Geno Smith Out 6-10 Weeks

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Superman55

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His downside is the lesser of two evils vs Geno's

Well, his best record over 16 games is 6-10...I dont know how much lower you can get for a downside...well, we won 4 games last year. Guess it could be worse. Lets stay in the top 10 draft position though. I dont think its in our best interest to win this year. Why go 8-8 and need to trade 3 1s to get a QB?
 

jets82

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...anyone remember the idiot kicker comment? Brady screaming in welker's face? Dan Marino, Brett Favre? Guess we have short memories of QBs grabbing players by the face mask and yelling at them so much spit is flying in their face...

Happens all the time. Sounds like selective memory. Hell, Favre use to shit in people's shoes, man. ...so did Randy Moss. No one punched either of them in the face.
Lol, so true. HOFers fought and fought ALOT, QBs to kickers. This was a stupid move in both ends but it happens. Just unfortunate it happened to us.
 

hobson54

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...anyone remember the idiot kicker comment? Brady screaming in welker's face? Dan Marino, Brett Favre? Guess we have short memories of QBs grabbing players by the face mask and yelling at them so much spit is flying in their face...

Happens all the time. Sounds like selective memory. Hell, Favre use to shit in people's shoes, man. ...so did Randy Moss. No one punched either of them in the face.


bowles already said it was not a football-related incident and something more becoming of a 6th grader. so not quite the same as in game QB's in the face of their teammates.
 

Superman55

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Lol, so true. HOFers fought and fought ALOT, QBs to kickers. This was a stupid move in both ends but it happens. Just unfortunate it happened to us.

agreed. Locker room garbage was happening long before the Dolphins fiasco...it's happened for decades...
 

Superman55

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bowles already said it was not a football-related incident and something more becoming of a 6th grader. so not quite the same as in game QB's in the face of their teammates.

but on par with favre sleeping with other player's wives and his constant practical jokes in the locker room, right?

or Harvin sleeping with Wilson's fiancee...on par with stupid shit like that, right?
 

hobson54

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You have to be smarter than that. If it was AJ Green or Adrian Peterson I would say it's stupid. Certain players once invested in can't threaten the team's season by doing stuff like this. I wouldn't want Mangold, Suh, Clay Matthews, Haden, or Revis in a situation like that...

As a professional franchise player, you have to know these incidents can't be part of the "brand" you've created to get you the franchise contract... Suh can't be fighting and kicking players, Revis shouldn't be getting in fights with Geno, etc. You pull them into the corner in the locker room and say what needs to be said and be done with it. At least I think that's what Revis would do in this situation.


this is from the cam newton fight thread. does the same apply to geno in he should not be getting into this situations? IK is to blame for taking the altercation up a huge notch and decking geno. but shouldn't it also be incumbent on geno to not get into the situation in the first place?
 

jets82

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I wonder if Geno is found to be primarily at faught here will the Jets cut him at the end of the year? I'm sure it wouldn't happen sooner but could or would they do it after this season? I mean this regime holds no difference to Geno. Guess that would all depend on how our current QBs do. Whomever the hell that may be.
 

cysporsche

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Rich Gannon on Sirius radio said regardless what was said, "you never punch or hurt your QB"!

Go Jets...Cyborg
 

Costigan77

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but on par with favre sleeping with other player's wives and his constant practical jokes in the locker room, right?

or Harvin sleeping with Wilson's fiancee...on par with stupid shit like that, right?



Yeah, so it was Golden Tate...again, facts help

Never heard of the Brett Favre one...probably no one has but you.

You're right. Season over. Geno was our only chance. Boo hoo SOJ

Jeez your s*** is so tired
 

Elias

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Rich Gannon on Sirius radio said regardless what was said, "you never punch or hurt your QB"!

Go Jets...Cyborg

This is probably the best advice. Your QB is the most important player on the team, even if it's Geno.
 

Superman55

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this is from the cam newton fight thread. does the same apply to geno in he should not be getting into this situations? IK is to blame for taking the altercation up a huge notch and decking geno. but shouldn't it also be incumbent on geno to not get into the situation in the first place?

