Geno Smith Out 6-10 Weeks

[Superman55]

Marshall says everyone who has ever posted Geno put a finger in IK's face is full of shit...I looked across the posts on this site of people who said that...hey, he's right!



Brian Costello @BrianCoz
Marshall: "Did he point his finger in his face? No he didn't." on Geno and IK. Marshall says he witnessed incident. #nyj

 

[SackExchange]

Marshall is willing to make his statement with his name attached. I'm certainly willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

That doesn't fully negate Geno's role, but it places far more of it on IK's shoulders.

 

[sg3]

Very impressive

The guy who has been booted off a number of teams for being a bad locker room presence and who is currently living with (and probably sleeping with ) the defendant offers his unbiased eyewitness testimony that the glove didn't fit so the defendant is innoc
Here's the next step


Reporters will follow up with five or six of the players and staff that have been proven to have been there in the locker room and there will be 100 % corroboration that the defendant's BFF and eyewitness wasn't actually present in the room at the time the defendant was finger pointing and assaulting a Jet teammate he'd stiffed for $600

 

[sg3]

Marshall says everyone who has ever posted Geno put a finger in IK's face is full of shit...I looked across the posts on this site of people who said that...hey, he's right!



Brian Costello @BrianCoz
Marshall: "Did he point his finger in his face? No he didn't." on Geno and IK. Marshall says he witnessed incident. #nyj

Namecalling of other posters again

Some never learn

 

[jetkwondo]

Dan Leberfeld 6m .

"Us, as a team, we’ve moved on." - Todd Bowles on Saturday about the IK-Geno incident. Perhaps Brandon Marshall didn't get the memo.

Blogger / Podcaster

Have to agree with Leberfeld, as the time for Marshall to speak up was last week not after your HC says "We've moved on".

I really could care less on who did what at this point. Yesterday Ray Lucas said it was all avoidable if Geno had just written a check when he had backed out of attending IK's event. A true leader would have done that and solved the problem. In addition he said that those two were bickering about the money the whole week leading up to the punch and that the real issue was about respect. Geno doesn't have the full respect of that locker room and I can guess why after the way he handled this whole situation before the punch was ever thrown...

 

[hobson54]

Very impressive

The guy who has been booted off a number of teams for being a bad locker room presence and who is currently living with (and probably sleeping with ) the defendant offers his unbiased eyewitness testimony that the glove didn't fit so the defendant is innoc
Here's the next step


Reporters will follow up with five or six of the players and staff that have been proven to have been there in the locker room and there will be 100 % corroboration that the defendant's BFF and eyewitness wasn't actually present in the room at the time the defendant was finger pointing and assaulting a Jet teammate he'd stiffed for $600

so it seems that since marshall had the temerity to defend geno that marshall will now be the object of your derision.

i think you are more invested in hating geno than actually caring about the jets

:smiley-toilet05:

 

[jets82]

so it seems that since marshall had the temerity to defend geno that marshall will now be the object of your derision.

i think you are more invested in hating geno than actually caring about the jets

:smiley-toilet05:

I do agree 1000 percent

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

It doesn't matter at this point. Those who hate Geno will continue to blame him at all costs, and minimize statements from Marshall and now Decker, who've said "we've got his back", among other things. It's becoming more of a personal thing with some fans, who seem hellbent on seeing Geno tarred and feathered.

If you don't want Geno as the QB, that's fine. There's some good reasoning behind it. But the spin around here is getting into some really far out places. Our beat writers are feeding this beast with constant opinion and speculation.

 

[flgreen]

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Why the Geno Smith Era is Over
Posted: 08/17/2015 10:02 am EDT Updated: 54 minutes ago

Reduced to a punchline, out for 6-10 weeks due to a broken jaw, liked by few and admired by none, Geno Smith and his era for the New York Jets must finally come to an end.

