Brant Boyes, who played in Cleveland when Bowles was an assistant there, is the new special teams coach. He has been the Colts' assistant specials coach for the past four years.
Jets hire Brant Boyer as special teams coach
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is this the guy bowles reportedly wanted to hire in the 1st place??
I believe (not certain, but I believe) you may be thinking of the specials coach in Atlanta, Keith Armstrong. Both when he was first hired and after this past season, the Jets asked for permission to talk to Armstrong, and both times the Falcons refused.
yeah, that's the guy i was referring to.. oh well.. next coach up..
Colts special teams unit ranked 20th in NFL in 2015
Every year, the Dallas Morning News' Rick Gosselin compiles his special teams rankings from that season, based on the results of 22 different categories. The ranking provides as accurate of a look as we have of just how a team's special teams unit did the previous year, so it's a very good resource.
The Colts have the best kicking duo in the NFL in Adam Vinatieri and Pat McAfee, but that doesn't necessarily translate into the league's best special teams unit - or close to it. In Gosselin's rankings, the Colts were 20th in the league this year with a combined 369 points (teams are given points for their placement in each category, with one point being the best and 32 points being the worst in each category). For comparison's sake, the Baltimore Ravens were ranked number one with a score of 231, while the San Diego Chargers were ranked last with a score of 490.5.
Last year, the Colts ranked seventh in the NFL in Gosselin's rankings with a score of 273.5, so they obviously saw a huge drop this year - with a 13-spot drop and a score 95.5 points higher. The 22 categories that he takes into account are as follows: kick returning, punt returning, kick coverage, punt coverage, starting point, opponent starting point, punting, net punting, punts inside the 20, opponent punting, opponent net punting, field goals, field goal percentage, opponent field goal percentage, extra point percentage, special teams points scored, special teams points allowed, blocked kicks, opponent blocked kicks, takeaways, giveaways, and penalties.
Adam Vinatieri was tremendous as usual in 2015, converting 25 of 27 field goals (92.6%) and ending the season with a streak of 25 made field goals in a row. Pat McAfee was also phenomenal, averaging 47.7 yards per punt and pinning 28 punts inside the 20 yard line without having a punt blocked and with just six touchbacks. McAfee also had a fantastic year as a kickoff specialist, so the problem with the special teams in 2015 wasn't with either of the kickers - it was with everyone else.
The Colts allowed three punt return touchdowns this year, which is tied for the most given up in a single season in franchise history. They allowed 10.7 yards per punt return and 19.5 yards per kick return. In addition to that, the Colts didn't score a single special teams touchdown, though they did get a nice boost out of Quan Bray late in the season in the return game. In short, the Colts' special teams unit wasn't the worst in the league this past season, but it also wasn't anywhere close to the best as the team saw a significant dropoff in their special teams play.
http://www.stampedeblue.com/2016/1/...0th-in-nfl-in-2015-adam-vinatieri-pat-mcafee#
Every year, the Dallas Morning News' Rick Gosselin compiles his special teams rankings from that season, based on the results of 22 different categories. The ranking provides as accurate of a look as we have of just how a team's special teams unit did the previous year, so it's a very good resource.
The Colts have the best kicking duo in the NFL in Adam Vinatieri and Pat McAfee, but that doesn't necessarily translate into the league's best special teams unit - or close to it. In Gosselin's rankings, the Colts were 20th in the league this year with a combined 369 points (teams are given points for their placement in each category, with one point being the best and 32 points being the worst in each category). For comparison's sake, the Baltimore Ravens were ranked number one with a score of 231, while the San Diego Chargers were ranked last with a score of 490.5.
Last year, the Colts ranked seventh in the NFL in Gosselin's rankings with a score of 273.5, so they obviously saw a huge drop this year - with a 13-spot drop and a score 95.5 points higher. The 22 categories that he takes into account are as follows: kick returning, punt returning, kick coverage, punt coverage, starting point, opponent starting point, punting, net punting, punts inside the 20, opponent punting, opponent net punting, field goals, field goal percentage, opponent field goal percentage, extra point percentage, special teams points scored, special teams points allowed, blocked kicks, opponent blocked kicks, takeaways, giveaways, and penalties.
