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Elias

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DeCosta is not leaving the Ravens. He has declined. Damn.
 

Xmarco

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He ALWAYS declines...May not want to be THE man...or somebody told him he will get the Baltimore job in a year or so
 
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Marrone is Reminiscent of Kotite

Marrone is Reminiscent of Kotite

NY Jets' interest in Doug Marrone is reminiscent of Rich Kotite days

If Doug Marrone, who was 6-10 and 9-7 this season with the Bills and was 25-25 when he coached Syracuse, is the end of the star search for Woody Johnson then he would have been better off staying with Rex Ryan, who has had much better results in pro football than Marrone has.
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Friday, January 2, 2015, 12:27 AM A A A



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Leon Hess hires Rich Kotite 20 years ago to help save the Jets. What happened next was a
1-15 season.

Once, with another Jets owner in another time, the owner couldn’t believe his team’s good fortune that a coach from another team, one with a record a lot better than Doug Marrone’s was at Syracuse or with the Buffalo Bills, had suddenly become available. That coach was Rich Kotite.

Leon Hess was the owner and he said at the time that he was “80 years old and I want results now.” So he got rid of Pete Carroll and he hired Kotite away from Philadelphia, where he had won 11 games in his first season and 10 games the next and made the playoffs. But Kotite faded at the end, and the Eagles got tired of him, even though his four-year record there was 36-28.

Oh, and Kotite was local, he sure was, a Staten Island guy, and that was supposed to be a big deal at the time the way it is supposed to be some kind of big deal that Marrone is from the Bronx.

“Rich is a fighter, a builder, a ‘deze’ and ‘doze’ guy, a leader, bringing the New York Jets back,” Leon Hess said.

It all happened so fast 20 years ago, the way things seem to be moving very fast with Marrone now that he has walked away from the Bills. You start to get the idea that it is as if this is the greatest opportunity for a New York team to hire a local guy since Bill Parcells. Or Lombardi.

The Jets' interest in Doug Marrone is baffling and could very well be a regrettable move if they follow through.
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The Jets' interest in Doug Marrone is baffling and could very well be a regrettable move if they follow through.

But if Doug Marrone, who was 6-10 and 9-7 this season with the Bills and was 25-25 when he coached Syracuse, is the end of the star search for Woody and what we assumed would be a crack committee that included Ron Wolf and Charley Casserly, then Woody would have been better off staying with Rex Ryan, who has had much better results in pro football than Marrone has.

It is worth pointing out again that the decisions that Woody has to make, replacing both John Idzik and Ryan, are the most important he has made since buying the Jets, because this is the lowest point for the franchise since Kotite came to the Jets and went 3-13 and then 1-15 and then Parcells did have to come here from the Patriots and save everybody.

But if Johnson is getting pushed or shoved in the direction of Marrone by Casserly and/or Ron Wolf, if this is all happening this fast when the smart thing is for Johnson to go get himself the best possible guy to be his next general manager, then he doesn’t look like an owner trying to make things right with what is a sorry operation right now.

He looks like a sucker. Or maybe a mark.


There is an old Parcells line that might be coming into play here, the one about some people in pro football not knowing whether the ball is blown up or stuffed.

This doesn’t mean Marrone is a bad football coach. He is just another coach looking for a job, even though he and his agent seem to have this idea that they have done something brilliant by leveraging Marrone away from the Bills with some big coaching jobs available in the league. You even hear that if the Jets have the incredible luck to get Doug Marrone to come coach their football team, he might have a say in who the next general manager is. And if that is true, what kind of cockeyed process are they running over in Florham Park?

Woody has to hire a new general manager first, and then if that general manager does all of his due diligence and he somehow decides that Marrone is the best man for the job — and not somebody just being agent-ed into the job — then by all means, bring Marrone here. But who thinks that will happen? The reason that you are supposed to believe that there is this tremendous momentum for Marrone to be the next Jets coach is because that is what Marrone and his agent want you to think, before Woody Johnson comes to his senses.

He has just seen, Johnson has, over the past two seasons how it usually goes in sports — not always, there are always exceptions, but most of the time — when a general manager brought in to try to turn around a franchise is forced to take on a coach he doesn’t want, or never would have hired. The result with the Jets was, wait for it, the lowest point for the team since the Kotite years.

The last thing the Jets want to do is relive the dark days of the Kotite era.
KEITH TORRIE/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
The last thing the Jets want to do is relive the dark days of the Kotite era.
Only now Woody talks about what “good news” it is that Marrone might be available. Yeah, maybe good news for the Patriots, and Dolphins and maybe even the Buffalo Bills, a team that sure did win nine games this season. Two were against the Jets. One was against a New England Patriots team basically taking a knee at the end of the regular season.