No. I dont think its the same at all. Players I bet get in heated arguments in the locker room all of the time...over football and non-football related topics. I even bet they get separated almost daily. However, I know in practice and pads players get into fights all of the times...but rarely without helmets and pads. Its usually olinemen and dlinemen fighting in pads and then going for drinks later.

Any time a players takes his helmet off to start a fight or in the middle of a fight, that is dangerous, man. For any player, super star or not.

These are 6'5 260lbs+ people throwing punches, in pads and helmet is one thing, once those come off, its a different work environment. i dont believe in violence to this level for any player or for anyone in the work place.

Im not saying that because of geno, if IK sucker punched Brick, id be just as pissed...especially off the field in no pads or helmet...
 

Superman55

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Yeah, so it was Golden Tate...again, facts help

Never heard of the Brett Favre one...probably no one has but you.

You're right. Season over. Geno was our only chance. Boo hoo SOJ

Jeez your s*** is so tired

Then ignore me...or you could just bitch about it...seems to fit you.
 

NCgreen12

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Probably not. Kerry Collins had a broken Jaw (multiples fractures)in 1997 on almost the exact same day and was back by week 4


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I remember that and almost to the day when Romanowski hit Collins in the jaw and broke it in a few places. The problem with coming back early is you might not have the strength because your not eating as well. Derek Stepan came back early a few years ago in the playoffs and did not play well for that reason. Hopefully, Fitz does the job and settles the argument. Not a lot to pick up off the wire right now. Not a Grossman fan.
 

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Our season is hardly over. Just have to ride the wave. Could be a blessing in disguise.
 

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I wonder if Geno is found to be primarily at faught here will the Jets cut him at the end of the year? I'm sure it wouldn't happen sooner but could or would they do it after this season? I mean this regime holds no difference to Geno. Guess that would all depend on how our current QBs do. Whomever the hell that may be.

Geno primarily at fault? I'm not any more informed about what actually happened than anyone else. But I know one thing: arguing with someone or putting a finger in someone's face never justifies getting your face pounded in. There's no question who's most at fault here. And he's unemployed right now. Probably for good. Hope it was worth it, IK.
 

Superman55

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I wonder if Geno is found to be primarily at faught here will the Jets cut him at the end of the year? I'm sure it wouldn't happen sooner but could or would they do it after this season? I mean this regime holds no difference to Geno. Guess that would all depend on how our current QBs do. Whomever the hell that may be.

If they cut him this year, its 350k saving on the cap. After this year is 1.1 mill...but he only counts 1.8...pretty cheap.
 

Elias

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Alright guys, this thread is very chippy. Do not attack each other, just attack the posts.

I can't wait to read [MENTION=223]Green Jets & Ham[/MENTION]'s rant when he comes over.
 

hobson54

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i think we all agree that we should be pissed at IK for hitting and injuring any teammate in a fight, let alone your starting QB.

my question is should geno, as a supposed leader of the team, have done something to avoid the escalation of whatever led to IK's punch. admittedly we don't know the details of what happened. but it's being described as a school-yard situation and there was some back-and-forth between the two.

if this was the year geno was supposed to grab the starting QB job and take hold of the team, then as a prospective leader of the team, he needs to do more to avoid the situation. again, i'm not blaming him for what was obviously a cheap shot from IK. but he put himself in that position by engaging in a 6th grade level spat with a teammate and reportedly sticking his finger in IK's face. this situation must bring into question the level of maturity of geno, in what was being looked at as his make-or-break year to take hold of the starting QB position.

IK deserves the lionshare of blame for punching his teammate and breaking his jaw. but geno doesn't come out of this looking too good either.
 

jets82

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Geno primarily at fault? I'm not any more informed about what actually happened than anyone else. But I know one thing: arguing with someone or putting a finger in someone's face never justifies getting your face pounded in. There's no question who's most at fault here. And he's unemployed right now. Probably for good. Hope it was worth it, IK.
Yeah IK was cut but you know how the story is always stared towards the spotlighted player. I'm not saying Geno is at fault or could have avoided this but if he could or if he was at fault in this, just wondering do they cut him after the season.
 
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