Fitz is the top backup in the league, according to this top-10 list

[Superman55]

That is pretty well what I would expect, as well. The addition of Marshall is so big, with Decker and Amaro already here. Smith can stretch the field, to prevent teams from cheating up too much.

If the line can be average (and I think they can...not much better than that, but not much worse), with an average passing game and a slightly above average ground game, that puts the offense in the middle of the pack. With a stout defense, that's not a bad formula.

Smiths going to see a lot of man-to-man and have opportunities to take shots. the entire offense will be open to him and hopefully they use his mobility a little better than what's we've seen historically. Its in our best interest to do well, but if he doesn't, I think Fitz can steer the ship.

Remember though, Houston had the #7 scoring defense last year, 19.2 ppg, and Fitz with Foster (1600 totals yards, 1250 rushing, and 13 total TDs), Andre Johnson (85 rec) and Hopkins (76 rec)...only got them to 6-6 in the games he started (playing in one of the weakest divisions in the NFL).

I know a lot of people have high hopes for Fitz...but Im a stone cold O'Brien believer, and even in an ideal situation with two top WRs and a top running game, he saw Fitz was a .500 QB and decided to move on. I just hope there aren't tremendous expectations here. Andre Johnson caught 85 balls for 930 yards and Hopkins got 76 for 1200...not because the wrs cant get down field...but Obrien knew the limitations he had at QB. Id expect similar numbers and record with fitz...not 14-2 or 12-4 as some may think...

 

[SackExchange]

Smiths going to see a lot of man-to-man and have opportunities to take shots. the entire offense will be open to him and hopefully they use his mobility a little better than what's we've seen historically. Its in our best interest to do well, but if he doesn't, I think Fitz can steer the ship.

Remember though, Houston had the #7 scoring defense last year, 19.2 ppg, and Fitz with Foster (1600 totals yards, 1250 rushing, and 13 total TDs), Andre Johnson (85 rec) and Hopkins (76 rec)...only got them to 6-6 in the games he started (playing in one of the weakest divisions in the NFL).

I know a lot of people have high hopes for Fitz...but Im a stone cold O'Brien believer, and even in an ideal situation with two top WRs and a top running game, he saw Fitz was a .500 QB and decided to move on. I just hope there aren't tremendous expectations here. Andre Johnson caught 85 balls for 930 yards and Hopkins got 76 for 1200...not because the wrs cant get down field...but Obrien knew the limitations he had at QB. Id expect similar numbers and record with fitz...not 14-2 or 12-4 as some may think...

I'm not sure how much you judge a guy who puts up the numbers Fitz did last year just by W's and L's. His numbers were beyond impressive.

As for O'Brien, I'm sure the Nittany Lions connection helps the case.

 

[Superman55]

I'm not sure how much you judge a guy who puts up the numbers Fitz did last year just by W's and L's. His numbers were beyond impressive.

As for O'Brien, I'm sure the Nittany Lions connection helps the case.

Who is that QB he worked with up in New England from 07-12...he's pretty good?

I also like his hard nosed, no nonsense, approach to the game. He is more like Parcells than even Bowles...who I do think has a lot of parcells in his personality.

 

[SackExchange]

Who is that QB he worked with up in New England from 07-12...he's pretty good?

I also like his hard nosed, no nonsense, approach to the game. He is more like Parcells than even Bowles...who I do think has a lot of parcells in his personality.

Well, then, clearly O'Brien's work with Fitz will pay long-term dividends, just like it did with Brady...right?

 

[sg3]

Good point


Brady was a total failure in NE until Bill O Brien showed up, as everyone knows.

O Brien made Brady everything he is, which is why all the Penn State and all the Texans quarterbacks have become HOFers since Big Bill arrived

 

[Superman55]

Well, then, clearly O'Brien's work with Fitz will pay long-term dividends, just like it did with Brady...right?

of course...or maybe there was a reason he parted with him...remains to be seen.

 

[Superman55]

Good point


Brady was a total failure in NE until Bill O Brien showed up, as everyone knows.

O Brien made Brady everything he is, which is why all the Penn State and all the Texans quarterbacks have become HOFers since Big Bill arrived

I stopped reading your posts awhile ago, but read this one for some reason...the 1 QB he selected for Penn State, is projected to go #1 in the draft next year...likely no lower than 5...Hackenberg. He's the best QB prospect since Luck.

