I think Jet/Met fans are lucky.... fans need a football vacation until next september

[butterscotch]

Really we could use the break////////take a few months off & when baseball starts all the Met fans can have fun watching Tebow in spring training as he plays for the Mets.


Look we can't keep firing everyone every year or two...It takes time to turn things around... All I hear on this site is fire everyone all the time.......lets fire Tanny again......I forgot he made the playoffs........

 

[JohnnyBaseball1]

Well, maybe if we could ever hire anyone with any kind of track record, it wouldn't always be such a mystery as to whether our entire staff sucks or not.

And MAYBE if we could ever recognize that the game is tailored to OFFENSE now, and the rules favor OFFENSE now, we could stop hiring DC after DC to be our head coach, and finally decide to hire someone who knows how to score points for cryin' out loud.

 

[Flyboys89]

Really we could use the break////////take a few months off & when baseball starts all the Met fans can have fun watching Tebow in spring training as he plays for the Mets.


Look we can't keep firing everyone every year or two...It takes time to turn things around... All I hear on this site is fire everyone all the time.......lets fire Tanny again......I forgot he made the playoffs........

I know you love Bowles, but you really have to give it a rest with the past. This is the NOW. This is an offensive league, a "What have you done for me" league, and bowles has been outscored 116-26 in our last 3 games (2 at home). Utterly embarrassing. Especially for a so called "defensive guru."

Its one thing if his defense was our rock, and the offense/special teams has been horrid. But the defense has been worse than the offense arguably, and that's inexcusable. Buffalo fired Rex at 8-8, but we wont fire bowles? He needs to go

 

[butterscotch]

I know you love Bowles, but you really have to give it a rest with the past. This is the NOW. This is an offensive league, a "What have you done for me" league, and bowles has been outscored 116-26 in our last 3 games (2 at home). Utterly embarrassing. Especially for a so called "defensive guru."

Its one thing if his defense was our rock, and the offense/special teams has been horrid. But the defense has been worse than the offense arguably, and that's inexcusable. Buffalo fired Rex at 8-8, but we wont fire bowles? He needs to go

LOL we should model ourselves after Buffalo now that is a team I would follow.

Look This is not TB's team we need to get the rats out of the barn. I would give TB a C+ for last year & a D for this year but a gun without ammo is not a gun.

He needs one more year at least IMO.

It took Weeb five years to win. Funny how they bought in players to help him.

TB may end up being a bum HC but this s not enough proof....He is a very good man that may be a very good coach down the road.....If not we find the next Weeb

 

[butterscotch]

Well, maybe if we could ever hire anyone with any kind of track record, it wouldn't always be such a mystery as to whether our entire staff sucks or not.

And MAYBE if we could ever recognize that the game is tailored to OFFENSE now, and the rules favor OFFENSE now, we could stop hiring DC after DC to be our head coach, and finally decide to hire someone who knows how to score points for cryin' out loud.

I guess Denver won the SB with O last year...Or the Giants in 2007 0r 2011 Sure it is an O league but D can win

 

[NewMFS62]

I guess Denver won the SB with O last year...Or the Giants in 2007 0r 2011 Sure it is an O league but D can win

But the greatest team in history never won a 0-0 tie.
This team couldn't score at a Lawrence Taylor crack party.

Later

 

[SackExchange]

Really we could use the break////////take a few months off & when baseball starts all the Met fans can have fun watching Tebow in spring training as he plays for the Mets.


Look we can't keep firing everyone every year or two...It takes time to turn things around... All I hear on this site is fire everyone all the time.......lets fire Tanny again......I forgot he made the playoffs........

It's Jets fans. Not only do they want Bowles and Mac fired, they want the guys who would be replacing Bowles and Mac fired.

Jets fans aren't happy unless people are getting fired. And then they wonder why the team hasn't put it together.

