If Petty falters badly draft Trubisky at all costs ...

[lounap23]

I know the argument, he will be the next Sanchez. To inexperienced... Don't do it....... and look at their college stats

Comp ATT Comp% Yds Y/A AY/A TD INT QBR
Sanchez Collegee stats 313 487 64.3 3965 8.1 8.3 41 16 153.9

Trubisky College Stats 363 533 68.1 4482 8.4 9.2 39 8 159.9


Almost Identical in every category except Trubinsky threw half the ints..... But still eerily similar.... So here is my case for drafting this kid if and only if Petty shows us he can't be at worst a serviceable starter.

1. I am all for drafting a QB every year till we hit a home run... I don't care baout any other implications... NO QB = No shot at winning a Superbowl in this era...

2. The Texans passed on Derek Carr becuae he was the brother of David Carr.... yeah that makes sense they are 2 different people 2 different QB's one's faliure will has nothing to do with what the other will do.... Think Houston would love to go back in time and draft Derek Carr... You bet your ass they do...

and lastly

3. Sanchez had the tools... Sanchez had some progress going and then the CS and the FO killed his development early and assumes he was ready to be "the guy"... Well he was close but he wasn't ready. Tom Moore was our OC consultant in 2011... Sanchez had some great games that year all of them when Moore was called in to help gameplan and work with Mark..... Mark was ruined by us and never recovered...... I think if we had a guy like Moore as our QC from Day 1 of Sanchez we wouldn't be here now.

I have said it before a QB needs 3 things to succeed in the nfl
1. Talent/Skill/Leadership
2. The Right System
3. The right HC.

Sanchez was never in the right system and never had the right coach... I don't know if Trubisky will fit this system and I don't know if we have the right coach for him but I do know If you have a QB with the skills, size, leadership ability that he has available when you are picking, you pick him if you don't have a franchise Qb on your roster.

Just my two cents

 

[Elias]

What about Petty? Are you completely writing him off? He hasn't been on the field yet nor had the opportunity to fix his mechanics. Trubisky will be good but the team is flawed. There's no oline and for that reason, I am very afraid of having a young inexperienced qb behind center. That can ruin him more than anything.

 

[lounap23]

What about Petty? Are you completely writing him off? He hasn't been on the field yet nor had the opportunity to fix his mechanics. Trubisky will be good but the team is flawed. There's no oline and for that reason, I am very afraid of having a young inexperienced qb behind center. That can ruin him more than anything.

Like I said in the subject line - IF PETTY FALTERS.... So to elaborate on that... If Petty shows at best he is a competent backup and nothing more then we need to get Trubisky.... I am a huge fan of Petty... I bought his jersey the day after the draft... I personally think with in game experience he will develop fantastically...... But if he isn't showing signs of improvement, showing he can be a good starter then go get the NC kid.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

If you are picking top 6 then that player needs to be a can't miss and Mitch can definitely be a huge miss.

 

[lounap23]

If you are picking top 6 then that player needs to be a can't miss and Mitch can definitely be a huge miss.

Not many QBS are can't miss and a lot go in the top 6.. But like Gretzky says you miss every shot you don't take.... Gotta take the shot. Everytime you have a chance

 

[jetgreen13]

Not many QBS are can't miss and a lot go in the top 6.. But like Gretzky says you miss every shot you don't take.... Gotta take the shot. Everytime you have a chance

lets forget about petty for a moment.. what of hackenberg in this equation??

we give up on a 21 year old 2nd rounder before he even gets a chance to work on his mechanics, with whomever will be his coaches next off season??

it just seems like a very hard "sell" maccagnan would have to present to johnson without sounding incompetent..

 

[JohnnyBaseball1]

lets forget about petty for a moment.. what of hackenberg in this equation??

we give up on a 21 year old 2nd rounder before he even gets a chance to work on his mechanics, with whomever will be his coaches next off season??

it just seems like a very hard "sell" maccagnan would have to present to johnson without sounding incompetent..

Hmm, my best argument is that QB talent is always at a premium, and if by some chance we wound up with two guys who could play, it wouldn't be the worst thing. Not sure how to split reps etc. but maybe it could be done.

 

[Fudbutter]

What is the point of having three undeveloped QB's? You'd have to throw out Petty or Hack because you cannot practice and train three. With 5 questionable spots on the o-line, no TE and skill position players either ageing or unproven, there is little chance a rookie or sophomore QB can put points on the board. You do not want to create another David Carr. Build the rest of the team first, starting with a LT and then build the rest of the line

Besides, 4 games is not enough to evaluate a young QB.

 

[lounap23]

lets forget about petty for a moment.. what of hackenberg in this equation??

we give up on a 21 year old 2nd rounder before he even gets a chance to work on his mechanics, with whomever will be his coaches next off season??

it just seems like a very hard "sell" maccagnan would have to present to johnson without sounding incompetent..