Also, funny everyone is excited about how good Fitz was last year, remarkably better than any season before (and the first time Fitz didnt have a losing season, .500 is the best he's ever been)...who was coaching Fitz last year for his career year? Was it Chan Gaily? Oh yeah...it was Bill O'Brien...

 

[sg3]

Our resident Nittany Loon has it all figured out

Quite hilarious really

He claims he only reads one or two posters and has all the others on ignore but yet he responds like Pavlov s puppy instantaneously to every single poster that dares to disagree with anything he posts.

Like the idea that Bill O Brien is the guy who made Tom Brady great ..not the obvious other way around

 

[soj]

55 according to our new HC Fits arm strength was not a problem in OTA and he stated that he was getting better...so I am curious about your analysis regarding a limited O and his arm strength.

 

[SackExchange]

Enough, enough. Don't engage the poster, engage the post. If you cannot keep your comments to the topic, don't make a comment at all.

 

[Football51]

Our resident Nittany Loon has it all figured out

Quite hilarious really

He claims he only reads one or two posters and has all the others on ignore but yet he responds like Pavlov s puppy instantaneously to every single poster that dares to disagree with anything he posts.

Like the idea that Bill O Brien is the guy who made Tom Brady great ..not the obvious other way around

SG3......... here's your second warning...first was in the feedback thread(for all). Attack the post not the poster. Next time, I'll give you a little time to cool off. You just can't seem to help yourself. Posts like yours kill the morale of the board. i get several pm's a week complaining about them.

 

[sg3]

SG3......... here's your second warning...first was in the feedback thread(for all). Attack the post not the poster. Next time, I'll give you a little time to cool off. You just can't seem to help yourself. Posts like yours kill the morale of the board. i get several pm's a week complaining about them.

Don't bother with a third

 

[Football51]

Don't bother with a third

There is no third..........

 

[Superman55]

55 according to our new HC Fits arm strength was not a problem in OTA and he stated that he was getting better...so I am curious about your analysis regarding a limited O and his arm strength.

Rich Cimini @RichCimini
In 7 on 7, Geno Smith throws a 50-yard strike to Chris Owusu for a TD. Great ball. Ryan Fitzpatrick couldn't make that throw. #nyj

The Overall

Fitzpatrick is a thoroughly average NFL quarterback. He has major arm strength limitations and is inconsistent with his decision making.

http://turnonthejets.com/2015/03/new-york-jets-trade-for-ryan-fitzpatrick/

A lot of the reason he was released from the Bills in the first place was issues with arm strength:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1381564-breaking-down-ryan-fitzpatricks-form-at-the-nfls-midseason-mark

Buffalo Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick has come under fire during his tenure in Buffalo due to having a weak arm, accuracy issues and poor decision-making.

 

[Lakerfan80]

Buffalo was 5 years ago. He threw 6 Td's in a game just last season. Fitz is a smart, veteran QB who I don't think will make all those bad decisions his younger self made trying to prove himself. With those things and the weapons the Jets have on offense I could see why he would be rated the top backup.

 

[sg3]

Buffalo was 5 years ago. He threw 6 Td's in a game just last season. Fitz is a smart, veteran QB who I don't think will make all those bad decisions his younger self made trying to prove himself. With those things and the weapons the Jets have on offense I could see why he would be rated the top backup.

+1000

 

[Superman55]

Buffalo was 5 years ago. He threw 6 Td's in a game just last season. Fitz is a smart, veteran QB who I don't think will make all those bad decisions his younger self made trying to prove himself. With those things and the weapons the Jets have on offense I could see why he would be rated the top backup.

I agree he's a top back up QB. he's a bottom 15 starting QB. Even with that 6 TD game, career year in every passing category...he took a top 7 defense, Andre Johnson and Hopkins (2 stud WRs like he has now) and an all pro RB (he doesnt have now), and a top 10 oline (he doesnt have now) to 6-6...playing in a division with the Titans and Jags...

 

[sg3]

Bottom 15

When you consider our "starting quarterback for now" has been in the bottom 1 or 2 for two seasons, that's a huge upgrade

 

[jetgreen13]

Bottom 15

When you consider our "starting quarterback for now" has been in the bottom 1 or 2 for two seasons, that's a huge upgrade

i believe it will be a huge upgrade as well..

bowles seems like to smart a guy to let smith ruin a season with this much talent on both sides of the ball..

i see fitzpatrick & his terrible "arm strength" leading us to the playoffs..

 

[NickSINYC]

I am no expert and did no research but just thinking back over the years I always thought Fitz threw a nice deep ball.