Brian Hoyer just signed with the Bears.
(Fitz will be a Jet in no time)
(Fitz will be a Jet in no time)
Fitzpatrick Thread -- Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jets agree to 1-year, $12M deal
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this is great. Fitz tried to create down kind of bidding war but it didn't work. Call it quits and go where you belong.
I must admit it would be nice if they can sign Fitz to a one or two deal at about $8-10 mil a year guaranteed. He could tutor Hack and Petty and in a year, maybe they both will be ready to fight it out for the starting position. Now I get it Fitz probably looks at himself as being able to play 3-4 years atleast and wants like 18 mil a year. I get that he feels that way about himself and wants the money but I get even more why the Jets ain't gonna pay him. Stuck to your guns Woody, Mac and TB and don't give him more then 10 mil max. If that really!
I'm hopeful but don't think Petty or Hack will be ready to play this year, so unfortunately we sorta need Fitz. DAMMIT!
I'm hopeful but don't think Petty or Hack will be ready to play this year, so unfortunately we sorta need Fitz. DAMMIT!
I will be the first one to say this but we don't NEED Fitzpatrick, whereas with Geno being in his contract year and he was being acknowledged last off season as grasping Gailey's concept and was the projected starter even with Fitz looking like he would be ready to go at seasons' start...
Starter: Geno Smith
Backup: Bryce Petty
Bench: Christian Hackenberg
PSquad: ?
If Geno starts show inconsistencies then the Jets could trade for someone or insert Petty into the rotation to see what he has if anything...
We don't need a hero, we need a game manager...
I don't think we need Fitz as a QB for next year, as I see the playoffs as a long shot with or without him. But I do think he would be absolutely instrumental in grooming Hackenberg/Petty. He is very smart and well-versed in the system. There is really nothing of value that can be learned from sitting behind Geno.
The Jets continue to have all the leverage. Fitzpatrick needs the Jets more than the Jets need him. If the Jets go with Geno next year, and have Petty in standby mode, it's not that bad a deal. Geno will have Marshall and Decker, Matt Forte, and a better overall team than the last time he was a starter. And Geno Smith had some success as QB of this team. It wasn't all bad.
Hackenberg will be fully immersed in Gailey's system by year's end, and possibly compete for a starting spot next year.
Fitz is the best case scenario if he comes back for next year. But there's a sustainable plan B if he keeps this charade up.
Hackenberg will be fully immersed in Gailey's system by year's end, and possibly compete for a starting spot next year.
Fitz is the best case scenario if he comes back for next year. But there's a sustainable plan B if he keeps this charade up.
Good reasonable post, and may be exactly how management is viewing this. Though the QB situation is not ideal for the upcoming season, it appears we finally have a strategy and more importantly some viable pieces in place for the future. We are building a dominant defense and have a solid offense with some valuable veteran skill personnel. All critical for any QB, particularly a young one.
Agree 100%.
I am all for Plan B.... But I wouldn't be surprised if Petty beats out Geno in camp... If not so be it.. Geno has had success and maybe with Gaileys guidance and the talent around him now he will be decent to above avg
The day the season ended on a sour note and Fitz became a free agent, the gm,owner, and coach all said Fitz is the starter and want him back. That's a pretty strong statement for a player they were entering into negotiations with.
You have never heard things like, "well we have geno,so if Fitz comes back, we'll see who wins out."
I think that says a lot about what the same gm who drafted hack, thinks of Fitz and his role. People here can have any opinions they want, but the gm doesn't share it.
If things go south is it the end of the world? No. We'll make do.
I think Fitz will be our qb, and I think that was what both sides wanted the whole time. My opinion is we are waiting to cut players financially to get it done. Now that we know who we drafted, we know where we can afford to cut.
I really think Fitz gets a 3 year deal, 12 mill per, 18 mill guaranteed. That let's us build on last year's chemistry and Forte, and perhaps a3rd receiver? Either Fitz loses the starting job and is cut next year with a6 mill loss, or he does well and we're in the same boat next year, knowing more about our young guys, or if these guys don't step up, and Fitz keeps playing at a historic level we redo his contract and keep seeking an heir.
