Jets’ Defense Cannot Make Up For Lack Of Elite Quarterback

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Mainejet

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I really like this article. It really puts things in perspective for the Jets season.....



Jets defense has been a force to be reckoned with for several seasons, but that has never allowed them to win big. This year, that will not change.


In the New York Jets’ first two games of the season, they steamrolled their opponents and won by a margin of at least two scores. Starting quarterback Geno Smith suffered a busted jaw—at the hands of a teammate, embarrassingly. This seemed like a case of “everything happens for a reason” with Ryan Fitzpatrick taking over the offense and throwing two touchdowns in both games.

The Jets also bolstered their defense in the off-season, overhauling their secondary with the re-addition of cornerbacks and ex-Jets teammates Darrelle Revis, who will go down as one of the best cornerbacks in the history of the NFL, and four-time Pro-Bowler Antonio Cromartie. New York also added CB Buster Skrine and safety Marcus Gilchrist.

The Jets have long been known to have strong defenses, though. In the Rex Ryan Era, the Jets finished 2009 with the number one defense in the league under the outspoken head coach. They also won the Wild Card Playoffs and were one game away from the Super Bowl, falling to the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC Championship Game.

Ryan’s sophomore year in New York was similar. The Jets finished second in the AFC East with an 11-5 record and had the third-best defense in the league. They won the Wild Card Playoffs in a rematch against the Colts, but fell in the Championship Game once again, this time to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

With the exception of 2013, where the Jets were 11th-best, New York had a top ten defense throughout Ryan’s tenure. In that time, the Jets made the playoffs twice but were never able to get over the obstacles that were presented by turnover-prone QBs and a general inability to move the ball in the air. This year is no different.

In their Week Three 24-17 loss against the Philadelphia Eagles, Gang Green was without two key offensive pieces, and it showed. Wide receiver, Eric Decker, suffered a sprained knee and did not play in the game. This led to a lot of ugly moments in the pass attack with splashy WR acquisition, Brandon Marshall, throwing a lateral that resulted in an Eagles touchdown, as well as three Fitzpatrick interceptions.

Running back, Chris Ivory, was also out due to a quad injury which caused the Jets to rush for just 47 yards and forced Fitzpatrick to throw 58 times, the same amount as games one and two combined.

The much-lauded defense also made a number of mistakes, allowing an 86-yard punt return and missing crucial tackles. They are good enough for it to be safe to say that they will not under-perform for a second straight game—they rank number one in points allowed, takeaways, and red zone efficiency, so far—but when the defense does have an off day, it does not seem that the offense will be able to get close to making up for it.

In the Eagles game, the Jets were not able to score until seconds before halftime. They had five three-and-outs in their first six drives, and ended with four turnovers.

The Jets are meeting the Miami Dolphins across the pond, at Wembeley Stadium, for a divisional contest this Sunday, starting off the NFL’s 2015 International Series.

Decker is iffy for this matchup, and the offense will also be without tight end, Jeff Cumberland. Ivory, however, will be starting the game, which means Fitzpatrick will undoubtedly throw less.

The fact that the higher the number of throws the quarterback makes, the lower the chance his team has to win, is problematic. The Jets can have the best defense in the league, but in their game against Philadelphia, their offensive weaknesses were exposed. Without a more reliable QB, the team will never be able to finish on top.
 

Bigmoe

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Well,
So far we're #1 in points allowed
And #4 overall
Lets see if Fitzy has a bounce back game even though IMO , I think he didn't do too bad
Just the batted balls at the line of scrimmage kind of did us in and the Marshall 2 goofs
If " we " mouse in pocket, can win , tomorrow , I'd be ecstatic
Was really hoping, For 2-2 at this point , but now we're all greedy
Go JETS!!!!!!!
 

NYJETSDAN16

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You're glad we have Ryan Fitzpatrick as our QB? You mean you're happy with being 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 every season? Sorry but I'll pass....

Its either that or become a 4-12 team with Geno. Atleast Fitz gives us a better chance to win than Va'Geno Smith.
 
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Mainejet

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And it also doesn't mean we should sit down and die. A lack of options is merely an area to improve upon. That's why I don't like settling and saying, " Atleast Fitz gives us a better chance to win than Va'Geno Smith". That's a cop out and that's only THIS season. If we continue to strive to get better by picking more quarterbacks, at least TWO young prospects at a time, we are increasing our chances at finding our guy.

And YES, Geno sucks and should be cut after this season. He's terrible and it is brutally obvious to anyone with eyes.
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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You're glad we have Ryan Fitzpatrick as our QB? You mean you're happy with being 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 every season? Sorry but I'll pass....

We don't have a choice and we were 4-12 last year so since we are competitive then I'm happy. Unlike you I'm waiting to see what happens this season. Fitz won't be QB for more than 2 years max anyway. It must be miserable watching the Jets at your house.


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OCCH

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IMO the title is pretty stupid -- if your defense needs an elite QB, it must not be that good in the first place.

Could the 2000 Ravens win with Fitz? I honestly believe they could. Unfortunately, we're not the 2000 Ravens,so I'm not saving up for SB tickets any time soon.

For now I'll ride with Fitz knowing he's likely our best option (until the CS thinks otherwise) and not condemn him when he doesn't reach the unrealistic goals some fans envision for this team . . .
 

