jets should trade sheldon richardson

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looking towards the draft,I think the jets should trade Richardson for picks.the jets have Williams to take his place.this draft is loaded with great picks in the first four rounds.in doing so the jets can fill many needs.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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Won't get anything close to his worth.

I tend to agree. With a possible suspension from the league on the horizon, and his history of pot and some very shady behavior, I've gotta think teams won't be willing to give up a lot for such a risky player. Richardson is running out of chances, and following this latest nonsense with the weed/gun/reckless driving with a minor nightmare, he could be in a Josh Gordon position before long.

Is anyone going to give up a first round draft pick for him? If they aren't, I'm not sure I'm dealing him.
 
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I frankly disagree. The Jets are NEVER going to get a deal worked out with Wilk. NEVER. It would make much more sense to trade him right now and get what we can after he's franchised. Sheldon, on the other hand, has made some mistakes. But I believe he will learn his lesson from this. He'll come much cheaper to resign as a result of his F8ck ups. We also have Williams that is still developing.
 

mykcuz

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Both Sheldon and mo, have issues hurting their trade value. For one mo will cost a team 1 first round pick and a contract around 16 mill per year, he's also coming off of a broken leg and his own team doesn't think he's worth the money. Not to mention, in a career year with good talent on the line and in the secondary, he didn't make our d all that scary.
It would take a desperate team to make that trade.

Richardson had the same dilemma, the Jets aren't going to let him walk for anything less than a 1st rounder, and a new team would be taking a risk on a stranger facing a1 year suspension of he gets high again.

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BlindsideD'Brick

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Wilkerson had a very good year, and certainly deserves to get paid well. He's a difference maker, without a doubt, and someone the Jets should make every effort to retain. Unfortunately, because he had such a good year, he's going to ask for the Moon. I'm not going to fault him for that. He's earned a big payday. The Jets have other priorities, too, though. If he's asking for JJ Watt money, it might be best to tag and trade if someone's willing to give up a first rounder. Then you re-sign Snacks and probably look at re-signing Richardson next year.

Latest rumor I've heard is that the Raiders are very interested in Wilkerson. If I'm Oakland, I'd give up a first round pick in a heartbeat for Mo. That defense is already getting pretty scary.
 

mykcuz

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Wilkerson had a very good year, and certainly deserves to get paid well. He's a difference maker, without a doubt, and someone the Jets should make every effort to retain. Unfortunately, because he had such a good year, he's going to ask for the Moon. I'm not going to fault him for that. He's earned a big payday. The Jets have other priorities, too, though. If he's asking for JJ Watt money, it might be best to tag and trade if someone's willing to give up a first rounder. Then you re-sign Snacks and probably look at re-signing Richardson next year.

Latest rumor I've heard is that the Raiders are very interested in Wilkerson. If I'm Oakland, I'd give up a first round pick in a heartbeat for Mo. That defense is already getting pretty scary.
I would argue that mo is really good, abs is important to the Jets success. However, he wants suh and watt money, and it's not worth being financially handicapped to keep him. If he would take 13/year for 7 years it would make sense, but when we have 16 in cap room and he wants 17,how do we build a winner?
Other teams know that and so we are at a disadvantage at the bargaining table. Maybe a team like Oakland is willing to pay him big money and lose a first rounder to get him. But I don't see a bidding war, which means compensation via trade is minimal.

It leaves us in a tough spot, we can't afford to pay him, abs we can't afford to trade him for nothing.

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Wilkerson had a very good year, and certainly deserves to get paid well. He's a difference maker, without a doubt, and someone the Jets should make every effort to retain. Unfortunately, because he had such a good year, he's going to ask for the Moon. I'm not going to fault him for that. He's earned a big payday. The Jets have other priorities, too, though. If he's asking for JJ Watt money, it might be best to tag and trade if someone's willing to give up a first rounder. Then you re-sign Snacks and probably look at re-signing Richardson next year.

Latest rumor I've heard is that the Raiders are very interested in Wilkerson. If I'm Oakland, I'd give up a first round pick in a heartbeat for Mo. That defense is already getting pretty scary.

As a Raider fan if it cost them a number 1, and a monster contract. I would pass on Muhammad Wilkerson, and go in another direction. There are other players in free agency , and the draft that will have the same effect.( get to keep our number 1 pick) . Defense line is probably the strongest position on their defense.

Here is the biggest reason - Pass rushing De isn't the biggest need. The Raiders first need to figure out Lt longterm( Donald Penn playing well still but at 33 could start to slip at anytime.( there first target in Fa will be trying to find a long term answer there- K Osemele might be the guy they target. if they re-sign Penn , K Osemele plays left guard, and eventually takes over at Left tackle for Penn.

