Jets Offense and Zach!

[gastineau]

Why no play action and have Zach pass down field beyond 5 yds? Jets needs to help him so Jets can trade him to the Raider or Patriots! Congrats to Team winning! Zach gets trashed for Offensive play calling that’s not his fault! Just think if Jets knew to sit him first year? Fans done after 6 games 3 rd of season and second year 13 games just 2 games over one season and all the crap piled on from team coaches fans! It will be a huge joke when he leaves and makes Jet fans eat crow. 6 gamesl lmfao no Good College QB will go to Jets knowing he has 6 games and fan, team mates and coaches crap on him! Lol.

 

[gastineau]

Again nice to see Jets win over Eagle! Know Zach had zero to do with it as I read from fans and Boomer crap QB! No int’s best pass of game was 2 point that had to be right in small area and zip so no int! I told you dumb Jets fans drafting him can’t start. He has zip like Dan Marino zipping ball in tight areas. Glad you haters see glimpses so after traded and Rogers plays til 50 getting to a playoff game which is Jets Super Bowl! Lol then start over drafting another bad QB because no top QB will come here after seeing what Jets team and fans do to QB after 6 games! No One with a Brain as top QB in College will come to Jets. Especially when Zach leave and goes to a good team.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Great posts as usual.

 

[jets82]

Zach is so hard to figure out. With these weapons he should be doing SO MUCH BETTER but baby steps I guess! In three more games, maybe he’ll be better than he’s been so far. Wishful thinking!

 

[MiJetFan]

Yeah, you just can't tell wtf this guy is talking about.

 

[KenO'B]

Are they Zach's mam or one of his hit list milfs?

 

[LRJets]

Well, we got thru the "tough" first six. 3-3 with Rodgers was what I hoped for.
Did it under worse conditions.
Would have been 4-2 with one honest ref (Chiefs game)

 

[gastineau]

I’m just mad and tired of Jets not able to Draft or able to train a high risk reward QB since Namath being Drafted in 1965. My first was passing on Marino in 83! Absolutely stupid not Drafting him and no doubt Jets would have won at least one SB! This wasn’t the end of passing on game changing QBs. I didn’t want Sanchez that did do well from great OLine , WRs and RBs. Darnold also bad pick, but hoped they could make him average QB, nope! The QB I wanted is on Bills. There’s so many lately. So to Zach ! Once Jets won a game to loss the only sure QB pick in Draft I started looking. I come across Zach’s playing and see he had arm and accuracy being able to more and make plays. Zach was the best pick for Jets! After getting Zach I knew he had to sit and learn in first year till Jets fixed O Line and start in second year. Instead Jets started him behind an an awful O Line. 6 games and out to next season disaster happened when Zach’s in over his head running around to Tshirts from team. All this destroyed his confidence in his game to now starting his second season of games. I’m not sureJets can get him right after destroying his assets. Jets ruined this kid ! Fans too being done with him after six games in year one. That surprised me after fans gave Darnold 3 full seasons of games but was done with Zach after 6 games. Yeah there’s a slim chance Jets can fix the issues Zach has regressed by the Team and Fans ,media after third of season. Zach is in second season of games and see glimpses of what Zach could’ve been if this stupid disaster how not to bring along a high risk reward talent. I think GM , Coaches all know they screwed this kid over and cause the team and fans to bash him. I was happy to hear GM admitted that Jets screwed up and shouldn’t have started Zach in year one. So now Jets are worried that if they let him go he might have a bad game and fans and media will start up again. Hence Trade Zach to , Raiders who has a coach that know what to do. I believe 49ers move up in that Draft to get Zach hoping Jets wouldn’t take him. Zach fits 49ers play and great O Line. But right now I’m not sure if Zach can get his play back. I hope so for Jets.

 

[KenO'B]

Come on fella, put some paragraphs in ffs

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I’m just mad and tired of Jets not able to Draft or able to train a high risk reward QB since Namath being Drafted in 1965. My first was passing on Marino in 83! Absolutely stupid not Drafting him and no doubt Jets would have won at least one SB! This wasn’t the end of passing on game changing QBs. I didn’t want Sanchez that did do well from great OLine , WRs and RBs. Darnold also bad pick, but hoped they could make him average QB, nope! The QB I wanted is on Bills. There’s so many lately. So to Zach ! Once Jets won a game to loss the only sure QB pick in Draft I started looking. I come across Zach’s playing and see he had arm and accuracy being able to more and make plays. Zach was the best pick for Jets! After getting Zach I knew he had to sit and learn in first year till Jets fixed O Line and start in second year. Instead Jets started him behind an an awful O Line. 6 games and out to next season disaster happened when Zach’s in over his head running around to Tshirts from team. All this destroyed his confidence in his game to now starting his second season of games. I’m not sureJets can get him right after destroying his assets. Jets ruined this kid ! Fans too being done with him after six games in year one. That surprised me after fans gave Darnold 3 full seasons of games but was done with Zach after 6 games. Yeah there’s a slim chance Jets can fix the issues Zach has regressed by the Team and Fans ,media after third of season. Zach is in second season of games and see glimpses of what Zach could’ve been if this stupid disaster how not to bring along a high risk reward talent. I think GM , Coaches all know they screwed this kid over and cause the team and fans to bash him. I was happy to hear GM admitted that Jets screwed up and shouldn’t have started Zach in year one. So now Jets are worried that if they let him go he might have a bad game and fans and media will start up again. Hence Trade Zach to , Raiders who has a coach that know what to do. I believe 49ers move up in that Draft to get Zach hoping Jets wouldn’t take him. Zach fits 49ers play and great O Line. But right now I’m not sure if Zach can get his play back. I hope so for Jets.

