Geno Smith Out 6-10 Weeks

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Superman55

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I'm being serious that the personal attacks need to stop.

I don't care if you guys think the other is retarded. You can have a respectful discussion without attacking one another.

Snarky comments are not appreciated. How many times do I have to tell you guys?

Okay. Okay. But that was drop the Mike quality and walk off the stage...you have to admit.
 

NickSINYC

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The only part of Nicks statements I don't agree with is everyone who said "they say the finger in the face" is unnamed....and from NY Daily News sources...i.e Mehta's sources...probably Pettine saw the finger from Cleveland...
I cant argue that I have not seen a name put to the 2 sources either
 

lounap23

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I cant argue that I have not seen a name put to the 2 sources either

The finger in the face commnet came from Ryan Clark first then Mehta jumped on it and confirmed through his source... Which as I have said before Mehta's source is Manish Mehta... So there is that
 

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Why he didn't show up is moot

A non profit organization IK is involved in sponsored an event for kids. 600 dollars was advanced to Smith when he agreed to attend to cover travel costs. Whatever the reason, Geno failed to show up. Such an advanced is NOT a gift. Geno was obligated to pay back this advance to this non profit organization.

For a month he failed to do so despite apparently being asked about it a number of times. Tuesday, according to eyewitness reports, IK asked again and Geno advanced toward him, stuck his finger in the face and said he wasn't paying him and said " What are you gonna do about it?"

Smith provoked the incident even accordingly to the NY Post article recently used to defend him by a poster

The guy is not fit to be the leader and starting QB of the Jets


do you have any evidence that geno said he wasn't gonna pay? i'd like a link to someone quoting him as saying that
 

hobson54

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Links?

Revis wouldn't comment if he did or didnt see the fight. Mangold saw the aftermath and said he wants to keep it in house. Colon said teammates shouldn't punch eachother, but they are both accountable. The only person to call this a "sucker punch" was Bowles. That was at the pre-practice conference. He then refused to call it a sucker punch at the post practice press conference.

Everyone is getting their crap from Schefter's report, that has now been challenged by Ryan Clark, Jenny Vrentas and Sports Illustrated.

Sorry.


actually, i posted an article earlier today that had all 3 of revis, mangold and colon using the word "sucker punch"

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/je...erans-shocked-devastated-by-locker-room-fight
 

hobson54

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You havent been posting in months...then you start posting again this is the best story the Jets can muster. Kind of sucks, huh.

Not something good like we resigned Mo, no additional suspension for Richardson, not even we traded geno for Aaron Rodgers...nah, teammates running around punching each other.

What a joke our franchise is...still...

I do think this will haunt our season and mediocre, 8-8, is best case scenario. What do you think, Hobson? is this something you honestly feel the Jets will shake off and make a play-off run? I think this will be a dark cloud that lingers into mediocrity at best until we have another off season to continue to restructure the roster.


i posted less during the off-season as it was dead time, and i had no interest in reading the geno debates ad naseuem. plus i was on vacation for a week and was busier at work, so had less free time.

as to the impact on the team, i don't honestly see any lingering effect. the players seemed to have been able to move on to fitz with no issues, and i'll just toss last night's clunker in the garbage pail for now. crappy pre-season game. don't take too much out of it.

before camp, i predicted we were a 8-8ish type team, with some upside to 9 or 10 wins if the QB play proved decent. honestly my forecast hasn't changed one bit in the last week.
 

Superman55

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i posted less during the off-season as it was dead time, and i had no interest in reading the geno debates ad naseuem. plus i was on vacation for a week and was busier at work, so had less free time.

as to the impact on the team, i don't honestly see any lingering effect. the players seemed to have been able to move on to fitz with no issues, and i'll just toss last night's clunker in the garbage pail for now. crappy pre-season game. don't take too much out of it.

before camp, i predicted we were a 8-8ish type team, with some upside to 9 or 10 wins if the QB play proved decent. honestly my forecast hasn't changed one bit in the last week.

Thanks for the reply.
 

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Why he didn't show up is moot

A non profit organization IK is involved in sponsored an event for kids. 600 dollars was advanced to Smith when he agreed to attend to cover travel costs. Whatever the reason, Geno failed to show up. Such an advanced is NOT a gift. Geno was obligated to pay back this advance to this non profit organization.

For a month he failed to do so despite apparently being asked about it a number of times. Tuesday, according to eyewitness reports, IK asked again and Geno advanced toward him, stuck his finger in the face and said he wasn't paying him and said " What are you gonna do about it?"

Smith provoked the incident even accordingly to the NY Post article recently used to defend him by a poster

The guy is not fit to be the leader and starting QB of the Jets

The last sentence is exactly how I feel now. It's not how I felt a week ago. Too many stupid off the field things that point to immaturity. Never mind the fact that Geno has showed how bad of a QB he can be. I will just be hoping Fitz can develop into a sufficient game manager or better. And more importantly stay healthy all season. And sooner than later, I hope Geno is cut just so we can move on.