You hope for the Brees/Rivers scenarios.... The 2nd rounder plays great and you have to decide if the 1st rounder will be betetr and move appropriately in the coming years... For all I care.. Petty shows to be a decent starter the Jets keep him... Jets draft Trubisky.... Petty gets the nod to start the season... Petty takes off like a rocket to stardom and both Hack and Trubisky show they will be great in the NFL too..... Not gonna happen but keep taking a QB till anyone of them shows to be the franchise QB... I don't care if they are 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th , 7th or UDFA's till you have the guy keep picking till you have the guy...

 

[Elias]

I say our best bet is to go after glennon and let the three young guys battle it out.

 

[lounap23]

I say our best bet is to go after glennon and let the three young guys battle it out.

As I have said in many other posts the 2 QB's I would target in the offseason are

1. Nick Foles
2. Mike Glennon

But that's only if Petty isn't cutting the mustard and depending on where we are picking I still take Trubisky

 

[NCgreen12]

First off I don't think Mitch will be there when we draft. In the end he will be the 1st or 2nd guy off the board. The Jets will probably win one more game and move to the 6-8 slot. So unless they are willing to trade up which we will have to give up a lot then we won't get him. Like Mitch a lot but not to give up the farm.

We need help on the offensive line. I would consider a repeat of the 2006 draft with the first two picks a Tackle and Center. We could even trade down cause there isn't a tackle rated that high. Then our QB no matter who it is will have a fighting chance.

 

[lounap23]

First off I don't think Mitch will be there when we draft. In the end he will be the 1st or 2nd guy off the board. The Jets will probably win one more game and move to the 6-8 slot. So unless they are willing to trade up which we will have to give up a lot then we won't get him. Like Mitch a lot but not to give up the farm.

We need help on the offensive line. I would consider a repeat of the 2006 draft with the first two picks a Tackle and Center. We could even trade down cause there isn't a tackle rated that high. Then our QB no matter who it is will have a fighting chance.

You are probably right that Mitch won't be there when we pick..... Only 2 kids worth taking at OL is Cam Robinson Alabama and Mike McGlinchey Notre Dame but the McClinchey kid might not even come out... after that the best OL prospects aren't worth a top 10 pick, and for that matter not really 1st rounders.... Though this draft is deep for 2nd, 3rd and 4th Rd OL prospects

 

[usapaw]

Pass. Good luck tomorrow night Bryce!

 

[Bigmoe]

Besides, 4 games is not enough to evaluate a young QB.

And to that:
This is why this coaching staff , front office , owner , created this blunder.
In a season that's been lost since ummmm,, the preseason, we ( The Jets ) have not evaluated anything . Other than Fitz sucks, 90% players quit, OC,DC, and yes HC also suck.

So now we throw away another year next year " evaluating " talent. The NFL has moved past the 3-5 rebuild with quick turnarounds, last to first teams, and a win now perspective ( too much $ envolved )except the Jets . I really don't have any faith as to
where this team is heading . South

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

I like Trubisky alot.

Yet with Bryce, it would be horrible to just judge him on just 5 games and then cut ties. I feel it would set a horrendous precedent to any young QB that steps into that locker room come 2017.

"We'll give you a year and 1/2 to understand every intricacy of NFL defenses, if not, we'll move on".

I'am not going to sugar coat it, Bryce looks very raw out there. Though thats how he learns from his experiences and grow from his mistakes to work as hard as possible in the off season to come in '17 and compete with Hackenberg for the starting Role. Thats what happens during the development of a young gun.

If the chance is there to draft yet another young QB, i say yes, you take it and have all three QBs bust their asses to be the one to separate themselves from the pact. If not, build around Bryce and Hack.

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

And to that:
This is why this coaching staff , front office , owner , created this blunder.
In a season that's been lost since ummmm,, the preseason, we ( The Jets ) have not evaluated anything . Other than Fitz sucks, 90% players quit, OC,DC, and yes HC also suck.

So now we throw away another year next year " evaluating " talent. The NFL has moved past the 3-5 rebuild with quick turnarounds, last to first teams, and a win now perspective ( too much $ envolved )except the Jets . I really don't have any faith as to
where this team is heading . South
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I've been advocating this since Fitz threw those 7 picks in KC.
He should have been benched in favor of any of the young QBs. There was no discipline from the coaching staff whatsoever.

Petty should have been playing since the Dolphins game onward.

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

As I have said in many other posts the 2 QB's I would target in the offseason are

1. Nick Foles
2. Mike Glennon

But that's only if Petty isn't cutting the mustard and depending on where we are picking I still take Trubisky

I'd still sign either Foles/Glennon and keep Petty while also drafting another QB. Let them battle it out throughout the off season activities.

 

[jetgreen13]

I'd still sign either Foles/Glennon and keep Petty while also drafting another QB. Let them battle it out throughout the off season activities.

what about the "horrendous presedent" you spoke of 16??

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

what about the "horrendous presedent" you spoke of 16??

Your still giving Petty the legitimate shot at continuing to develop as he is one up on any FA QB as he knows the system. If he throws 3 picks every preseason game, atleast you'd have a contingency plan with either Glennon/Foles competing with Hack while grooming Trubisky.