Adam Vinatieri was tremendous as usual in 2015, converting 25 of 27 field goals (92.6%) and ending the season with a streak of 25 made field goals in a row. Pat McAfee was also phenomenal, averaging 47.7 yards per punt and pinning 28 punts inside the 20 yard line without having a punt blocked and with just six touchbacks. McAfee also had a fantastic year as a kickoff specialist, so the problem with the special teams in 2015 wasn't with either of the kickers - it was with everyone else.
The Colts allowed three punt return touchdowns this year, which is tied for the most given up in a single season in franchise history. They allowed 10.7 yards per punt return and 19.5 yards per kick return. In addition to that, the Colts didn't score a single special teams touchdown, though they did get a nice boost out of Quan Bray late in the season in the return game. In short, the Colts' special teams unit wasn't the worst in the league this past season, but it also wasn't anywhere close to the best as the team saw a significant dropoff in their special teams play.
http://www.stampedeblue.com/2016/1/...0th-in-nfl-in-2015-adam-vinatieri-pat-mcafee#
This article doesn't inspire much confidence but he was just the assistant with the Colts. Let's see if he can improve our Special Teams next year. Wouldnt take a lot.
I think we also need better special teams players, definitely better return guys and probably a new punter. While Quigley punted better last season he still comes up with clunkers at the worst time during a game. We sure do miss Westhoff the mad scientist.
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I remember this guy from when he played for Miami. Other then that don't know squat about him. One thing should help him, Devin Smith probably won't be able to play ST's until at least week 8. 
not to derail the thread but is smith really likely to miss half of next season?? please tell me you're goofin'..I remember this guy from when he played for Miami. Other then that don't know squat about him. One thing should help him, Devin Smith probably won't be able to play ST's until at least week 8.
& yes, all we seem to know about boyer is bowlse likes him better than april.. which again, tells us almost nothing..
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Of course I don't actually know, but I think it's likely he'll miss a fair part of he season.
He blew his knee up in week 14, Dec. 13 against the Titans. From what I've read after an ACL tear, and surgery, A player can't actually start to do anything with it for 6 months. That brings us till June before he can actually start rehabbing it. He certainly won't be ready to play in September. Each player is different, and each doctor has a different time line when a player is actually able to play at close to 100% (He'll actually never be where his prior 100% was) here's a few quotes from the Texas Sports Medicine and Orthopaedic group. Wish I could give you a link, interesting read.
How long is it usually before the injured athlete can return to his sport?
Dr. Souryal: Six months is the benchmark. Some physicians say nine; some say a year. (Well that cleared that up lol)
What's the prognosis for an athlete with an ACL tear?
Dr. Souryal: This used to be a devastating injury. When an ACL tears, it does not heal. Unlike most other ligaments, the ACL never has the opportunity to mend due to its position and role in the knee -- it's very much like a rubber band. That's why this is a forever kind of injury. It used to end athletic participation both on the professional and recreational level. Now with arthroscopic surgery and proper strengthening and rehabilitation techniques, the future is much brighter. National results show a 96 to 98 percent return to sport.
It kind of seems like it is a crap shoot when a player can actually return to football. An OL would be ready much sooner then a RB or a WR. An OL doesn't depend on speed, and shiftyness. Can put a knee brace on in 7-8 months, and be good to go.
Not so much for a guy like Smith who's whole game depends on speed, and being able to cut sharply. Don't know how much it will affect his speed, but it will.
This couldn't have happened at a worst time for Devin's Smith's career. He missed mini camp last year because his girl friend had a baby a week after camp ended, then broke his rib, and missed all of summer camp. he looked lost out there. It looks like the same scenario again. No OTA's no mini camp, and no summer camp.
