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Woody isn't involved in the ownership of J&J. He owns his own investment firm.
I'm sure he has gotten the core of his wealth from J&J but is not an owner, or involved in the management of it
Woody isn't involved in the ownership of J&J. He owns his own investment firm.
I'm sure he has gotten the core of his wealth from J&J but is not an owner, or involved in the management of it
Point taken. he worked there as the heir to the empire, and appears to have served as President of J&J at one point, but doesnt own it. Correct. Doesnt change the thought process of how a business man would handle giving two rookies the keys to the kingdom...Im guessing he doesn't hand the rookies "full control" as stated...but maybe...
those two rookies, as you call it, have a ton more experience evaluating football players than he does. if woody were a smart businessman, he would let those better qualified than he make the personnel decisions, be them "rookies" or not.
and it was his father, robert wood johnson III, who was president of J&J for 4 years. woody is robert wood johnson IV. his grandfather, robert wood johnson II was a co-founder of J&J
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Johnson
according to this article, he never worked at J&J
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/11/sports/football/11woody.ready.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&position=&
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Actually Woody hasn't worked for Johnson & Johnson since he was a kid. His father, Robert Wood Johnson III was president of J&J for 4 years. Had a falling out with the family.
As far as how a successful businessman runs his company, if he is smart, in the area's that aren't his expertise, like football, he would hire experts in that field. As he has done. He is a financial expert , so he might be more involved in that end of it., things like promoting the WSS.
I'm sure Macc runs things by him, and gets his approval, on spending $53,000,000, but if Woody is smart, and he is, he won't interfere with the evaluation, and selection of , the 6th pick in the draft.
Woody said recently, that Idzik was under no instructions, on how to spend, or not spend last years cap money. He even went so fa as to say he no knowledge of what the Jets stance on Revis was last off season. That's how he got in trouble, when he said he would love to have Revis on the team
Okay. Well, if as owner of the Jets he wants to have no knowledge, say, or input on the direction of the franchise, and we all believe that is how he runs the teams he owns, c'est la vie.
so do you think that if macc and bowles say we want to draft mariota, that woody would overrule them?
who do you think has final say in personnel decisions, woody or macc?
i'm sure they run big signings/investments by him. and i'm sure he sits at the table during the draft. but do you really think he has any veto power of player moves/picks and would impose his opinions over his football experts?
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Mariota doesn't know either since he never huddled in college. And this is the guy so many want to lead and be the franchise of the biggest media market? Doesn't seem like a good fit to me.
yes I do. I think if Winston falls to the jets, Mac and Bowles would ask Woody if it is okay to add a player with his baggage to the roster. i do believe that, which I guess would be the same as saying he has veto power.
Marcus Mariota - QB - Player
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora expects Oregon QB Marcus Mariota to be the No. 2 overall pick in the draft.
While Florida State QB Jameis Winston appears to be settling in as the consensus No. 1 pick, Mariota's perceived stock has been a bit harder to nail down. Per La Canfora, "some who know Titans coach Ken Whisenhunt well" believe he'll ultimately take Mariota at No. 2, but we're skeptical. The Titans seem genuinely enthused by Zach Mettenberger, and have needs everywhere. Perhaps Tennessee is trying to drum up trade interest.
BTW - La Canfora is as much of a football expert as the shoe on your foot...like Todd McShay or Mel Kiper.
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora expects Oregon QB Marcus Mariota to be the No. 2 overall pick in the draft.
While Florida State QB Jameis Winston appears to be settling in as the consensus No. 1 pick, Mariota's perceived stock has been a bit harder to nail down. Per La Canfora, "some who know Titans coach Ken Whisenhunt well" believe he'll ultimately take Mariota at No. 2, but we're skeptical. The Titans seem genuinely enthused by Zach Mettenberger, and have needs everywhere. Perhaps Tennessee is trying to drum up trade interest.
