How much of our failure can be blamed on Woody?

Elias

The Invisible Man
Big Fish
Jet Fanatics
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Many people give him a lot of crap but I really think that Woody has brought a lot of consistency to this franchise but something seems to go wrong. The recent trend for the team whenever a new HC starts is that we win and then we cant regain that winning formula, rinse and repeat. It has happened with all of our coaches in the Johnson era.

He has hired Herm Edwards (3 winning seasons; 2 post season wins), Eric Mangini (2 winning seasons, 0 playoff wins) Rex Ryan (2 winning seasons; 4 playoff wins).

Anyways, what is it that we lack or Mr. Johnson lacks that other winning organizations have?

The article below by Cimini got me thinking. Johnson just doesn't know what he wants and is too impatient to stick to a plan.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=new-yorkjets&id=48955&city=newyork&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyjetschat.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D53153%26pid%3D378859%26st%3D0%26%22%7D


Woody Johnson means well. I believe the man desperately wants to win a Lombardi Trophy -- he's more competitive than people realize -- but he's a pendulum when it comes to his team-building philosophy. And that's one of the reasons why the New York Jets haven't won a championship.

On Wednesday, the Jets' owner made an appearance on ESPN New York 98.7 FM, and he was asked by host Mike Lupica if he imposed spending restrictions on former general manager John Idzik. In 2014, the Jets had the league's lowest payroll at $99.4 million, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

Johnson's response:

"I would never tell the general manager not to spend money. That's something the general manager has to do. I mean, that's his chief job. That's the most important job he has to do, spending and putting together the 53, plus the practice squad

"I'm not going to say to him, 'Save it.' That's ridiculous. We're in this to win it. ... We're in the win business. Reserving firepower in terms of cash for some future date is not part of the makeup of the New York Jets. We will spend what we are allowed to spend, to try to make us as competitive as we can be."

This is what Johnson told reporters Oct. 2, when he defended Idzik's conservative spending habits:
"That's one of the reasons I hired him, because he is deliberate, he does look at these decisions in a holistic way in terms of how they're going to affect the team's long-term success. I think he's very good at that.

"We're trying to build through the draft. We'll do an occasional free agent, but the free-agent market isn't a panacea. We're trying to make wise investments to build a team through the draft.

"When I grew up, I always had a reserve, and you don’t spend your last dollar."

That's what you call a philosophical 180.

Looking back, maybe Johnson didn't issue a "Don't spend" edict to Idzik, per se, but he tacitly endorsed the approach by hiring someone with that philosophy. Idzik's successor, Mike Maccagnan, already has stated that he expects to be "very active" in free agency. So, now, Johnson is talking about being aggressive.

The pendulum is swinging the other way. Johnson supporters will say he's entitled to change his mind, especially after 4-12 season, but this isn't the first time he has altered his approach. The most successful franchises adopt a philosophy and stick with it; they don't change based on the wind direction.

The positive here is that Johnson is returning to his comfort zone. For the most part, he has leaned toward the aggressive side during his 15-year tenure, perhaps because he had seven years with a GM (Mike Tannenbaum) who never took his foot off the gas pedal. The Jets need to find a happy medium. Maybe Maccagnan is it.
 

Jets31

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
Need to look no farther then the revolving door at QB.

Herm had success with a healthy Pennington.

Mangini had success again with a healthy Pennington and then while Favre was healthy.

Rex did well when Sanchez limited turnovers. Very strong defense and running game helped as well but Sanchez played his best ball in the playoffs.

Bowles will have success if any only if he can find good QB play. Who ever that may be.

QBs are the most important part of the team then HC.
 

isired

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
From what I've heard publicly, from the Herm/"I just want him gone" through handling of Rex, Idzik, Tebow, Revis, and everything in between, Woody is a big part of the problem. At least as much as anyone else, which means he's the biggest issue, since he's at the top and nobody else can fire or replace him.

I am glad he's got a football guy running things now, hopefully he'll let him do just that. When the owner doesn't know anything about football, you don't have the luxury of having a cap guy at the top of your player personnel chain. I hope he's learned from his mistakes there.

I have no inside info, and his bungling of the team and the stadium definitely has me biased against his skills as an owner, but that's how I feel.
 

Jets31

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
I really think people under estimate Woody and his knowledge. Yes he has had a strong learning curve over the 15 years but I think he has done a lot of good and seems to learn from his mistakes.

He has always been willing to try different things. Hopefully he got it right this time.
 
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CodieneWanKenobi

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Last year's failures were mostly on Idzik's shoulders. At least from what I could see. I still can't get over how he sat on all that money while watching players we needed get signed. If Woody was at some kind of fault he's definitely in a full speed effort to bring wins back to the Jets organization. I'm a fan of Woody.
 
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