Like last year I'm not looking for Smith to contribute much again next year . If I'm Macc I go into the off-season like Smith isn't on the team and find that fast ST'er, and WR the Jets badly need. If Smith returns early, and does a better job of learning the system then he did last year. GREAT, the Jets will have two of them.
I'm not counting on Devin Smith to contribute much next season.
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Actually you start rehab right after surgery using a CPM machine in the recovery room and then start real physical therapy in a day or so.
That six months is not the time you start rehab but the time you start full football activities
My guess is back for TC
That six months is not the time you start rehab but the time you start full football activities
My guess is back for TC
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What's the 9 months and the 1 yer Dr. Souryal is referring to? Seems like there is a lot of division even among Doctors when it comes to how long recovery takes.
From what I've seen in football, it is usually about 9 months before they return to the field after severe surgery. Most people are saying Jaylon Smith will have to do a red shirt year. He blew his knee out in December also. Jaylon Smith's was a severe injury, I honestly don't know how severe Devin Smith's injury is considered.
Strongly suspect he won't be playing in September at least
BTW LGM I'm not really arguing with you. Just out of sports curiosity, when ever a Jet, or a Ranger blows their knee out I always go to look when they might be back, What I keep on coming up with is any where from 6 to 12 months depending on who the doctor I'm reading is, the severity of the injury, and the position they play. I've just put it in the middle at 9 months, which brings us to September before they can start doing football stuff.
As somebody else pointed out in the Sudfeld thread, straight line running is one thing, making sharp football receiver type cuts is a whole different ball of wax.
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You are correct
It depends on the severity of the injury and the aggressive treatment and immediate rehab prescribed by the surgeon and therapists. For NFL athletes all the treatment is aggressive though
Multiple ligiments (ACL PCL MCL and Patella) take longer than a single tear.
Partial tears less time than complete tear
Arthro less time than major reconstruction although virtually all are Arthroscopic these days
There is no standard answer. Each case is individual. For example, my wife tore her ACL skiing. The first surgeon she saw accepted an XRay diagnosis of sprained MCL and wasted four weeks until her knee actually buckled. We found the Sports Medicine MD who had worked for Pro NHL and NBA teams who immediately MRI'd her knee and found the complete tear of the ACL.
Surgery was scheduled quickly to replace the ACL ligiment and she was on the CPM that day and in rehab the next day
After two weeks of outpatient PT, she was on her feet, walking normally and on her way to full recovery.
She met multiple other patients who had had repairs weeks before she did, had no CPM and less aggressive PT who were hobbling and limping around like they were still injured
So there are a lot of variables determining the length of recovery time
It depends on the severity of the injury and the aggressive treatment and immediate rehab prescribed by the surgeon and therapists. For NFL athletes all the treatment is aggressive though
Multiple ligiments (ACL PCL MCL and Patella) take longer than a single tear.
Partial tears less time than complete tear
Arthro less time than major reconstruction although virtually all are Arthroscopic these days
There is no standard answer. Each case is individual. For example, my wife tore her ACL skiing. The first surgeon she saw accepted an XRay diagnosis of sprained MCL and wasted four weeks until her knee actually buckled. We found the Sports Medicine MD who had worked for Pro NHL and NBA teams who immediately MRI'd her knee and found the complete tear of the ACL.
Surgery was scheduled quickly to replace the ACL ligiment and she was on the CPM that day and in rehab the next day
After two weeks of outpatient PT, she was on her feet, walking normally and on her way to full recovery.
She met multiple other patients who had had repairs weeks before she did, had no CPM and less aggressive PT who were hobbling and limping around like they were still injured
So there are a lot of variables determining the length of recovery time
I've had an ACL repair (patella tendon graft). Unless you're Adrian Peterson, it usually takes 6 months to start straight line running hard. Usually around 8 months you can start cutting. But you don't regain full proprieception ability for 12 months. At 12 months you're usually back to your old self where you feel like the knee is yours again.
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I've fortunately never had one but that is about the time line that for the most part I've repeatedly read
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