Bronx

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The Qb debate is getting tired. We all know Fitz isn't elite, so stop beating a dead horse. Unless you have a immediate solution, it's really a boring topic, you're not breaking any news. We play the season with what we have, and take action in the offseason. That's all there is to it
 
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flgreen

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The Qb debate is getting tired. We all know Fitz isn't elite, so stop beating a dead horse. Unless you have a immediate solution, it's really a boring topic, you're not breaking any news. We play the season with what we have, and take action in the offseason. That's all there is to it

That's it.

Fitz is the best QB on the roster right now. And no, he's not elite.

Think we can still have a fun season with him as QB
 
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dabigyear

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Fitz gives the team a chance to grow while still grooming Petty. From 4 - 12 to 9 - 7 this season would mean a big growth by this team.
Don't forget, we now have adults in the GM an HC positions.
Enjoy the season, win some games, enjoy the wins, it's been a long time since this team has had this many adults running the show.
Stop trying to jump into the playoffs from the bottom of the heap, leave that to Walt Disney.
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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That's it.

Fitz is the best QB on the roster right now. And no, he's not elite.

Think we can still have a fun season with him as QB

Some people are only happy complaining about things that can't be changed at the moment.
 
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Mainejet

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We don't have a choice and we were 4-12 last year so since we are competitive then I'm happy. Unlike you I'm waiting to see what happens this season. Fitz won't be QB for more than 2 years max anyway. It must be miserable watching the Jets at your house.


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Yes, it is miserable watching Jets games at my house as a matter of fact. Being "competitive" means NOTHING to me. It means sh*t. It means we fell short of the ultimate goal ONCE AGAIN. So what is it now? FIFTY years and counting? I don't care about being a one and done playoff team unless it is TRULY building toward a SB victory, Right now, the Jets have NO answer at the QB spot. NONE. So it's hard to believe that gaining a wild card in this season, only to get our a$$es kicked in the first round means something in my house. Football isn't like horse shoes and hand grenades. Close enough isn't good enough. In fact, it's ultimately FAILURE.
 

TebowCan'tThrow

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Yes, it is miserable watching Jets games at my house as a matter of fact. Being "competitive" means NOTHING to me. It means sh*t. It means we fell short of the ultimate goal ONCE AGAIN. So what is it now? FIFTY years and counting? I don't care about being a one and done playoff team unless it is TRULY building toward a SB victory, Right now, the Jets have NO answer at the QB spot. NONE. So it's hard to believe that gaining a wild card in this season, only to get our a$$es kicked in the first round means something in my house. Football isn't like horse shoes and hand grenades. Close enough isn't good enough. In fact, it's ultimately FAILURE.

It's just entertainment dude. I'm very competitive as well, but I know the last coach and GM left this team in a bad place with no talent and a bad culture. At least the GM, created lots of cap space.


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dabigyear

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This year, no Chris Ivory, no win. Seattle has the same sort of situation with Lynch.
...and Russell is not a hot as a lot of people claim.
Ivory will do his number on Miami.
 
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dabigyear

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You're glad we have Ryan Fitzpatrick as our QB? You mean you're happy with being 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 every season? Sorry but I'll pass....

Hey yoohoo, the team hasn't been 9 - 7 since Wrecks started wrecking it 6 years ago.
Be happy, take 9 - 7 and then go take a P.
We'll keep building the team next year.
 
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The Qb debate is getting tired. We all know Fitz isn't elite, so stop beating a dead horse. Unless you have a immediate solution, it's really a boring topic, you're not breaking any news. We play the season with what we have, and take action in the offseason. That's all there is to it

this end thread
 
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Mainejet

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Boy, does this article show today. With an elite QB today, we'd win by 50 all easy.
 

hobson54

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Yes, it is miserable watching Jets games at my house as a matter of fact. Being "competitive" means NOTHING to me. It means sh*t. It means we fell short of the ultimate goal ONCE AGAIN. So what is it now? FIFTY years and counting? I don't care about being a one and done playoff team unless it is TRULY building toward a SB victory, Right now, the Jets have NO answer at the QB spot. NONE. So it's hard to believe that gaining a wild card in this season, only to get our a$$es kicked in the first round means something in my house. Football isn't like horse shoes and hand grenades. Close enough isn't good enough. In fact, it's ultimately FAILURE.


so what is your solution? should we just go to the franchise QB store and buy one with woody's money???

was there a franchise QB out there this past off-season that we should have gotten? who in the draft should we have taken over williams so that we have our franchise QB? do you think bowles and macc don't know that it's easier to win with a franchise QB?

it's easy to bitch about not having a franchise QB. how about offering a solution?
 
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Mainejet

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so what is your solution? should we just go to the franchise QB store and buy one with woody's money???

was there a franchise QB out there this past off-season that we should have gotten? who in the draft should we have taken over williams so that we have our franchise QB? do you think bowles and macc don't know that it's easier to win with a franchise QB?

it's easy to bitch about not having a franchise QB. how about offering a solution?

Well, personally I thought the asking price to move up and grab Marcus Mariota was worth it. I also liked them taking Bryce Petty. I would advocate taking another QB in next years draft. In fact, I wouldn't stop until someone stands up and shows they can lead this team. The jets QB situation right now is a mess!
 
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