BTW - La Canfora is as much of a football expert as the shoe on your foot...like Todd McShay or Mel Kiper.
and what about mariota? do you think woody needs to be on this scouting trip for the jets to draft him?
I think he would be invited to New Jersey for an in-person meeting before the Jets drafted him. yes.
You dont agree on the Winston scenario?
BTW, Woody took Sanchez to dinner the week before the draft and signed off on him too. You know, that stupid rex story where he says after the dinner Sanchez pretended to jump on a motorcycle to drive off into the night.
I also said this rule applies to using top picks on QBs or paying franchise Qbs franchise QB money...not every single draft pick...and likely only some high priced free agent moves, like Revis...
Im not claiming he's a micro-manager...
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Strongly doubt that. If Woody was going, perhaps. NFL GM's seldom fly on 100+ passenger private planes for interviews
It's not just the GM flying they are sending an entourage.
I am sorry I do not see it 55... I mean I think your correct in that woody would have to approve it - he holds the purse strings but that is not tantamount to saying he would overrule his chosen experts recommendations. I just don't see it. IMHO he would probably say... "your the experts, if you recommend this, I will approve." I don't believe he would say no if that scenario unfolded.
agreed.. that said, QB's picked at the top of the draft either get GM's & HC's fired or extended..
owners don't fall on the sword over personal decisions, the hired help does.. that's both when they fully support a move or are strictly following the advice of their chosen experts..
at least that's how i see it..
More info on who's going to the workout tomorrow.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ource=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ource=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter
Jets Sending 6 To Work Out Mariota per Mehta
Jets Sending 6 To Work Out Mariota per Mehta
[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jets sending 6 key decision makers to Marcus Mariota private workout in Oregon tomorrow. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nyj?src=hash">#nyj</a> <a href="http://t.co/7L56i8IPtP">http://t.co/7L56i8IPtP</a> <a href="http://t.co/IKUoAGjE2w">pic.twitter.com/IKUoAGjE2w</a></p>— Manish Mehta (@MMehtaNYDN) <a href="https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/581572909174509568">March 27, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]
Jets Sending 6 To Work Out Mariota per Mehta
[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jets sending 6 key decision makers to Marcus Mariota private workout in Oregon tomorrow. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nyj?src=hash">#nyj</a> <a href="http://t.co/7L56i8IPtP">http://t.co/7L56i8IPtP</a> <a href="http://t.co/IKUoAGjE2w">pic.twitter.com/IKUoAGjE2w</a></p>— Manish Mehta (@MMehtaNYDN) <a href="https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/581572909174509568">March 27, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]
If the Jets come away beyond impressed with Mariota, in which i'am sure above all teams, the Jets will put him under a gauntlet of drills and test because the Jets will have to trade up to number two with Tennessee in order to select him. We would have to walk away 100% that he is the franchise of the organization when this practice session is over with today. Possible multiple 1st round picks along with players.
If there is any doubt of him becoming that QB to lead this team, then after tonight, this oganization will have moved on towards a different direction.
This by no means is a "Smoke screen" whatsoever. This time invested is what dilliegent teams do inorder to select their man to lead their teams under center. I feel we would have to make an Eli'esque trade inorder to acquire Mariota. If this organization is convinced Mariota is the man, then i trust them to do what ever it takes. They have the ammo to pul it off.
Everything is contingent on today's workout. This day will mark if this franchise will be headed into a new era.
If there is any doubt of him becoming that QB to lead this team, then after tonight, this oganization will have moved on towards a different direction.
This by no means is a "Smoke screen" whatsoever. This time invested is what dilliegent teams do inorder to select their man to lead their teams under center. I feel we would have to make an Eli'esque trade inorder to acquire Mariota. If this organization is convinced Mariota is the man, then i trust them to do what ever it takes. They have the ammo to pul it off.
Everything is contingent on today's workout. This day will mark if this franchise will be headed into a new era.