Is it at all possible that Geno Smith has developed this year to being a real QB this year?

jets82

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Is it at all possible that Geno Smith has developed this year to being a real QB this year?

I get it Jets faithful, I like most of you don't believe in Geno anymore. Here's my question though in hopes our QB issue might be solved without us even knowing it. Geno is in his third year now with a new regime coaching him. They are obviously going to give him weapons on both sides if the ball to help him. QBs usually take 3 years to get it besides your few elites or QBs that go a team that helps them develop faster.

Plus, is there any guarantee we get Mariota draft day? We may be stuck with Geno people. Foles is gone so he's not a option anymore. There are no quality vets QBs worth mentioning, including Fitzgerald. Rumors have it the skins are seriously considering drafting Mariota now. There is also the possibilities of a team like the Browns or Texans trading ahead if us for Mariota.

So if were left with no options but to deal with Geno then is it possible that with this new regime, more and true legit weapons now. The draft possibilities and just the fact he is in his third year now, he may be ready to take the reigns here? Yes the Jets will most likely draft a QB anyway in the later rounds if they don't get Mariota but will that rookie beat out Geno.
 

Superman55

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I think he can be serviceable under Gaily, but I'm sure I'll be in the minority, this year. ;)
 

hokiejetfan92

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I know I am in the minority here, but I want to give Geno one more shot. I am all for signing Fitzpatrick and letting him be the insurance policy.

My plan for the Jets would be to draft Cooper/White or whatever the receiver Gailey wants in the first round. Maybe even trade down with the eagles and draft the wr then if they like someone who is less highly touted. I know with Marshall and Decker, wr might not be a need, but when was the last time the jets were loaded at the wr position? I have been able to understand football since about 2000/2002ish and I can say without a doubt never.

Geno is really inconsistent, but his first year Santonio Holmes was the best playmaker on the team. He did not even have a job til week 7 the next year, and he was only a slot. Last year, Geno was significantly better when Decker was on the field. The games he was hurt nobody could get open. I would love to see us go WR and have three beasts for geno to throw the ball to plus Amaro. If it doesn't work out then we have a team that is ready to win and only is missing a qb. Geno's terrible games were bad, but he has shown flashes of brilliance. I want him to get one more year at least
 

nycdan

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Possible? Of course. Last month I'd have said it was about as possible as Revis being a Jet again.

My best guess is that Geno's upside is about middle-of-the-pack. Maybe he can throw a few more TDs than picks this season (would be his first). if so, we'd have an outside shot at 9-7 and playoffs. I just don't think it's anywhere near the neighborhood of likely.

Bottom line is I can't recall any QB who went from that kind of TD-INT ratio to the inverse. Anyone got one?
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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I think he can be serviceable under Gaily, but I'm sure I'll be in the minority, this year. ;)

Geno can be decent and he has shown it. Gailey made really awful QB's into pretty good ones and Geno has more tools than Stewart and Fitz.
 

nycdan

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Geno can be decent and he has shown it. Bailey made really awful QB's into pretty good ones and Geno has more tools than Stewart and Fitz.

Bailey? Champ Bailey has actually done the opposite and turned pretty good QBs into awful ones :)
 
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I don't think we have any choice and I fully believe Cimini's report that this is the prevailing logic towards this year's team. I think anyone who believes Mariota is in play is deluded. We'll see how that plays out.

We'll get a lot of time to discuss this in more detail approaching the draft. I don't even consider Mariota and would take him off my board and I wouldn't be surprised to learn the Jets have already done so. The buzz Cimini gets is a plan to work with Geno and I think he's lacked the mentorship required of a young QB when Sanchez was competing and Vick didn't give a damn. Bringing in a veteran who can mentor him will get the most out of him towards better preparation and decision-making.

I think the Jets based on their free agency approach are most definitely going to target OLB with the first pick. Have they been linked with Worilds before he retired, Sheard, Orakpo or anyone else? No. There's a reason for this. They've made up their mind to target a pass rusher they can develop through the draft.
 

jets82

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Geno has shown slight flashes of being very good at least. Problem is he's shown more signs of being a bust and this scares me more. I have NO MORE FAITH in Geno but we may have no choice but to give him one more year and hope for the best.
 

hatnlvr

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Just call a spade a spade, we already know what we have in Geno and it isn't a starting caliber QB.
 