We also would be in a position to trade a qb for a 1st, similar to the Glennon situation. The more these guys develop without seeing field time, the more the league wonders if they're ready to play. Keeping outsiders in the dark let's them raise the trade value.
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You have never heard things like, "well we have geno,so if Fitz comes back, we'll see who wins out."
I think that says a lot about what the same gm who drafted hack, thinks of Fitz and his role. People here can have any opinions they want, but the gm doesn't share it.
If things go south is it the end of the world? No. We'll make do.
I think Fitz will be our qb, and I think that was what both sides wanted the whole time. My opinion is we are waiting to cut players financially to get it done. Now that we know who we drafted, we know where we can afford to cut.
I really think Fitz gets a 3 year deal, 12 mill per, 18 mill guaranteed. That let's us build on last year's chemistry and Forte, and perhaps a3rd receiver? Either Fitz loses the starting job and is cut next year with a6 mill loss, or he does well and we're in the same boat next year, knowing more about our young guys, or if these guys don't step up, and Fitz keeps playing at a historic level we redo his contract and keep seeking an heir.
We also would be in a position to trade a qb for a 1st, similar to the Glennon situation. The more these guys develop without seeing field time, the more the league wonders if they're ready to play. Keeping outsiders in the dark let's them raise the trade value.
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I'd give him 15 million. You really want Geno to start? Hell, most of this board may have wanted Matt Simms to start. Fitzpatrick is not a great qb, but he's a good one. Fitz' last season was better than any season for a Jets starter since Brett Favre in 2008. In fact, Fitz' last 4 seasons were better than any season for a Jets starter since Brett Favre in 2008. Give him the money if you have to backload it a bit. The Jets can pay for it by restructuring Revis (which will have to happen).
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Geno never had an OC like Gailey to teach him, or the offensive weapons that Fitz got to work with last year, and he did have some success that notwithstanding. He is also capable of completing deep passes, which Fitz is not. I would actually prefer Geno to Fitz next year, to see what he has learned. And if, maybe, he can put it all together. If he can, we have ourselves a talented QB, if not, at least we will know for sure that he cannot be that guy.
That's fine but I still wouldn't want us to go into the season without any better options. Personally speaking, Geno has not done anything to keep me from worrying about the prospect of going into the season with Geno, Hackenburg, and Petty as our only qb options.
My preference is Fitzpatrick. But that negotiation, assuming there still is one, doesn't appear anywhere close to an agreement. Is Fitz gonna agree to take half of what he's asking?
I've been accused of being a Geno fanboy and just about everything else imaginable, but I'm not going to take either extreme when it comes to this option. He's looked really good, and really bad. That's an honest assessment. I'm thinking maybe, just maybe, that with some weapons at his disposal, and a better overall team than the last time he was a starter, he could play just well enough to game manage us next year.
My real hope though is that either Hackenberg or Petty wins the job in 2017. I think we can all agree on that.
Hard for me to say this but I rather go with Geno than pay more than $11 Million for Fitz.
I would think Geno benefits from having a coach like Gailey and Patullo. As well as benefiting from sitting last year. If he hasn't matured and learned from last year he never will.
I would think Geno benefits from having a coach like Gailey and Patullo. As well as benefiting from sitting last year. If he hasn't matured and learned from last year he never will.
I am not saying spend that money on Fitz but it would be easy to open up cap space without losing players...
Jets could go to Brandon Marshall or Nick Mangold and tell them we need to renegotiate your current salary into a signing bonus since both their deals are not guaranteed we would basically be rolling their money into a full guarantee (well 95% of it)...
Think that is what they are thinking now to do since we don't have any money to sign Fitz to the current offer we have on the table...
But between two players like Mangold & Marshall they would be able to flex enough money for a 15 Million salary if they needed too...
I already stated that Revis will need to get restructured. After looking at the other QB contracts, Fitz should get in the 12-13 range. But it would have to be backloaded a bit.