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Five things we learned at combine: Jets

February, 20, 2015
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By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com



INDIANAPOLIS -- Observed and heard Friday at the scouting combine regarding the New York Jets:

1. Jameis would be a legend in New York ... or a train wreck: Jameis Winston is a Type A personality all right. The former Florida State star displayed the "It" factor during his 15-minute news conference, controlling the room with his presence, his smile and, yes, his ego. Winston declared that he doesn't want to be compared to fellow quarterback prospect Marcus Mariota, as if that were beneath him. Instead, he said he wants to be mentioned with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Could you imagine if the Jets drafted Winston? His personality would make him a hit with the media and fans, but there's the dark side of the Winston package -- his penchant for making bad decisions off the field. He'd be a classic boom-or-bust pick for the Jets.

2. Free-agent plan coming into focus: After the talking to agents and personnel types, the sense I get is the Jets will attack the cornerback and guard positions in free agency. Cornerback is an obvious need, and it wouldn't be a surprise if they address it in free agency and the draft. Names to watch are Antonio Cromartie, Kareem Jackson, Byron Maxwell, Brandon Flowers and Darrelle Revis (if released). The Jets have two young guards in Oday Aboushi and Brian Winters, but it sounds like they'd like to add an established veteran. The big fish is Mike Iupati, who will be the most coveted player in the guard market.

3. South Beach calling: I'm hearing the Miami Dolphins, with former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum in a top executive role, could be one of the suitors for linebacker David Harris, a pending free agent. Let us not forget that Harris was one of Tannenbaum's best draft picks, a second-rounder in 2007. The Dolphins need a linebacker, so it makes sense. Harris also is expected to draw interest from the Buffalo Bills (see: Rex Ryan). The Jets want to keep Harris, and he'd like to finish his career in New York. The question is whether they can agree on a price. If he hits the open market March 10, there's a good chance they will lose him.

4. Honey, I shrunk the pass rushers: With the sixth pick, the Jets could be in position to grab one of the top edge rushers in the draft, the 3-4 outside-linebacker types. Thing is, some of the likely targets don't exactly push the scales. Randy Gregory (6-foot-6) checked in at 235 pounds. He reportedly was down to 218 recently because of an illness. Shane Ray (6-foot-2 1/2) is 245 pounds. Both are considered likely top-10 picks. Vic Beasley (6-foot-3) came in heavier than expected at 245 pounds and Dante Fowler Jr. (6-foot-2 1/2) was 261 pounds. Ideally, you'd like your rush linebacker to be at least 6-foot-4, 255-plus pounds.

5. Cap report: The union projects at the salary cap at $143 million, according to executive director DeMaurice Smith. That would represent an increase of $10 million from the previous year. That's great news for the Jets, who will have $42.1 million in cap space, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
 

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Five things we learned at combine: Jets

February, 20, 2015
Feb 20

8:00

PM ET


By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com



INDIANAPOLIS -- Observed and heard Friday at the scouting combine regarding the New York Jets:

1. Jameis would be a legend in New York ... or a train wreck: Jameis Winston is a Type A personality all right. The former Florida State star displayed the "It" factor during his 15-minute news conference, controlling the room with his presence, his smile and, yes, his ego. Winston declared that he doesn't want to be compared to fellow quarterback prospect Marcus Mariota, as if that were beneath him. Instead, he said he wants to be mentioned with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Could you imagine if the Jets drafted Winston? His personality would make him a hit with the media and fans, but there's the dark side of the Winston package -- his penchant for making bad decisions off the field. He'd be a classic boom-or-bust pick for the Jets.

2. Free-agent plan coming into focus: After the talking to agents and personnel types, the sense I get is the Jets will attack the cornerback and guard positions in free agency. Cornerback is an obvious need, and it wouldn't be a surprise if they address it in free agency and the draft. Names to watch are Antonio Cromartie, Kareem Jackson, Byron Maxwell, Brandon Flowers and Darrelle Revis (if released). The Jets have two young guards in Oday Aboushi and Brian Winters, but it sounds like they'd like to add an established veteran. The big fish is Mike Iupati, who will be the most coveted player in the guard market.