2. They need a minimum a starting Cb( best one they can get in Fa and a starting safety( a lot quality options there in Fa and the draft)

Those three positions left tackle, Starting CB, and starting safety are the three most pressing issues for this team. Those positions need to be addressed first before you even think to look at defense end position.

Noah Spence makes it to 14, I'm all over him even with his risky character.( at 14 well worth the risk at that point). K Mack and Spence coming off the corner and I like my chances hitting the Qb.
 
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Good points

With that top dog talent all over the roster the Mighty Raidaz might even be able to eke past the Tiajuana Chargers into 3rd place behind Den and KC in 2016
 
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Good points

With that top dog talent all over the roster the Mighty Raidaz might even be able to eke past the Tiajuana Chargers into 3rd place behind Den and KC in 2016

The Raiders did that already moved past the Chargers, and have their sites on the big boys in the division. Let's see what each roster looks like come September after Fa , and the draft. Both the Bronco's and the Chiefs are going to lose some players that were a big part to their success.

Only after the offseason moves will we see how the Raiders matchup with the top dogs in their division.( Raiders might be stealing some of the Bronco's and Kc Chiefs talent.)
 

McJet

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The Raiders did that already moved past the Chargers, and have their sites on the big boys in the division. Let's see what each roster looks like come September after Fa , and the draft. Both the Bronco's and the Chiefs are going to lose some players that were a big part to their success.

Only after the offseason moves will we see how the Raiders matchup with the top dogs in their division.( Raiders might be stealing some of the Bronco's and Kc Chiefs talent.)

Raiders are up and coming. Carr, Cooper, Mack. I think the Raiders with another good offseason are headed for the playoffs.
 

mykcuz

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Raiders are up and coming. Carr, Cooper, Mack. I think the Raiders with another good offseason are headed for the playoffs.
Which means they might not see mo worth 16mil plus a 1st. They can grab a pass rusher in the draft.

Which makes this negotiation tough. He's worth a top 6 or 7 de contract, but if we don't sign him there's not a huge demand for him via trade. I think we're almost at a point where we can let him hit fa, and match any offer he gets. It would be less than the tag and then we can move past this talk for 4 or 5 years. That of course runs the risk of losing him and getting nothing for it. This is a tough one.


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BlindsideD'Brick

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Which means they might not see mo worth 16mil plus a 1st. They can grab a pass rusher in the draft.

Which makes this negotiation tough. He's worth a top 6 or 7 de contract, but if we don't sign him there's not a huge demand for him via trade. I think we're almost at a point where we can let him hit fa, and match any offer he gets. It would be less than the tag and then we can move past this talk for 4 or 5 years. That of course runs the risk of losing him and getting nothing for it. This is a tough one.


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If we lose Wilkerson to FA and get nothing for him, I will officially have my first issue with Maccagnan. There's just no way he can let that happen. Honestly, I don't think it would ever happen.
 

mykcuz

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If we lose Wilkerson to FA and get nothing for him, I will officially have my first issue with Maccagnan. There's just no way he can let that happen. Honestly, I don't think it would ever happen.
I agree, I don't believe they will take that path, but with our cap, Mos injury, Richardson suspension, it's starting to look like there's no good solution.
I tell you what, if macc can get through this he's executive of the year.

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mydogisajetsfan

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Let's remember a key point. We are cap restrained for this year only but next year is a different story. That is especially true IF Mac can find reliable replacements for D'Brick, Harris and even Brandon Marshall. Also factor in a more team-friendly contract for Mangold and there's lots of space. Gotta think MacBowles are very satisfied with Gilchrist and Skrine and could extend them an additional 2 or 3 years to spread out their cap hits. Of course another way to free cap space is to guarantee Revis for a few more years to spread out his cap impact. That's a bit risky though.

All that said, I think Mac can (and should) re-sign Mo. It's safe to say that we're all thrilled with what Mac has done for this team in one year. Now we'll see if he has a longer term plan for sustainable success.

Let's hope.
 

jetgreen13

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Which means they might not see mo worth 16mil plus a 1st. They can grab a pass rusher in the draft.

Which makes this negotiation tough. He's worth a top 6 or 7 de contract, but if we don't sign him there's not a huge demand for him via trade. I think we're almost at a point where we can let him hit fa, and match any offer he gets. It would be less than the tag and then we can move past this talk for 4 or 5 years. That of course runs the risk of losing him and getting nothing for it. This is a tough one.


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extremely tough.. i trust mac to make the right decision with wilkerson but LOLz i myself am certainly not sure what the "right decision" is at this point..

lots of moving parts on this DL but one thing i'm sure of at this point.. they look better as a unit on paper than the play as one on the field..
 
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