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Possible? Of course. Last month I'd have said it was about as possible as Revis being a Jet again.

My best guess is that Geno's upside is about middle-of-the-pack. Maybe he can throw a few more TDs than picks this season (would be his first). if so, we'd have an outside shot at 9-7 and playoffs. I just don't think it's anywhere near the neighborhood of likely.

Bottom line is I can't recall any QB who went from that kind of TD-INT ratio to the inverse. Anyone got one?

Yep, that's true. And maybe it's a lost cause. I wouldn't bet on him very much either. But considering the prevailing environment he had with the lack of playmakers and mentorship and Rex' insistence on defense being mentioned in every sentence, he had the cards stacked against him.

Obviously, no better options are available to us. We have to win in spite of the QB position and make the most out of what we have.

He'll have better WR's, better backup QB to lean on and let's say a better defense giving him the ball more and in better field position. That's all I got.
 

TurboJet

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If we do not land a true stud QB through trade or the draft I'm willing to give Geno one last shot.
And I say this very tentatively as I cannot take anymore of the horrific turnovers from last year.
He now has Marshall, Decker, Kerley , Ivory, TE (Amaro / Cumberland) to work with.
Let him go through training camp, learn Gailey's system, and lets see where the chips fall.
I wont say how many games I'd give Geno; it all depends on his performance.
If he doesn't produce with the current players / system then you have to move on for good.
 

jets82

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This is all a LONG LONG LONG shot but anything is possible, I guess! Maybe Miami packed it in the last game of the season and I won't argue that. If that's the case then this point is mute but if not, Geno looked damn good that day. He looked good against the Bears, Green Bay and I believe it was the Steelers or Raiders. Last year he looked good in about 3-4 games also. Problem is he looked horrible in 7-8 games and average at best in 3-4 and that should be about 16 games total. Point being, this reminds me ALOT of the Sanchez years and I have no faith in Geno because of this. Great thing for Geno now is its a new regime that is getting him real weapons and they appear to have a real clue. Plus this is his third year when QBs typically develop well. Guess we'll see!
 

Old#15

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He is also going back to a system that has many similarities to his college days. That comfort factor will help him a lot. I've got my fingers crossed, as any reasonable improvement from Geno would be monstrous for the organization. I also feel that getting away from Ryan's coaching or lack thereof will be a big factor. Ryan took a kid who was greener than green and threw him to the wolves. Perhaps its not too late, and Gailey can coax the talent to a more consistent level.
 
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sg3

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Sorry Jimmie Tomorrows of NYJF

NO

PIPE DREAM

Stunk as a rookie

Stunk.worse in year two

BUST

Fitz is better

Simms is better

Whoever we draft is better

Send Geno to the exit
 

Old#15

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Sorry Jimmie Tomorrows of NYJF

NO

PIPE DREAM

Stunk as a rookie

Stunk.worse in year two

BUST

Fitz is better

Simms is better

Whoever we draft is better

Send Geno to the exit

I think you are going to be disappointed - Geno will be day 1 starter.
 

Parcells123

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The problem with Geno Smith has always been from the neck up. Does he have the physical tools? Yes. But as every football fan knows, that's only 30% of the equation. He cannot read defenses, and when is under pressure does not keep his eyes down field. So the Jets have a QB who if the play unfolds exactly as scripted can complete passes. But if things break down, Smith cannot execute. And I don't get the sense he's smart enough to learn how to adjust to the changing defenses in the NFL.

Now in his defense, he has not been coached up in any meaningful way. Rex did a horrible job with him. Maybe Gailey can help him to get somewhat better. But I think the ceiling for Geno Smith is mediocrity, and in today's NFL, you can't win with mediocrity. You need a player who can engineer the game winning drive in the 4th quarter against a good team. Geno Smith will never be that player.
 
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