3. South Beach calling: I'm hearing the Miami Dolphins, with former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum in a top executive role, could be one of the suitors for linebacker David Harris, a pending free agent. Let us not forget that Harris was one of Tannenbaum's best draft picks, a second-rounder in 2007. The Dolphins need a linebacker, so it makes sense. Harris also is expected to draw interest from the Buffalo Bills (see: Rex Ryan). The Jets want to keep Harris, and he'd like to finish his career in New York. The question is whether they can agree on a price. If he hits the open market March 10, there's a good chance they will lose him.

4. Honey, I shrunk the pass rushers: With the sixth pick, the Jets could be in position to grab one of the top edge rushers in the draft, the 3-4 outside-linebacker types. Thing is, some of the likely targets don't exactly push the scales. Randy Gregory (6-foot-6) checked in at 235 pounds. He reportedly was down to 218 recently because of an illness. Shane Ray (6-foot-2 1/2) is 245 pounds. Both are considered likely top-10 picks. Vic Beasley (6-foot-3) came in heavier than expected at 245 pounds and Dante Fowler Jr. (6-foot-2 1/2) was 261 pounds. Ideally, you'd like your rush linebacker to be at least 6-foot-4, 255-plus pounds.

5. Cap report: The union projects at the salary cap at $143 million, according to executive director DeMaurice Smith. That would represent an increase of $10 million from the previous year. That's great news for the Jets, who will have $42.1 million in cap space, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

I do wonder if Tampa shocked people and didnt draft Winston, if Mac and Co wouldn't burn the Titans phones down trying to move up. That would be a shocker.

Free agents, CB is obvious, Jackson seems the obvious, Spiller seems likely, and I wonder why Franklin OG Den isn't a potential contact. That would be the OG I'd think would be a better fit than Iupati. His offense pounded Jackson and got Spiller out in space to make plays. He's needs OGs that can pull and move in space. I'm not sure Iupati is that guy.

I think it's 40-60 Harris comes back, 40% he stays, 60% he goes.

The pash rushing weigh-ins did surprise a little. Beasely got ripped and shed about 13 lbs, and I would have thought Ray and Gregory's weights would have been vice versa, I expected Ray smaller like 235 and Gregory around 245 with room to grow. If Ray moves well at 245, that's a big plus for him. I hope Gregory's illness didn't cause him to lose too much strength (he lost 25 lbs) and he can get back to normal by his pro day.

That cap room is before CJ2k is cut and something isn't worked out with Harvin. We also dont know if there's already players identified that don't fit their schemes they just cut now. I think our cap number will be about $10 mill more room when they're done if not more.
 
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Either I'm getting older, and just mellow, or Cimini is becoming a pretty good writer. I thought that was a good article. Good enough that I going to bore ya'll with my opinions of his points.

1) I've been touting Winston for over a year. But Cimini's right he is Boom or bust. This kid has the talent, and charisma to become a Super Star in NY. He fits.

He also has the potential to get in a lot of trouble. If for some bizarre reason the Buc's pass on him, I'd go up and get him from Tenn. I'm not going to say what I would offer (don't want to get booed off the board LOL)

If I was a new GM, I think that his upside is good enough that I would risk my career on it. If he hits his down side, I won't be GM again for awhile.

2) Agree with Cimini 100%. (that alone worries me) Have a post some where in our archives that I think he stole. LOL Just kidding

3) I hadn't of thought about that, but it's probably true. Don't think Harris will go to Miami unless they throw stupid money at him. Think he will finish his career a Jet (my preference) or he'll join Rex in buffalo.

4) I'm not real crazy to hear that Gregory came in at 235 up from 218. he's one of the guys I really like at 6. That's light for a 6'6" player.

5) It'll be 52 when they part ways with Harvin and draft Duke Johnson in the 3rd. :)
 
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