Hackenberg to start over

[maxmet]

I know Penn State was terrible

But can anyone who follows them explain what happened to Hack - in terms of misuse/system etc? I know he got hit a bunch, but surely there is more to it

 

[butterscotch]

Before we throw darts we were not on the field. Maybe he was that bad or messed up.

 

[SackExchange]

Bowles/Mac?

Mac, not so much. Bowles, you can certainly say he should have had a better handle on the job the offensive coaches were doing.

Then again, he gets blasted by some for being an idiot. Why would those who think Bowles is an idiot want him to be more involved with the team?

 

[SackExchange]

franklin should be ashamed of himself for what he did to the kids career..
but he didn't draft him in the 2nd round..

This is where Mac gets the blame. The pick. It was a huge reach. The kid was damaged goods, and was overdrafted by Mac.

 

[TonyFtLaud]

I know Penn State was terrible

But can anyone who follows them explain what happened to Hack - in terms of misuse/system etc? I know he got hit a bunch, but surely there is more to it

I don't follow Penn St very closely but I remember on grudeGr QB camp , Hack and Gruden comparing film from his first year and then when Franklin took over and Gruden asking him why he changed his footwork and Hack saying that was what Franklin wanted. Gruden told him he had to forget everything Franklin taught him and go back to what he was doing before.

 

[SackExchange]

I know Penn State was terrible

But can anyone who follows them explain what happened to Hack - in terms of misuse/system etc? I know he got hit a bunch, but surely there is more to it

Basically, when O'Brien was there, he was running more a pro-style offense, using him in the pocket and the such. Franklin is more of a college up-tempo single back spread system, with read option and the such. It basically negated Hack's best skills and made him play out of system.

I prefer a coach who adjusts his system to the talent he has, rather than someone who tries to make the talent fit the scheme.

 

[Elias]

I don't follow Penn St very closely but I remember on grudeGr QB camp , Hack and Gruden comparing film from his first year and then when Franklin took over and Gruden asking him why he changed his footwork and Hack saying that was what Franklin wanted. Gruden told him he had to forget everything Franklin taught him and go back to what he was doing before.

Here’s that video.

 

[butterscotch]

This is where Mac gets the blame. The pick. It was a huge reach. The kid was damaged goods, and was overdrafted by Mac.

amen brother

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

Basically, when O'Brien was there, he was running more a pro-style offense, using him in the pocket and the such. Franklin is more of a college up-tempo single back spread system, with read option and the such. It basically negated Hack's best skills and made him play out of system.

I prefer a coach who adjusts his system to the talent he has, rather than someone who tries to make the talent fit the scheme.

Regarding the last point, this is why I was skeptical of drafting Mayfield. I don’t believe in drafting a QB and having to construct an entire offensive system around him. The RPO might be gaining some popularity in the league, but we don’t have time to find new players and a new OC to fit that system. I read that Bates was screaming “Put the pick in!!” (for Darnold) when the Giants selected Barkley.

That tells you all you need to know.

 

[SackExchange]

Regarding the last point, this is why I was skeptical of drafting Mayfield. I don’t believe in drafting a QB and having to construct an entire offensive system around him. The RPO might be gaining some popularity in the league, but we don’t have time to find new players and a new OC to fit that system. I read that Bates was screaming “Put the pick in!!” (for Darnold) when the Giants selected Barkley.

That tells you all you need to know.

That says it all. And he's an OC who is a QB guy, so I trust his enthusiasm.

 

[NewMFS62]

I prefer a coach who adjusts his system to the talent he has, rather than someone who tries to make the talent fit the scheme.

That's what I've posted before about what was said by another coach about Bear Bryant, "He can coach his and beat yours and then coach yours and beat his".
Later

 

[jetgreen13]

Regarding the last point, this is why I was skeptical of drafting Mayfield. I don’t believe in drafting a QB and having to construct an entire offensive system around him. The RPO might be gaining some popularity in the league, but we don’t have time to find new players and a new OC to fit that system. I read that Bates was screaming “Put the pick in!!” (for Darnold) when the Giants selected Barkley.

That tells you all you need to know.

interesting stuff..

where did you read this & can you post it here??

 

[Old#15]

That's what I've posted before about what was said by another coach about Bear Bryant, "He can coach his and beat yours and then coach yours and beat his".
Later

Great quote, and so true about the truly great coaches.

 

[SackExchange]

That's what I've posted before about what was said by another coach about Bear Bryant, "He can coach his and beat yours and then coach yours and beat his".
Later

I love that quote.