 

[gastineau]

You are right Scotch! Lets take a look at Bowles as a Boss to OC/DC as Foremen/ Players as workers on a job. Bosses expect his Foremen & workers to be on time,not miss work, & do their job to the best they can working hard even whn the Boss isnt watching. Some Bosses are respected & Foremen & Employees do their Jobs out of loyalty. So if a Boss allows his workers to be late ,miss work & not work hard & not respected by Workers..HE IS FIRED! It was obvious that Bowles wasnt the respected leader on Cards team. That was shown in Cards vs Jets by the beat down ,running up the score while delivering big hits on Jets Players. This showed me that the HC of Cards is why they play hard, either from fear or respect or even him calling Players /team out publicly the Cards Defense still as good if not better after Bowles left. So my question to you Scotch is looking at Bowles as a Boss,Leader that isnt respected by Workers & is very slack on discipline ,is he still deserve to be Jets HC?

 

[SackExchange]

You are right Scotch! Lets take a look at Bowles as a Boss to OC/DC as Foremen/ Players as workers on a job. Bosses expect his Foremen & workers to be on time,not miss work, & do their job to the best they can working hard even whn the Boss isnt watching. Some Bosses are respected & Foremen & Employees do their Jobs out of loyalty. So if a Boss allows his workers to be late ,miss work & not work hard & not respected by Workers..HE IS FIRED! It was obvious that Bowles wasnt the respected leader on Cards team. That was shown in Cards vs Jets by the beat down ,running up the score while delivering big hits on Jets Players. This showed me that the HC of Cards is why they play hard, either from fear or respect or even him calling Players /team out publicly the Cards Defense still as good if not better after Bowles left. So my question to you Scotch is looking at Bowles as a Boss,Leader that isnt respected by Workers & is very slack on discipline ,is he still deserve to be Jets HC?

This is the argument many fans make for disciplinarians. Fans almost always want hard-nosed disciplinarians as their team's HC.

Oddly, Rex was enormously popular with Jets fans despite being the antithesis of a disciplinarian.

 

[gastineau]

BTW Scotch, you remember I wanted Woody to hire Mikey Mac & Bowles because of the Scoting & Defense skills. This Jets team isnt as bad as this. Jets lack 2 LB's & 2 CB/Safety on Defense & should have been addressed in Draft. Offense needs are Center Ive said for past 2 years & QB -big powerful RB & 2 O linemen. WR's are great & TE's is unknown because of Gaileys schemes. JETS are not in total rebuilding mode ,But Mikey Mac hasnt addressed Jets needs & instead gambled on huge hit or miss project players investing time & money in hopes they can play in 3 years. This isnt Bowles fault. But Bowles is responsible for his OC/DC & Players being out of shape, not playing hard & not firing his DC/OC for allowing this by Players. So I was completely wrong in my picks at GM/HC & ashamed to have wanted both of them. Mikey will draft based on speed & good freshman year again. Another words DART BOARD DRAFTING IDZIK STYLE, setting Jets back another 6 years if he keeps it up wasting picks.

 

[gastineau]

This is the argument many fans make for disciplinarians. Fans almost always want hard-nosed disciplinarians as their team's HC.

Oddly, Rex was enormously popular with Jets fans despite being the antithesis of a disciplinarian.

One thing about Rex is Players played hard for him knowing his job was on the line. Tell me if we have seen that by the current Jets Players doing that for Bowles. In fact the Players in last 3 games has got worse & was shown & called out on monday night football with video of Wilk-Richardson,Williams. Bowles must step up & fire his DC for allowing Players to do this & then take away starting job from players & point it out publicly after games when Players goof off like that. Bowles defending Players openly screwing him the last 3 games on National tv isnt very smart.