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[KenO'B]

Copy and paste

I hope not, some awful wording in that lot, I had to go and find some reading glasses to get through it.

for those that find it tldr

Jets can't develop QB's, he'd love to suck Zach off, he claims Allen was his QB of choice in Sam's draft, Marino, despite not winning a ring with the phins ,would have definitely won a SB for the Jets.

 

[Old#15]

Jets would have ruined Allen too. Daboll saved that kid, curious to see how long his success is without the short fat bald guy.

 

[hatnlvr]

Jets would have ruined Allen too. Daboll saved that kid, curious to see how long his success is without the short fat bald guy.

I agree with this. Allen was throwing balls in the dirt like crazy as a rookie and just didn't seem to get it at all. Daboll saved him and maybe Greg Knapp would have saved Zach, but it clear to me that Zach isn't going to save himself. I get it that everyone wants him to be the answer (and maybe after sitting and watching for a couple of seasons, he will be ready for that), but I just don't see that in him at this moment.

I saw more leadership from Sanchez (scheduling private training sessions, and flying out his receivers), than I've ever seen out of Zach. The organization derailed Sanchez too (here was a game manager, who in year 2 was winning us games with his arm and bringing us back in game), only to have them screw him over with the whole Geno debacle.

That being said, Zach has played some controlled games, and limited mistakes. Personally I don't think that is a reason to celebrate, but give credit where credit is due. What I'm still not seeing from here is the essentials to be a franchise QB (or even a good QB)

1. Can't read a defense
2. Can't anticipate a throw

Regardless of arm strength or accuracy, if you can't do those two essential things (you're just not a QB).

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I agree with this. Allen was throwing balls in the dirt like crazy as a rookie and just didn't seem to get it at all. Daboll saved him and maybe Greg Knapp would have saved Zach, but it clear to me that Zach isn't going to save himself. I get it that everyone wants him to be the answer (and maybe after sitting and watching for a couple of seasons, he will be ready for that), but I just don't see that in him at this moment.

I saw more leadership from Sanchez (scheduling private training sessions, and flying out his receivers), than I've ever seen out of Zach. The organization derailed Sanchez too (here was a game manager, who in year 2 was winning us games with his arm and bringing us back in game), only to have them screw him over with the whole Geno debacle.

That being said, Zach has played some controlled games, and limited mistakes. Personally I don't think that is a reason to celebrate, but give credit where credit is due. What I'm still not seeing from here is the essentials to be a franchise QB (or even a good QB)

1. Can't read a defense
2. Can't anticipate a throw

Regardless of arm strength or accuracy, if you can't do those two essential things (you're just not a QB).

This is the problem. He thinks he can rely on his arm strength to make throws. That works in college. Not in the NFL. If he could see the filed sooner he might be serviceable.

 

[hatnlvr]

This is the problem. He thinks he can rely on his arm strength to make throws. That works in college. Not in the NFL. If he could see the filed sooner he might be serviceable.

Gotta be able to anticipate a throw. Open in NFL is way different than open in college! 2 steps is open in the NFL, he is throwing to guys 5 yards open

 

[Retired AFA]

Zach sucked in college. He never played against a top 50 school. How the JETS brass could not see this is beyond me.

 

[jets82]

 

[Old#15]

ok stop, I'm getting excited again.

 

[hatnlvr]

Honestly this looks a lot like last seasons team before Breece went down. If he has to miss any extended time again, we will be in the same boat. One game at a time, the CS is doing their job and trying to put something out there that works (give them credit)

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Honestly this looks a lot like last seasons team before Breece went down. If he has to miss any extended time again, we will be in the same boat. One game at a time, the CS is doing their job and trying to put something out there that works (give them credit)

Not much margin of error for this team, but they are 3-3 and they could be 5-1. The offense is not good by any means nor do I think it will be, but it's making some plays. Maybe not scoring TD's, but less 3 and outs allows this defense to create turnovers which they have done a great job so far this season. I'm not the biggest Saleh fan, but this team didn't fold after losing Rodgers so I give him and his staff a ton of credit. Zach is not embarrassingly bad right now so that's a huge change from his previous 2 years. I complain about this team a lot and I promise I will continue to do so, but it's nice to not be ashamed of this team for once. @jets82 and @Old#15 It pains me to be this positive.