You see this all begin to play out this way, and wonder why in the world Woody or the Jets or guys such as Wolf and Casserly are acting as if there is some kind of meter running on this thing. Maybe it is true that Casserly — who gets way too much credit for the old Washington team, because he was the guy who followed Bobby Beathard — looks at Marrone and sees some budding coaching genius. But who else does?

Again: Woody Johnson hasn’t been a terrible owner with the Jets. He hasn’t. He did the right thing this past week, getting rid of Idzik when he got rid of Rex. Idzik needed to go and Rex needs a new team. But he can’t let this process get hijacked by this dumb narrative that somehow they have been presented this tremendous opportunity now that Marrone walks away from the Bills.

But somehow he says that it’s “good news” that Marrone is in play. Leon Hess said the exact same thing about another local guy once

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ucrenegade

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wow talk about desperate comparing marrone to kotite already.....got to give the guy a chance.
 
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flgreen

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wow talk about desperate comparing marrone to kotite already.....got to give the guy a chance.

It's the way the press is presenting it. Like Woody thinks he is the next Bill Walsh. Have no idea if that's true or not. If the Mehta's out there are correct and they are going to hire a GM because of Marrone, and not Marrone because the best GM wants him, this is very Kotitish.

I'm going to wait and see what happens, but in all honesty, I see Marrone as a very average HC, with a great agent in Jimmy Sexton. His problem with the Buffalo really worries me.
 
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Why Doug Marrone walked away from the Bills

Buffalo Bills head coach Doug Marrone exercised his option to leave the franchise.

Sal Maiorana, Staff writer 9:19 a.m. EST January 2, 2015

Doug Marrone produced a 15-17 record and no playoff appearances in two years with Buffalo.

Marrone was denied a two-year contract extension by team owner Terry Pegula.
He has already lined up job interviews with the Jets, Bears, and Falcons.

In the aftermath of Buffalo's asterisk-tagged season-ending victory over the half-Patriots Sunday, the last thing I thought I'd be doing on the inaugural day of 2015 was writing about an ex-Bills head coach.

I figured a 9-7 record, Buffalo's first winning season since 2004 — with one of those victories against the Green Bay Packers plus that win over New England, even though it lacked luster because Bill Belichick treated it like a preseason game — was more than enough to prevent Doug Marrone from getting the axe from new owner Terry Pegula.

Full steam ahead, I thought. Find a quarterback, improve the offensive line, do your best to keep this excellent defense together, and if all that happened, there was no reason to believe Marrone's Bills couldn't finally end their interminable absence from the playoffs in 2015.

And then Marrone quit. Pulled the rip cord on his golden $4 million parachute and bolted Buffalo before the bubbly began flowing on New Years Eve.

Echoing center Eric Wood's tweet that night, I sure didn't see that coming.


Now, it's chaos at One Bills Drive as reports throughout New Year's Day indicated just how disenchanted Marrone was while working for the Bills.

How did this happen?

Simple: Greed, insecurity and thin skin.

As was the case for many fans, Marrone frustrated me with his in-game management — the silly punts on fourth-and-short from the plus side of the 50-yard-line, his unimaginative offense that he entrusted to his in-over-his-head coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, and his inability to get anything out of the offensive line which was supposed to be his specialty. I didn't think he was a bad coach, just one who needed to be more aggressive in his approach.

I liked Marrone more as a guy than I did as a coach and I never had a problem with him personally. Sure, he irritated me with his insistence on not reading off the list of injuries at his pressers, and he wasn't always the best guy to quote for a story because he had a habit of rambling off course and never really answering your question. But I liked him.

He was occasionally a curmudgeon (believe me, it takes one to know one), but he could also be engaging and fun to chat with off the record. He always touts his pride about being a New Yorker (even if he was a down-stater), and though he was making $4 million a year, there was a certain blue-collar persona to him.

Well, I like him and his starchy white collar a little less today than I did Sunday after the Patriots game.

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Let's cut right to the chase: He took the money and ran. And then he apparently spit on the organization on the way out the door, reportedly speaking to Bill Polian and telling him the franchise was in disrepair, which seems to have dissuaded Polian from rejoining the Bills.

The incredible opt-out clause that Marrone's agent, Jimmy Sexton, somehow convinced the Bills' hierarchy to agree to when they hired him in 2013 revealed Marrone to be just like almost every other guy who works in the world of professional sports. They love to say it isn't about the money, but it's always about the money. Always. And power doesn't hurt, either.

All that talk of family, and team, and continuity, and doing what's best for the Buffalo Bills? Marrone did what was best for Marrone. Though, perhaps unintentionally, he did what was best for the Bills by leaving.

In the three days he had to wield his clear-cut leverage before the opt-out clause expired Wednesday at midnight, Marrone must have looked like an Olympic fencer whooshing his sabre at owner Terry Pegula knowing no matter what, he was still getting $4 million free and clear.