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If i'm Maccagnen or Bowles i send a message to Geno and the entire team. I fine Geno at least 5 grand and then contribute that 5 grand to the charity IK was trying to promote.
Geno has derailed the beginning of the season by NOT doing the right thing and handling his business with any kind of maturity.
You are the starting QB of an NFL franchise and when i say starting i mean you NEED to play WELL to keep your starting job. You are the worst rated passer the last two seasons, you should've gave IK a thousand dollars just for asking you to attend that event.
By being childish/ immature/ selfish you might have cost yourself at the very least 2 to 4 games to prove yourself. If Fitzpatrick is playing well and theJets are doing good your ass will be on the sideline wishing you paid that money.
I was really looking forward to seeing if Geno had grown into a starting QB with all the offseason work, new coordinator and the new weapons.The good reports coming out of camp and such. Things should've been handled so much better.
I also am pissed we lost an OLBer that sounded like he was having a really good camp rushing the passer. It's not like the Jets are overstocked in that area.
 

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As much as I don't think Geno is the answer, I still need to see it to be sure. Not hoping Fitz fails/gets injured, but just as fate made sure Geno wouldn't start the year, I wouldn't mind seeing him put in a spot to prove himself once and for all (and I don't mean his infamous success in meaningless final games).

I have no problem cutting bait with the guy, I'd just like a little more proof than some here require . . .
 

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If i'm Maccagnen or Bowles i send a message to Geno and the entire team. I fine Geno at least 5 grand and then contribute that 5 grand to the charity IK was trying to promote.
Geno has derailed the beginning of the season by NOT doing the right thing and handling his business with any kind of maturity.
You are the starting QB of an NFL franchise and when i say starting i mean you NEED to play WELL to keep your starting job. You are the worst rated passer the last two seasons, you should've gave IK a thousand dollars just for asking you to attend that event.
By being childish/ immature/ selfish you might have cost yourself at the very least 2 to 4 games to prove yourself. If Fitzpatrick is playing well and theJets are doing good your ass will be on the sideline wishing you paid that money.
I was really looking forward to seeing if Geno had grown into a starting QB with all the offseason work, new coordinator and the new weapons.The good reports coming out of camp and such. Things should've been handled so much better.
I also am pissed we lost an OLBer that sounded like he was having a really good camp rushing the passer. It's not like the Jets are overstocked in that area.

I don't think that teams can fine players under the CBA.
 

mykcuz

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Incorrect. But I don't believe being delinquent to reimburse someone for airfare is in the realm of punishable. That would be appealed and reversed. You also can't fine a player for being a victim, even if his arrogance put the balk in motion.

One thing I haven't seen, are players coming out outraged that ik punched geno.

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its one thing if Geno lost out with competition..which he may have very well done..but to be happy w these chain of events is asinine.

.As a JEt fan I hope Geno does go to another team and wins a super bowl to rub it in all of the Jet fans that are glad this happened
 

McJet

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Its amazing how stupid Jet fans are for blaming Geno.....

Fitz, I blame Geno in the sense that he could've handled the situation better.
If the reports are true, that he was in his face waving a finger and saying " you aint going to do nothing about it". That's not good.
We may never know what really happened but if that is event close, then in my opinion he handled it the wrong way.
Again, i'm rooting for Geno,i would like to see him be an above average QB that the Jets can build around and win games with. That would take a lot off of the list of needs for this team.
Did he think he was going to get punched and his jaw broken, no. Did he put himself in a situation where it has an even remote possibility of happening, i think so.
 

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I saw a tweet that said, "Geno Smith was released from the hospital yesterday". For a second I was pretty excited.
 

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its one thing if Geno lost out with competition..which he may have very well done..but to be happy w these chain of events is asinine.

.As a JEt fan I hope Geno does go to another team and wins a super bowl to rub it in all of the Jet fans that are glad this happened

I'd be lying if I said I didn't agree with you. The Geno hatred around here is reaching absurd levels. I don't understand how anyone can root against any player wearing a Jets jersey.

Unless they break a guy's jaw, in which case, you cut his ass and let him go sign with the Bills.
 

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I'd be lying if I said I didn't agree with you. The Geno hatred around here is reaching absurd levels. I don't understand how anyone can root against any player wearing a Jets jersey.

Unless they break a guy's jaw, in which case, you cut his ass and let him go sign with the Bills.

I didn't hate and still don't hate Geno. I just see him for the person he is. I think he is too immature to be the starting QB of any team. He has plenty of arm talent, but no brains. This latest incident just made me see all the red flags and stupid things he has done that I overlooked in the past because I wanted him to be successful. Now its time to move on IMO.
 
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