Fitzpatrick Thread -- Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jets agree to 1-year, $12M deal

[jetgreen13]

He flew out there this afternoon according to Sirius NFL Radio

any word on if he's still at the broncos facility??

 

[isired]

No, but I haven't listened since 6p

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

There is no way a team will give Fitz more than $5mil a year.

A 33 year old journey man QB. Honestly, would any one here pay Trent Dilfer $18 mil a year?

Make no mistake, i like Fitz, but not that much. IMHO, he'll be a Jet by next week.
Cant make the same mistake Buffalo did with him.

 

[isired]

There is no way a team will give Fitz more than $5mil a year.

A 33 year old journey man QB. Honestly, would any one here pay Trent Dilfer $18 mil a year?

Make no mistake, i like Fitz, but not that much. IMHO, he'll be a Jet by next week.
Cant make the same mistake Buffalo did with him.

He's definitely getting more than $5M per. I'll be shocked if he gets less than twice that at this point.

 

[isired]

Good article on Den QB options...

Kaepernick, RGIII, Glennon options for Broncos at QB

Chris Wesseling
Around the NFL Writer

The 2015 Denver Broncos proved to be one of the rare NFL teams with a roster strong enough to carry a pair of subpar quarterbacks to the Super Bowl title.

Now that Peyton Manning has retired and Brock Osweiler has absconded to Houston with $72 million lining his pockets, the pressure is on general manager John Elway to return the position to respectability in 2016.

While Osweiler's decision may have sent shockwaves through the NFL, it did not come as a surprise at Broncos headquarters. As of last week, NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday, Elway had already reached the conclusion that Osweiler did not want to be in Denver.

With that timeframe in mind, the Broncos' front office is already knee-deep in prospective solutions. Here is a look at the best options for Elway going forward:

1. Colin Kaepernick, 49ers: NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport has reported that Kaepernick would be the fallback option in the event of Osweiler's departure. The Broncos nearly drafted Kaepernick in 2011, per Rapoport, and Elway is close with 49ers general manager Trent Baalke.

Kaepernick's representatives have requested permission to seek a trade out of San Francisco.

2. Robert Griffin III, free agent: Now that he has been released by the Redskins, Griffin is "on the radar" in Denver, per Rapoport. It's hard to imagine RGIII receiving glowing reviews from former Washington coach Mike Shanahan, who has strong ties to Elway as well as Broncos coach Gary Kubiak.

On the other hand, Griffin's skillset was once viewed as a perfect match for Shanahan's boot-action offense, which is awfully similar to Kubiak's.

3. Mike Glennon, Buccaneers: Rapoport cited Glennon as a name to watch, but cautioned that it would take a big offer to pry him away from the Buccaneers. Although Glennon is entering the final year of his rookie contract, general manager Jason Licht recently insisted, "I'm not going to give Mike Glennon up, I'll just tell you that."

That sounds like a man unwilling to deal his strong-armed quarterback insurance for less than a premium in draft-pick compensation.

4. Ryan Fitzpatrick, free agent: The assumption all along has been that Fitzpatrick will re-sign with the Jets on the heels of a career year under Chan Gailey, but now he finds himself all alone as the most experienced and valuable quarterback on the market. Would the Broncos considering signing the semi-reliable Fitzpatrick and importing a high-risk/high-upside gamble such as Kaepernick or Griffin?

5. Case Keenum, Rams: A restricted free agent, Keenum was tendered at the first-round level by St. Louis. Even if he's a Kubiak favorite from their time together in Houston, that's a prohibitive price to pay for a career backup with size and arm strength limitations.

6. Matt Moore, free agent: Moore was once viewed as a high-end backup bordering on low-end starter, but he has thrown just 30 passes in the past four seasons. It's telling that the Dolphins opted to move on from the 31-year-old as their No. 2 quarterback this year.

7. Grab bag: AJ McCarron, Mark Sanchez and Brian Hoyer

McCarron held his own against Denver's defense late last season, but the Bengals have even less incentive to deal him than the Bucs do with Glennon. He's under contract at a cheap rate for two more seasons.

Do the Eagles want to pay Sanchez $4.5 million as a third-stringer after signing Sam Bradford and Chase Daniel to battle for the starting job?

Will Hoyer find himself on the market after the Texans landed Osweiler?

Source

 

[gmf1369]

There is no way a team will give Fitz more than $5mil a year.

A 33 year old journey man QB. Honestly, would any one here pay Trent Dilfer $18 mil a year?

Make no mistake, i like Fitz, but not that much. IMHO, he'll be a Jet by next week.
Cant make the same mistake Buffalo did with him.

once again Ryan Fitzpatrick market value is $11 Million annual, him and his agent are seeking north of $16 Million annual...

 

[SackExchange]

I still think 15 million per for Fitz is insanely overpaying. I wouldn't give the guy a penny more than 10 million per and even that is pushing it. He's only a stopgap. He's NOT a franchise QB despite Fitz wanting to be paid like one.

Well, the market seems to think otherwise, as lesser QBs are getting more than $15 million per, and far, far more than $10 million per.

 

[SackExchange]

once again Ryan Fitzpatrick market value is $11 Million annual, him and his agent are seeking north of $16 Million annual...

My guess right now is he comes back. I don't see him as a good fit with the Broncos system.

If I absolutely had to guess on numbers, I'd say 2/31, first year $14, second year $17. Not sure about guaranteed structure.

 

[HYATT™]

Does anyone have a better handle on the market value of UFAs than HYATT™?
HA !!!!
Good luck finding anyone.

