If all the balls started the same, you're right. But how the balls started is not in evidence...Yet.
Making the case in favor of the Pats
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If all the balls started the same, you're right. But how the balls started is not in evidence...Yet.
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flgreen
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We agree on that RI. Now let me ask you a logic question. Keep in mind that an investigation was already under way.
If you were to perform an experiment on the affect of atmospheric conditions on the psi in a football, wouldn't it be logical to start the experiment with equal air pressure in each ball?
Absolutely. But what the league was planning to do was not really an experiment. They were planning to test the pressures in all balls at halftime, which they did. What we don't know is whether officials routinely honored requests to set inflation at levels within the rules. They would not suddenly deny the requests at that game. But there really is no need to wonder or worry about this. The officials will be asked, Then we will know.
And oh, another factor is whether there were differences in ball prep procedures used by each team that might have affected the results. The Pats are claiming their ball prep procedure raises the pressure 1 psi. That claim has to be independently tested, whether we want to call that testing science or not. The Pats have made it part of the game.
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ucrenegade
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Were the balls on both sidelines near a heat source or were they left in the cold? Another question burning in my head because a heat source would def slow down the deflation process. And if the pats said they go up in psi that I have a hard time believing if anything they went up because of the rain.
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flgreen
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Un- huh
Maybe if this is how Brady preps his balls
Maybe if this is how Brady preps his balls
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Or perhaps this is the Pats equipment manager
Right. The heat source question is a big issue too. Let's hope that video exists showing where the balls are and what the proximity to heaters were for each set. If the Colts' balls were near heaters but the Pats' were far away, that very well could explain the differing deflations. And, the proximity to heaters might be something each team did intentionally. Brady likes soft balls, so the Pats' bag is placed far from heat sources. Luck likes high inflation, so the Colts put their bag near the heat.
In the posted video, it was stated that the rain could have caused the leather to expand, reducing the pressure. Not sure why water would make leather expand, but since their experiment found many of the balls deflated nearly 2 psi, they may be right. The balls would have had to start at 90.5 degrees to drop 2 psi due to the temperature dropping to 50 deg. But they started them off at 75 deg. Looks like some other factor was at work, and the water might be it.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...524.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
The Super Bowl means special footballs for both the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks, and that means a repeat of deflate-gate is unlikely to occur.
Unlike the regular season and playoffs when teams provide their own balls for their offense during the game, the NFL provides all of the practice and game balls throughout Super Bowl week for both teams. There is a longstanding league policy in which an equipment manager from a team not involved – in this Super Bowl it is Tony Medlin of the Chicago Bears – is in charge of the game balls. The attendants for this game are picked well before either the Patriots or the Seahawks got to this point.
The Patriots have been answering questions all week about how 11 of their 12 game balls during the AFC championship game were under-inflated well below the league's rules for air pressure. Teams are in control of the game balls in the regular season and playoffs until the officials inspect then two hours and 15 minutes before kickoff.
Throughout the week of Super Bowl training in Arizona, the league provides each team with balls for practice. The balls are then returned to the NFL following Friday's practice and will remain in possession of the NFL up until Sunday night's kickoff, meaning that there can be no tampering (such as, say, deflation). With no Saturday practice for either team, the balls are then secured until gametime.
All the balls are authenticated and will be tested by gameday officials prior to the game. The balls are authenticated so that afterward they can be auctioned off to raise money for charity.
So if the footballs become deflated during the Super Bowl, you can't blame the Patriots.
The Super Bowl means special footballs for both the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks, and that means a repeat of deflate-gate is unlikely to occur.
Unlike the regular season and playoffs when teams provide their own balls for their offense during the game, the NFL provides all of the practice and game balls throughout Super Bowl week for both teams. There is a longstanding league policy in which an equipment manager from a team not involved – in this Super Bowl it is Tony Medlin of the Chicago Bears – is in charge of the game balls. The attendants for this game are picked well before either the Patriots or the Seahawks got to this point.
The Patriots have been answering questions all week about how 11 of their 12 game balls during the AFC championship game were under-inflated well below the league's rules for air pressure. Teams are in control of the game balls in the regular season and playoffs until the officials inspect then two hours and 15 minutes before kickoff.
Throughout the week of Super Bowl training in Arizona, the league provides each team with balls for practice. The balls are then returned to the NFL following Friday's practice and will remain in possession of the NFL up until Sunday night's kickoff, meaning that there can be no tampering (such as, say, deflation). With no Saturday practice for either team, the balls are then secured until gametime.
All the balls are authenticated and will be tested by gameday officials prior to the game. The balls are authenticated so that afterward they can be auctioned off to raise money for charity.
So if the footballs become deflated during the Super Bowl, you can't blame the Patriots.
Great post. Now, why doesn't the league do something along these lines for all games?
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JayGlazer
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Breaking news: sources tell @FOXSports the NFL has zeroed in on a locker room attendant w Patriots who allegedly took balls from officials locker room to another area on way to field. Sources say they have interviewed him and additionally have video. Still gauging if any wrong doing occurred with him but he is strong person of interest
@JayGlazer
Breaking news: sources tell @FOXSports the NFL has zeroed in on a locker room attendant w Patriots who allegedly took balls from officials locker room to another area on way to field. Sources say they have interviewed him and additionally have video. Still gauging if any wrong doing occurred with him but he is strong person of interest
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flgreen
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Aha! This sounds like the fall guy some have speculated would take the fall. The question is whether, being a Pats' employee, the team would get the same blame, and suffer the same consequences, as if somebody higher up the food chain had been implicated.
Breaking news on locker room attendent going on now.
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flgreen
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Yeah knew this was coming.
Taz Just happened to get a picture of the locker room attendant being convinced to take the fall for Tom.
Well, there is a possibility he breaks under interrogation. You know, telling him that if he sings he'll get a lot easier time of it. He could crack.
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ucrenegade
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Breaking news here is a pic of the rogue lockerroom attendant that messed with the balls
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flgreen
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Gary Myers 25m .
NFL is missing real mystery. Forget deflated footballs. Did Pats spike Indy's bucket of Gatorade turning Luck into Geno Smith in title game?
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NFL is missing real mystery. Forget deflated footballs. Did Pats spike Indy's bucket of Gatorade turning Luck into Geno Smith in title game?
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LMAO at poor balding Tammi
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sg3
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The good part of this is that, just as predicted by Coach Sir Isaac Newtonchick at his presser, his noble, objective and unbiased scientific tests have proved things and there will be no further discussion of or questions about either his or Tom Brady's balls from now on.
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ucrenegade
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brady told the guy he could touch his balls the attendant thought he meant the footballs.