Let me be very clear. There is no dispute that Geno was the victim of physical violence. This is regrettable, unjustifiable and could require legal remedy. But at the same time, an entire franchise and fan base have been the victims of his emotional immaturity. I would personally be ecstatic if my assessment of Geno ultimately proves wrong. But we can simply not forget his theatrics when he was passed over (for good reasons as it turned out), in the first round of the NFL draft; or how he lost his cool and yelled an obscenity to a heckler after a home defeat to the Detroit Lions; or how he missed a team meeting in the west coast with a lame, dimwitted excuse, prior to a 31-0 shutout to the San Diego Chargers.

We now learn that he got sucker punched by IK Enemkpali over a $600 dollar debt. Certain conclusions are thus inescapable: Geno cannot handle the bright lights of the Big Apple or the pressure that comes with the job of a starting QB. He is thin skinned, temperamental and exhibits poor judgment time after time. Because of him, the New York Jets dominate headlines for all the wrong reasons and become late night comedy fodder. And let us not forget who drafted him: John Idzik, a perennial candidate for worst GM in the history of the NFL.

Geno Smith is not a leader. Period. It would have been simply inconceivable for a Peyton Manning or a Joe Namath or [enter here the name of any great QB] to be shown such disrespect and punched for an off the field reason by a teammate. The best NFL players are like generals who inspire their troops to battle, valor and sacrifice. What we witnessed in the Jets locker room was akin to mutiny. Tellingly, Jets players simply did not bother to come to Geno's defense. Some apportioned blame to both sides, others to Geno himself. Ultimately, it does not matter. We now have proof of what we have long suspected: Geno cannot and should not be in charge of the Jets.

Admittedly, character flaws and bad behavior are sometimes overlooked due to phenomenal performance. Defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is widely considered to be a very dirty player, but that did not stop the Miami Dolphins from awarding him a $114 million contract. The problem with Geno is that he is a nightmare of a player, a turnover machine (his career TD-INT ratio is 25-34) who routinely panics if his first read fails. Word was that he had improved in practice but that is almost meaningless absent real conditions. We do not award Super Bowl rings for training camp or preseason.

Where do the New York Jets go from here? Ryan Fitzpatrick is now the starting QB. He is a cerebral veteran, but it remains to be seen how much gas he has left in his tank for his 11th season in the NFL. Bryce Petty is a work in progress who if developed properly might be the future face of the franchise. Possibly another veteran such as Matt Flynn will be brought in to provide depth in the QB position and some insurance if Fitzpatrick is injured early in the season. Within a vastly improved AFC East, the prospects for the New York Jets season look bleak. But the Jets will fly again. There is every reason to trust HC Todd Bowles and GM Mike Maccagnan. But not Geno Smith. His days as a starting QB should be finally over.

MORE: Afc East Bryce Petty Football Geno Smith IK Enemkpali Joe Namath Mike Maccagnan Ndamukong Suh NFL New York Jets Ryan Fitzpatrick Todd Bowles
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arist...fo_b_7992036.html?utm_hp_ref=sports&ir=Sports

 

[jets82]

I amazing how some posters make anything negative with Geno or the Jets period into the worst thing on earth. Its as if their not really Jets fans at all. But on the flip side, anything mediocre like Fitz they praise him as if he's the savior. Like as if God just fed the needy that hasn't eaten in days.

Trying my best to ignore the ignorance, its clear that this situation is all or mostly Geno's fault. I said it before, I can understand why he got punched in the jaw. This shows a true sign of Geno's leadership and immaturity being a real issue and non-existent. Just off that alone he shouldn't be the starting QB of the Jets.

We all get that but please lets not act like Fitz is a savior. He is mediocre at best. Bring that I am a true Jets fan, if Fitz can help this team get to the playoffs I will regrettably root and watch. But I truly do hope Petty will be ready to go next year and be our franchise QB. If not him, then draft some one dammit.

 

[Jets31]

In my two decades in the NFL, I never heard of a player with a fireworks injury. I also never experienced a quarterback being punched (although I did treat a quarterback who injured his hand punching someone).

