If DT- Leonard Williams is on the board when we pick @ #6 ....

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This was my reaction to this thread, and everything I said below when this thread was posted still stands:

Its a good question because you never know, its highly unlikely he falls to 6, but anything is possible.

If it happens he would be real hard to pass on, but if we take him that means switching to a base 4-3, which is fine with me because we're talking about a super unit on the front four, and with our rebuilt secondary that spells H-E-L-L for QB's.

BASE FRONT FOUR

DE Mo Wilkerson
DT Sheldon Richardson
DT Leonard Williams
DE Quinton Coples

Or you could go Williams & Coples at the ends, Wilkerson and Sheldon inside.

SHORT YARD/GOAL LINE

DE Mo Wilkerson
DT Sheldon Richardson
DT Snacks
DE Leonard Williams

Its a great five man rotation too because Snacks can sub in for all four of them, whoever needs a blow, because all of our D-Tackles have DE versatility, so any one of them can shift outside if he subs for an end, and in todays NFL your DL's all need a blow, its too taxing in the trenches, if they play every down they'll be sucking wind in the 4th Qtr, so your 5th Man is like the Nickel in todays NFL, a quasi starter, another justification for taking Williams if he slides to 6.

Lastly, taking Williams and shifting to a base 4-3 essentially eliminates the need for a 3-4 Rush OLB. Now we can just draft a 4-3 OLB later in the draft, and those guys (unlike the 3-4 edge rushers) are not at a premium, so you can get a damn good one after the first round.
 
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There is no way in hell we are taking Leonard Williams. Yes, I would bet my house on it. We have arguably the best DL in the NFL. On the other hand, we have one of the oldest and slowest LB groups, our OL is average at best, and we probably have one of the 5 worst QB units in the NFL. But let's ignore all that and make sure we add some more depth on our DL that's already stacked with pro-bowl caliber players.

To me this is like the Packers trading their 1st round pick for Tom Brady. Ya, they just acquired one of the 10 best players in the league but got absolutely no better on the field.

can't wait to settle into my new house...
 

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There is no way in hell we are taking Leonard Williams. Yes, I would bet my house on it. We have arguably the best DL in the NFL. On the other hand, we have one of the oldest and slowest LB groups, our OL is average at best, and we probably have one of the 5 worst QB units in the NFL. But let's ignore all that and make sure we add some more depth on our DL that's already stacked with pro-bowl caliber players.

To me this is like the Packers trading their 1st round pick for Tom Brady. Ya, they just acquired one of the 10 best players in the league but got absolutely no better on the field.

You lost the house !
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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You lost the house !

I'm not gonna say I told ya so, because honestly, I was surprised by the Williams pick.

Value-wise, it was a great pick. Williams was widely considered a top 3 pick. I was CERTAIN he'd be gone. This pick crowds an already crowded defensive line. Our depth is insane right now. I've gotta think the Jets will deal Wilkerson. I don't see how they can't, unless they plan on using a lot of 4-3 alignments.
 

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I'm not gonna say I told ya so, because honestly, I was surprised by the Williams pick.

Value-wise, it was a great pick. Williams was widely considered a top 3 pick. I was CERTAIN he'd be gone. This pick crowds an already crowded defensive line. Our depth is insane right now. I've gotta think the Jets will deal Wilkerson. I don't see how they can't, unless they plan on using a lot of 4-3 alignments.

Point is not the only one disappointed, I wanted White. I don't give a rats ass if the guys is a consensus top 3 value pick or BPA... we didn't need this guy IMHO. Very disappointed we took another DL when we need WR, OL, OLB....
 

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This potential scenario could play out as follows: ......

1- Tampa Bay - Jameis Winston
2- Tennessee - Marcus Mariota
3- Jacksonville - Dante Fowler Jr.
4- Oakland - Amari Cooper
5- Washington - Brandon Scherff
6- NY Jets - Leonard Williams (?????)
That is pretty damn amazing.
 

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First off not going 4-3. Bowles D is 3-4 but he loves big mobile DL guys to move around all over the place and Williams, Wilkerson., Richardson, Douzable all fit that bill. Plus Harrison isn't a 4-3 DT and neither Richardson or Wilkerson are 4-3 DE. With that said. You will find our base 3-4 varied and you will find Wilkerson,Williams and Richardson standing up at OLB and Doing some crazy blitzing from time to time. Bowles will have a field day with this personnel.


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Point is not the only one disappointed, I wanted White. I don't give a rats ass if the guys is a consensus top 3 value pick or BPA... we didn't need this guy IMHO. Very disappointed we took another DL when we need WR, OL, OLB....

This pick sounds like the Jets feel like Mo will be hard to sign. And maybe they think Sheldon will be difficult as well. I think if we get Devin Smith or DGB that will make people forget about White. I'm going to trust the GM and HC right now who by the way seem so cool and like they have a plan when they are together. Unlike the buffoons of the last 6 years.
 
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This pick sounds to me like the Jets looked up at #6 and saw that the #1 best football player on their board and in the entire draft was sitting there and still available.
 

jets82

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This pick sounds like the Jets feel like Mo will be hard to sign. And maybe they think Sheldon will be difficult as well. I think if we get Devin Smith or DGB that will make people forget about White. I'm going to trust the GM and HC right now who by the way seem so cool and like they have a plan when they are together. Unlike the buffoons of the last 6 years.
I'm with you. I hated the Williams pick but I trust in the new regime 100%. Plus, I know Williams is the best ranked player in the draft period. So how can we be but so upset with this pick. I'm sure they have a plan in play here and I'm guessing Mo is about the get traded.
 

Bronx

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Why trade Mo? Probably our best player. Please stop. We will have a relentless D line, that will rotate for 4 Quarters. Injuries will be less of a concern as well. You keep your good football players. Have we learned anything from Revis?
 
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Why trade Mo? Probably our best player. Please stop. We will have a relentless D line, that will rotate for 4 Quarters. Injuries will be less of a concern as well. You keep your good football players. Have we learned anything from Revis?
Bronx nails it

I get the distinct feeling that Bowles might just be able to find a way to get the best overall football player in the entire draft into his defense for the Jets

Maybe WRECKS would have had to convert him to a LB or safety to fit him into one of those 11 rigid and unchangeable positions required to play Pop's 46 defense, but all we have heard about TB is that he and his DC are excellent at adapting their scheme to match the strengths of the players they have.

So, I guess I don't see the anxiety, doubts and negativity of the few who are upset with adding the best overall player in the draft to his roster
 
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If Kate Upton knocked on your door wearing a red teddy and holding a bottle of Dom Perignon, would you let her in?

I swear to god there's a Fat girl in there just itching to get out, buyer beware. I give her 5 years at best.
 
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Why trade Mo? Probably our best player. Please stop. We will have a relentless D line, that will rotate for 4 Quarters. Injuries will be less of a concern as well. You keep your good football players. Have we learned anything from Revis?

In most cases yes, but if you can move him for a top 20 NFL QB, you do it in a heartbeat. A top 5 DT is a great thing to have, but a great to very good QB is far more valuable and far more impactful to a teams success. This pick gives the Jets options they didn't have before.
 
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