How did it all go bad so fast?
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Bad so fast? GM built this team as a short term win now. I've been a loyal Jets fan for 48 years & now after watching this team quit while being paid millions to play hard, I'm thinking of moving on. I can handle Jets losing as long as Players play their personal best. No shame as a Player & Fan in that. But to be a fan of a team of quitters & pay money for 48 years on Jets gear & memorabilia & fly over to east coast to watch games is not happening any more. Why should I care & give them my money if the entire Jets ORG. & Players dont care about their own product they put on the field? I've never seen a more disgusting Jets team as this current team. Embarrassing, disgraceful, bunch of conman & deserve to be called NYC 2nd team of CLOWNS.
Again Look at big mac
He is trying to build a team so he brings in Vets to be leaders
But he brings in Losers
Fitz & marshall etc.
YOU BRING IN WINNERS MAC not losers
He is trying to build a team so he brings in Vets to be leaders
But he brings in Losers
Fitz & marshall etc.
YOU BRING IN WINNERS MAC not losers
That's what bugs me. All the things that were supposed to be his positives have been disasters.
More accountability? He goes and backtracks on questioning the team's effort Monday night.
More discipline? Giacomini is still a 2-penalty-per-game player, you get starting DL with big money not showing up to meetings, and Mevi$ is collecting a paycheck despite having retired after last year. The team makes mental and physical mistakes all over the place.
Great defense? It's mid-afternoon Thursday, and the Colts just scored again.
Great secondary? The team has gotten torched all year long.
Great pressure? Seven sacks against the Bengals. Have they had seven since?
He was supposed to be the anti-Rex, instilling discipline and accountability to this team. He's done neither. Nor has he been aggressive.
I'm sure if they could have brought in Vonn Miller or Brady, they would have. Most guys who are winners aren't exactly on the free market.
That's why you try to draft and develop winners.
i think he believes continuing to publicly kissing his players asses is going to help him keep his locker room..
thing is, you can't keep something you've already lost..
just another part of what it takes to be a successful HC that eludes him.. go figure..
I do agree with the D & D but marshall & fitz were big losers...I mean the top of their class...You can't any bigger...well maybe with Tebow
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Last year, both were instrumental to the team being 10-6. In many seasons, that gains a playoff berth.
But losers lose when the spot light is on.......there must be a reasons they get passed on by all their teams for years......We can't fire all coaches & GM's in football. LOL
Look A-roid won one WS but he was a loser also. You play enough years you get lucky once in a while.
Richardson has time but as of now he is one too.......I once saved a women from drowning in LI but she tried to drag me down with her......lets hope Mo does not go down with Richardson. This is what big mac needs to get rid of folks...losers & we have many of them.
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Look Billy boy picked up Revis at the right time.....think about it a guy going to the hall but has no ring Incentive.....winners win & losers lose that simple
After starting 5-5 last year, the Jets had six must-win games. They went 5-1 in them.
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Well, regardless of why you thought this team would be better, you are definitely correct in asking the question....How did it all go bad so fast?
IMO, this is a perfect storm of a lot of factors:
1) MUCH harder schedule than last season
2) An OL that was in desperate need of retooling and Mac summarily dismissing the need.
3) A HC that everyone thought was a Parcells disciple. Todd Bowles is the farthest thing from a Parcells disciple as I've ever seen.
4) Everyone thinking this team was much better than it was based on a cupcake schedule last season and the Jets winning 10 of those games.
5) A complete surprise in Revis' meteoric decline.
6) Complete laziness on the part of many veterans that were considered to be the bread and butter players. The guys you could always rely on to show up.
7) Resigning Fitz. I fell for the hype. I admit it. I still 100% believe Todd Bowles made the right choice in quarterbacks though? The pressure on Bowles and Mac would be far worse IMO if he had gone with Geno Smith. Geno Smith is terrible and everyone knows it.
Now there could be others, but these are the ones that I can think of. Either way this team is even worse now than they were in 2014. Mac has basically turned around nothing on this team. He should know that he is in full rebuild mode at this point. You keep the good, young, promising players and pretty much overhaul the rest of the roster..........
I agree with most of this. Resigning Fitz was probably necessary based on what we have at QB. I still would have let him retire before I paid $12M. Let year more than half of his TD's were jump balls won by the WR's. And there could have been another 10-15 INT's. I would have played Geno before I paid Fitz $12M. I know he sucks, but we weren't going to be good anyway and Fitz's ceiling is 8-8 especially vs good teams and probably worse. There is not one good defense that was scared of Fitz. They salivate when they see him on the schedule. So out of the 7 things you listed, Fitz is by far the biggest reason for this teams plight. Mac has a ton of work to do, but they need to get younger and not play for wins. Surely he will get a stud in next years draft.
They are still losers you forget there are others on the team......when it counted the most they folded like Geno after a punch.
Maybe big mac likes losers around him...time will tell
To be honest, when it counted most, they went 5-1.
If you want to ignore the previous five games, fine. I am not about to do that.
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What's really worrying is what is highlighted? You are absolutely correct that they shouldn't play for wins. However, the Jets play a pretty bad 49ers team tomorrow and I am very worried they may win? It would be typical Jets for them to start winning now with virtually no chance at the playoffs and possibly end up with another year of Todd Bowles.
I am hoping that they lose out. If they finish 3-13, that ensures they will get a great player and hopefully that bad of a record would make Woody make a change.....
But when it was really on the line that final must win game was very telling.
And the topper is he loses to the coach that was fired. Between those two loses to Rex last year and this years shitshow , I don't know how Woody lets it go on.
i don't think you can base Bowles's success on the losses to Rex. It doesn't matter who he lost to, tbh.
Also, this stench of a season goes beyond Bowles and Mac. the real problems are Tannenbaum and Idzik. Tannenbaum for years was trading away our picks. He never enabled us to get any depth because he would trade those picks away like they are worthless. As for Idzik, only four of his 19 draft picks are still on this team. If at least ten of them were still here we'd have better depth. Mac had a hard task building this team to a contender. He tried last year by splurging but now that the honeymoon period is over and the schedule is rougher it has proven to be a terrible idea. Mac is on his way to developing a good team. We just need to have some patience and let his players pan out.
Mac has given us Leonard Williams, Darron Lee, Robby Anderson (like Ham says, I haven't seen a player get this much separation in a long time in a Jet uniform. He will break out with Hack/Petty), Mauldin, Jordan Jenkins, Burris, Charron Leake, Lachlan Edwards. These people are not superstars but they are capable players who will give us solid depth in the future. A lot of these people barely play because Bowles is stubborn.
Now the question is whether or not Bowles is a good coach to lead this team forward. I think not. We need someone who is aggressive and innovative. I think he's clueless. The punt against the steelers when the whole world knew we weren't getting the ball back sealed the deal for me.