Jets fans are so jealous of the Patriots and blinded by hate that they can't even have a simple conversation about the topic without already convicting the Patriots of something simply because they want to, not because it's been proven they did anything. Then you label me a Troll because I don't sit back and take the attacks. It's joke, you don't want conversation or debate here, you want a circle jerk for Jets fans to stand around and pat each other on the back. You want to label other teams fans as trolls not because they are, but rather because their opinions hold more truth than you're able to deal with. It's sad really.

You really think that highly of yourself and your team.

No, no. A troll would NEVER come to a rival team's board and talk about how jealous that team's fans are of his team. That's not trolling!

If Jets fans are so awful, then you can spare yourself a ton of aggravation by not posting ON A JETS BOARD!!!
 

hobson54

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it's funny any other team they get punishment in a timely matter but not the pats slip by everytime.


not sure this is true. the falcons violations date back to the 2013 season and part of the 2014 season, and the browns violations happened during the 2014 regular season. deflate-gate happened in the playoffs.

personally, i have no idea why texting the sidelines would be prohibited. they have phones from the booth to the sidelines. why can't a GM text someone on the sidelines?

in any event, and this may be unpopular to say here, but these two cases had teams admitting wrong-doing, assumedly based on some type of concrete evidence. i didn't follow the particulars of either case, but both teams had admitted guilt. in contrast, the pats deflate-gate controversy doesn't appear to have any smoking gun evidence, only circumstantial evidence (to use the legal jargon). and obviously the pats are fighting it tooth and nail and haven't admitted guilt like the falcons and browns did. so while i too find the circumstances surrounding the deflated balls to be quite mysterious (to say the least), finding guilt in this case will be a lot harder.
 

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Agreed, hobson. Maybe it's the Falcons and Browns who were dumb enough to admit when they had been caught. Perhaps if they had been as arrogantly defiant as Kraft, they would not have been penalized.
 
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sg3

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How many seconds would any of us last posting negative crap about pats fans as obrien7 or rtodd14 at patsfags.com???

less than 60

Yet because of the graciousness, fairness and kindness of Elias, ren, sack and machinaverde this troll grogan14 continues to blather and drool on unabated
 

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How many seconds would any of us last posting negative crap about pats fans as obrien7 or rtodd14 at patsfags.com???

less than 60

Yet because of the graciousness, fairness and kindness of Elias, ren, sack and machinaverde this troll grogan14 continues to blather and drool on unabated

Well, that is coming to an end.
 

isired

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So you are saying they are guilty without any proof?

Let's be honest - there is a fair amount of circumstantial evidence - balls are underinflated to a degree beyond what's legal, balls were in the hands of a pats employee, and whaddaya know, the guy takes the balls into a room, out of sight of cameras, on his way to the field... And... it's not the first time their balls were underinflated.

So while there might not be enough to convict in court, it's more likely than not that the Pats tried to gain advantage by deflating the balls. And they certainly tried to gain advantage by PLAYING WITH deflated balls, no matter how they came to be that way. Again, it wad not the first time.

I don't openly bash the Pats, just don't have the time or energy, but these things have added up over the years. They've been a great team, but they've made it such that there will always be a "what if they didn't..." attached to their wins.
 

Johnny Unite Us

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there will always be a "what if they didn't..." attached to their wins.

Also known as an asterisk.

The Patriots have won four Superbowls, and Barry Bonds has hit 762 home runs, and Lance Armstrong has won seven Tour de France titles.

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sg3

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Also known as an asterisk.

The Patriots have won four Superbowls, and Barry Bonds has hit 762 home runs, and Lance Armstrong has won seven Tour de France titles.

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And Rosie Ruiz won the Boston Marathon

And the Soviet Union won the Olympic Gold Medal in Basketball when the last seconds were replayed three full times by the officials until the desired results were achieved

Cheaters cheat


Call it "The Patriot Way"
 
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