The unique Geno Smith story continues. He was released from the hospital Saturday after plates and screws were inserted on Friday. The next day he was seen throwing outside his apartment complex.

His jaw was not wired shut, indicating stable fixation. The fact that he felt well enough to throw is another good sign. The Jets told him to stop due to infection risk, but that doesn’t make medical sense.

Much has been made that his jaw was fractured in two places, but that is typical whenever a jaw is broken. Even when initial estimate for return was 6-10 weeks, I always thought it would be closer to six. With the news of presumed stable fixation without need to wire the jaw shut, he can eat immediately and return even faster.

Smith will need some extra protection against a hit, but medically there is no reason he won’t make the regular season opener. With the lost practice time and need to familiarize with a new coach and offensive system, it will be more likely a coaching decision than medical restriction if he doesn’t play Week 1.
- Dr. David Chao

This plus the fact that they haven't signed a QB is telling.

 

[sg3]

so it seems that since marshall had the temerity to defend geno that marshall will now be the object of your derision.

i think you are more invested in hating geno than actually caring about the jets

:smiley-toilet05:

Actually caring about the Jets would require wanting the worst QB in the NFL 2 years running to be removed as the starting QB before he could ruin a third one.

Thankfully, Smith brought that about all by himself by welshing on a debt, stiffing a charity formed to help disadvantaged kids and then assaulting and threatening a teammate for asking him about it.

If that's the sort of leader you wish for the Jets, that's fine. Doesn't work for me, so I guess I'm not, by your definition a Jet fan

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Regarding the above column, why the Geno era is over, I think thats a little premature.

I would agree that his Jets career as a starter is over if Petty was ready, but he's not and I don't share people's enthusiasm for Fitzpatrick. I think he's limited in what he can do because he wasn't blessed with a big league arm. Thats not his fault and it doesn't make him a bad person, but IMO he's limited and because he can't make all of the throws, the offense will be limited as well. I hope I'm wrong or we can work around his limitations and win games regardless, but I think its 50-50 at best that Fitzpatrick will grab the bull by the horns and NOT give this job back to Geno.

 

[hobson54]

Actually caring about the Jets would require wanting the worst QB in the NFL 2 years running to be removed as the starting QB before he could ruin a third one.

Thankfully, Smith brought that about all by himself by welshing on a debt, stiffing a charity formed to help disadvantaged kids and then assaulting and threatening a teammate for asking him about it.

If that's the sort of leader you wish for the Jets, that's fine. Doesn't work for me, so I guess I'm not, by your definition a Jet fan

i'm fine with the criticism of geno. i was skeptical of him going into the season, but willing to give him a shot and let the coaches decide what was best for the team. and i've been critical of his role in this altercation, saying it reflects poorly on him.

but now you are going to the next degree, making ridiculous claims that brandon marshall is probably sleeping with him? i know you didn't mean it literally (well actually i can't be sure, since it appears nothing is beyond the realm of possibilities of the vile spewed by jets fans at a QB who they don't like). but it just continues a disturbing trend of attacking anyone (poster, jets player) who may actually stick up for geno.

btw - still waiting for you to backup your post the other day about geno saying he wouldn't pay IK (see post #649 in this thread, which i questioned you in post #665 ). i see you again are repeating these claims that he was stiffing the charity and welshing on a debt. again, i ask for actual evidence.

 

[sg3]

i'm fine with the criticism of geno. i was skeptical of him going into the season, but willing to give him a shot and let the coaches decide what was best for the team. and i've been critical of his role in this altercation, saying it reflects poorly on him.

but now you are going to the next degree, making ridiculous claims that brandon marshall is probably sleeping with him? i know you didn't mean it literally (well actually i can't be sure, since it appears nothing is beyond the realm of possibilities of the vile spewed by jets fans at a QB who they don't like). but it just continues a disturbing trend of attacking anyone (poster, jets player) who may actually stick up for geno.

btw - still waiting for you to backup your post the other day about geno saying he wouldn't pay IK (see post #649 in this thread, which i questioned you in post #665 ). i see you again are repeating these claims that he was stiffing the charity and welshing on a debt. again, i ask for actual evidence.