 

[butterscotch]

You are right Scotch! Lets take a look at Bowles as a Boss to OC/DC as Foremen/ Players as workers on a job. Bosses expect his Foremen & workers to be on time,not miss work, & do their job to the best they can working hard even whn the Boss isnt watching. Some Bosses are respected & Foremen & Employees do their Jobs out of loyalty. So if a Boss allows his workers to be late ,miss work & not work hard & not respected by Workers..HE IS FIRED! It was obvious that Bowles wasnt the respected leader on Cards team. That was shown in Cards vs Jets by the beat down ,running up the score while delivering big hits on Jets Players. This showed me that the HC of Cards is why they play hard, either from fear or respect or even him calling Players /team out publicly the Cards Defense still as good if not better after Bowles left. So my question to you Scotch is looking at Bowles as a Boss,Leader that isnt respected by Workers & is very slack on discipline ,is he still deserve to be Jets HC?

good post Gas!!!!!! Bowles did not build the cards D he was the middle guy...So I only give him part of the credit there....


But while there the players played hard for him & the owner & the HC. The cards do play hard for BA but not as much this year...I have the same answer for both...Get rid of the losers........

In this case we have a team of losers from Izzy, Big mac, woody etc.

We need talent & winners not fitz or Marshall types.

 

[Fudbutter]

Funny, after over 100 combined seasons of Mets/Jets I don't really feel that lucky

 

[butterscotch]

Funny, after over 100 combined seasons of Mets/Jets I don't really feel that lucky

you should the worse part is behind you now.......only 16 more years to catch the Cubs:global (31):

 

[gastineau]

you should the worse part is behind you know.......only 16 more years to catch the Cubs:global (31):

If Mets sign another Bat,Mc Cutchen maybe, the Mets should be right back in Playoffs with bats & Pitching. But if Mets dont sign another good average batter we wont make it this year. Mets havent got better& havent added anyone this off season while Nats,Cubs,Philly & Braves all gotten better & Mets rollin the same team as last season.

 

[SackExchange]

One thing about Rex is Players played hard for him knowing his job was on the line. Tell me if we have seen that by the current Jets Players doing that for Bowles. In fact the Players in last 3 games has got worse & was shown & called out on monday night football with video of Wilk-Richardson,Williams. Bowles must step up & fire his DC for allowing Players to do this & then take away starting job from players & point it out publicly after games when Players goof off like that. Bowles defending Players openly screwing him the last 3 games on National tv isnt very smart.

Oh, I agree with you about that. Guys played hard in particular games for Rex. He could definitely get guys up for games.

But it was inconsistent. They would lapse into complacency because they knew they would not be held accountable over the course of a season. Rex always had their backs.

As for Bowles, it troubles me just how often his players came out flat, and how seldom he called out the effort. There were several games where they just did not show up at all.

 

[SackExchange]

Funny, after over 100 combined seasons of Mets/Jets I don't really feel that lucky

I'm 42. I am a Jets/Mets/Rangers fan. That means I should have 126 total seasons in those three sports, minus the two seasons where there was no title (MLB strike, NHL lockout). So out of 124 or so seasons, I've seen two titles. Two. 86 Mets and 94 Rangers.

That's brutal. Not Cleveland brutal, but not good.

 

[butterscotch]

I'm 42. I am a Jets/Mets/Rangers fan. That means I should have 126 total seasons in those three sports, minus the two seasons where there was no title (MLB strike, NHL lockout). So out of 124 or so seasons, I've seen two titles. Two. 86 Mets and 94 Rangers.

That's brutal. Not Cleveland brutal, but not good.

You could claim the (MLB strike, NHL lockout years as champs.....hey nobody was any better then you those years

 

[SackExchange]

You could claim the (MLB strike, NHL lockout years as champs.....hey nobody was any better then you those years

Had the 1995 lockout in the NHL cost the league the whole season, I would have. I would have said it took 54 years for the Rangers to win the Cup, but they held it for two straight years.

 

[butterscotch]

Had the 1995 lockout in the NHL cost the league the whole season, I would have. I would have said it took 54 years for the Rangers to win the Cup, but they held it for two straight years.

the rangers record was worse then the Cubs IMO....pretty bad lol