Sources say what he specifically asked for was a two-year contract extension for himself, and extensions for his coaching staff so that the assistants were all on the same cycle. They were off kilter because he had to bring in several new coaches in 2014 after Mike Pettine took several of his guys to Cleveland last year.

Marrone's NFL record is 15-17, yet he was asking Pegula for a hefty raise, an additional two years at a cost of $8 million.

Pegula said no to it all.


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Upon hearing that, Marrone's insecurity kicked in. One source said he was uncomfortable about the prospect of a new football czar being hired to oversee the operation. Marrone is maniacal about the details — remember, it took the Bills four days of interviewing before he agreed to come aboard because he was so nit-picky about everything. The uncertainty of what the future held, whether he could get along with that man personally as well as professionally, and how much control he'd have over the roster really weighed on him.

According to reports, Polian was seriously considering returning to Buffalo until speaking to Marrone. Polian told the Buffalo News Thursday that once Marrone and Kyle Orton left, the job changed and it went from being "fun" to being a "heavy lift" which did not interest him at the age of 72.


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The final element to Marrone's departure apparently was his own inability to not let criticism bother him. It came to light that he was tired of the negativity emanating from the local media and fans about his job performance, as if that's something new in the NFL, or unique to Buffalo. He felt he was too frequently taken to task about his decision making, and apparently the criticism had begun to upset his wife and children, too. As I remember, that was one of the reasons Mike Mularkey gave when he quit the Bills after the 2005 season.

All I can say is good luck in New York, where it is rumored Marrone may end up as coach of the Jets. If the western New York media got under his skin, what's going to happen in Gotham?

Gregg Williams, Mularkey, Dick Jauron, Perry Fewell, Chan Gailey, and now Marrone; Buffalo's coaches since Wade Phillips was stupidly fired in 2000 by Ralph Wilson despite a 29-19 record and two playoff appearances in three years.
 
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ucrenegade

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It is all moot anyway quinn is getting interviewed today if he has a good one then I wouldn't mind him either like i said marrone is 1 and quinn is 1a for me.
 
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you can take what you will from that article about Marrone. one big thing i took from it is Marrone is a proponent of continuity and vision. he wouldn't take the job without getting his way -- that's pretty admirable if you ask me. and then he demanded the opportunity to see to it that his vision be accommodated by the front office, by extending him and his coaching staff and keeping a tight-knit staff. sounds like a borderline ego-maniac that manifests in extreme attention to detail. not such a bad thing.
 
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ucrenegade

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yeah sounds to me he just wants him and his coaching staff to be on the same page for awhile.
 
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you can take what you will from that article about Marrone. one big thing i took from it is Marrone is a proponent of continuity and vision. he wouldn't take the job without getting his way -- that's pretty admirable if you ask me. and then he demanded the opportunity to see to it that his vision be accommodated by the front office, by extending him and his coaching staff and keeping a tight-knit staff. sounds like a borderline ego-maniac that manifests in extreme attention to detail. not such a bad thing.

Or he had this wonderful loop hole in his contract that allows him to make $8,000,000 this year instead of $4,000,000 Nice pay day for a coach with a 15-17 record
 
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ucrenegade

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I do like the fact they are not jumping at the first hire they are going through all the interviews before deciding.
 
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ucrenegade

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That's for Woody and the consultants. Glat's just there to talk about the business/organizational side.

maybe he is learning glatt should not be in any football discussion.
 
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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 3m3 minutes ago

The #Jets are interviewing former #Bills coach Doug Marrone today, source says. Goes without saying, a lot of interest on both sides.
 

jets82

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I don't understand why Woody isn't hiring the GM first and then stepping back and allowing the GM to hire the HC. Hopefully Woody gets it right this time, he has screwed it up so much. This interview with Marrone for HC has me real nervous. How do we know if Woody hires Marrone now, it won't mess up him hiring the best GMs because they want to hire their own HC?
 
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I don't understand why Woody isn't hiring the GM first and then stepping back and allowing the GM to hire the HC. Hopefully Woody gets it right this time, he has screwed it up so much. This interview with Marrone for HC has me real nervous. How do we know if Woody hires Marrone now, it won't mess up him hiring the best GMs because they want to hire their own HC?

Because we are the Jets' and do everything ass backwards. LOL

As Jetgreen13 has said many times, the only way that Marrone works for me is if Casserly is already the unannounced GM
 
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Kristian Dyer ‏@KristianRDyer 12m12 minutes ago

Per source, #Jets have requested to interview Saints Director of Player Personnel Ryan Pace for open GM position.
 

Elias

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Why is Woody even in these interviews. He should just hire a General Manager and let that person conduct the interviews. Woody needs to stay out of the process.
 
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