The evidence of Geno Smith's failures to pay back monies advanced to him to attend an event for needy kids has been reported and corroborated about 70 times since the altercation. As have the eyewitness reports as to his finger in the face and challenging a teammate to "do something about it".

I'm sure you can find these multiple eyewitness corroborations without my help

Apparently one player disputes these facts and he also happens to be Smith's number one (and maybe only) friend and supporter on the team.

But maybe you are right. This solitary unsubstantiated report from Marshall proves beyond all doubt that, as someone said earlier, Jet fans who doubt Geno are "full of sh*t"...

And "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit!"

 

[Old#15]

It doesn't matter at this point. Those who hate Geno will continue to blame him at all costs, and minimize statements from Marshall and now Decker, who've said "we've got his back", among other things. It's becoming more of a personal thing with some fans, who seem hellbent on seeing Geno tarred and feathered.

If you don't want Geno as the QB, that's fine. There's some good reasoning behind it. But the spin around here is getting into some really far out places. Our beat writers are feeding this beast with constant opinion and speculation.

Its always been a personal vendetta for some folks here.

 

[jets82]

i'm fine with the criticism of geno. i was skeptical of him going into the season, but willing to give him a shot and let the coaches decide what was best for the team. and i've been critical of his role in this altercation, saying it reflects poorly on him.

but now you are going to the next degree, making ridiculous claims that brandon marshall is probably sleeping with him? i know you didn't mean it literally (well actually i can't be sure, since it appears nothing is beyond the realm of possibilities of the vile spewed by jets fans at a QB who they don't like). but it just continues a disturbing trend of attacking anyone (poster, jets player) who may actually stick up for geno.

btw - still waiting for you to backup your post the other day about geno saying he wouldn't pay IK (see post #649 in this thread, which i questioned you in post #665 ). i see you again are repeating these claims that he was stiffing the charity and welshing on a debt. again, i ask for actual evidence.

Trust me, he has none but just to make Geno look bad or have something negative to say about Geno, he will say it even if he can't back it up.

 

[sg3]

Trust me, he has none but just to make Geno look bad or have something negative to say about Geno, he will say it even if he can't back it up.

Meanwhile the fanclub of TWO keeps calling other posters names

 

[hobson54]

The evidence of Geno Smith's failures to pay back monies advanced to him to attend an event for needy kids has been reported and corroborated about 70 times since the altercation. As have the eyewitness reports as to his finger in the face and challenging a teammate to "do something about it".

I'm sure you can find these multiple eyewitness corroborations without my help

Apparently one player disputes these facts and he also happens to be Smith's number one (and maybe only) friend and supporter on the team.

But maybe you are right. This solitary unsubstantiated report from Marshall proves beyond all doubt that, as someone said earlier, Jet fans who doubt Geno are "full of sh*t"...

And "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit!"

and i've seen reports that geno said he would pay him back. now i agree that geno was delinquent in paying him back and rightfully should be criticized for that and for letting the situation getting to the point it did. but nowhere has it been shown that geno said he won't pay him. we don't know what the quote "what you gonna do about it" was in reference to. you just assumed that geno told IK that he would never pay him back.

i'm not really looking to defend geno. he shares responsibility for letting the situation get to the point it did. but given none of us know exactly what went down, we can't just assume geno told IK he would never pay him back.

of course this is all irrelevant. you hate geno and now you seem to hate anyone who actually defends geno. i look forward to your posts this coming year deriding and mocking marshall...

 

[SackExchange]

I'm surprised at the level of childishness. I probably shouldn't be, as there were obviously a few of those types on the old scout who made it over here. And maybe I'm naive, but it just seems like some of the attacks here are so petty and juvenile, it's ridiculous.