FitzMagic's magic number is $16M - and that's the home-town discount GIFT.
2 years/$35M, with $20M guaranteed ($14M signing bonus + $4M guaranteed in 2017) & an optional 3rd year at $21M.
His base salary will be about $2M this year - also guaranteed.
Cap hit, $16M in 2016.
Dead cap in 2017 if they decide to cut him loose = $4M, which is pretty much market value for a starting caliber backup QB, should Fitzmagic find himself being outplayed by a 2016 rookie QB draft pick next year or Petty exceeds every single expectation of him, (except that of delusional fans who still think he's a franchise QB), and ACTUALLY plays at a starting QB level in 2017.

You don't have to LIKE it, but NFL starting QB money is set by the market, not fan wishes and white horse rides.
It eez wot it eez - the market always overpays QBs & Top-3 talent at the position, regardless of position.
(THOR is currently being overpaid because he WAS a Top-3 talent at Center. Mack just signed a $9M/year deal because he IS a Top-3 talent at Center.)
It's called being a "market-maker" & it's been going on since Plan B was deemed an antitrust violation in 1992.

 

[Old#15]

So, what do you suggest that MM does? Overpay for Fitz, or go into the season with a combination of Smith, Petty and draftee (Cook/Lynch)? I gotta believe that if the Forte signing is any indication of his intentions, that he plans on having Fitzpatrick back. The Osweiler signing has definitely thrown a monkey wrench into the QB market, so who knows where we go from here.

 

[jets82]

+1. Good post. I think it is the right move; we used him and he uses us.

I want the team to get younger at QB anyway. Of course I want a franchise QB or atleast a better then average one but a younger one. Fitz played well TRUE but he's not a franchise QB IMO. Pipe dream here but I'm hoping Petty is ready to go. He's had a year to sit and learn and hopefully that's enough. If it's not, then maybe Petty isn't the guy. Some QBs sit longer then one year I know I.E. A. Rogers but did he really need three years or was he only sitting that long because Brett wouldn't retire? I believe it's because Brett just wouldn't hang it up. If not Petty, then hopefully we strike it lucky with RG3 or Kaepernick. Last resort, Geno LOL!!!

 

[jets82]

Denver isn't signing Fitz at 18,otherwise they would have paid osweiler 18.

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Great point and can't argue that but neither should the Jets. I'd say a two year deal at $11-$13 max a year he gets from us. Take it or leave it Fitz.

 

[usapaw]

Like a running back literally on his "last legs" is going to dictate to us who will be our QB? Not.

 

[jetgreen13]

Like a running back literally on his "last legs" is going to dictate to us who will be our QB? Not.

forte was a "win now" move..

re-signing fitzpatrick would be to "win now" as well..

 

[isired]

Does anyone have a better handle on the market value of UFAs than HYATT™?
HA !!!!
Good luck finding anyone.

FitzMagic's magic number is $16M - and that's the home-town discount GIFT.
2 years/$35M, with $20M guaranteed ($14M signing bonus + $4M guaranteed in 2017) & an optional 3rd year at $21M.
His base salary will be about $2M this year - also guaranteed.
Cap hit, $16M in 2016.
Dead cap in 2017 if they decide to cut him loose = $4M, which is pretty much market value for a starting caliber backup QB, should Fitzmagic find himself being outplayed by a 2016 rookie QB draft pick next year or Petty exceeds every single expectation of him, (except that of delusional fans who still think he's a franchise QB), and ACTUALLY plays at a starting QB level in 2017.

You don't have to LIKE it, but NFL starting QB money is set by the market, not fan wishes and white horse rides.
It eez wot it eez - the market always overpays QBs & Top-3 talent at the position, regardless of position.
(THOR is currently being overpaid because he WAS a Top-3 talent at Center. Mack just signed a $9M/year deal because he IS a Top-3 talent at Center.)
It's called being a "market-maker" & it's been going on since Plan B was deemed an antitrust violation in 1992.

I would agree, except it's a 2 team market right now, and it looks like only the Jets have Fitz as their top choice. He may be as low as the #4 option for Denver.

 

[Old#15]

forte was a "win now" move..

re-signing fitzpatrick would be to "win now" as well..

That was my point.

 

[jetgreen13]

That was my point.

i know.. i was agreeing..

 

[Elias]

forte was a "win now" move..

re-signing fitzpatrick would be to "win now" as well..

That's what I like about Mac's rebuild last year (and maybe this year). He builds the team to compete now but at the same time was supplementing it with young talent all around. Williams, Mauldin, Petty....

 

[hobson54]

So, what do you suggest that MM does? Overpay for Fitz, or go into the season with a combination of Smith, Petty and draftee (Cook/Lynch)? I gotta believe that if the Forte signing is any indication of his intentions, that he plans on having Fitzpatrick back. The Osweiler signing has definitely thrown a monkey wrench into the QB market, so who knows where we go from here.

agree on the forte angle. you don't sign a 31 y.o. RB unless you are gearing up for a playoff push. and if you are, you don't hand the team over to geno or 2 QB draft picks who have never taken a snap in the nfl.

should fitz end up elsewhere, i'd expect the jets to kick the tires on RGIII or see what it takes to get kapernick. not that i love either alternative, but i can't see macc having invested so much money on older players turn the team over to either geno or an unproven draft pick (1st or 2nd year)

 

[Elias]

Looks like no market for Fitz which is hard to believe. People are probably scared to give him the $ after only one year of success

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