Mangold being released

BlindsideD'Brick

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He tweeted out that his time as a Jet is over.

That sucks. I loved Mangold. He can still play. He's going to sign somewhere else. Rappaport says he'll get lots of interest.

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Old#15

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If anything, it is a sign that management is in full rebuild mode. If there was any thought as to keeping up a competitive facade, that is officially over. Get what you can for Richardson and Marshall, release Gilchrist, Harris and Revis and load the roster with young hungry players. I understand why they didn't do this two years ago, but it is clear that these vets can't carry the load of the franchise on their backs, particularly without a franchise QB. So time to start fresh.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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If/when he signs somewhere else, it's going to be weird seeing #74 in another jersey.

Mawae and Mangold have held that position since 1998. Two great Centers.
 

BlindsideD'Brick

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If anything, it is a sign that management is in full rebuild mode. If there was any thought as to keeping up a competitive facade, that is officially over. Get what you can for Richardson and Marshall, release Gilchrist, Harris and Revis and load the roster with young hungry players. I understand why they didn't do this two years ago, but it is clear that these vets can't carry the load of the franchise on their backs, particularly without a franchise QB. So time to start fresh.

Agree entirely. Hope it happens.
 

lounap23

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If anything, it is a sign that management is in full rebuild mode. If there was any thought as to keeping up a competitive facade, that is officially over. Get what you can for Richardson and Marshall, release Gilchrist, Harris and Revis and load the roster with young hungry players. I understand why they didn't do this two years ago, but it is clear that these vets can't carry the load of the franchise on their backs, particularly without a franchise QB. So time to start fresh.

Yep.. All this has to happen.
 

butterscotch

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If anything, it is a sign that management is in full rebuild mode. If there was any thought as to keeping up a competitive facade, that is officially over. Get what you can for Richardson and Marshall, release Gilchrist, Harris and Revis and load the roster with young hungry players. I understand why they didn't do this two years ago, but it is clear that these vets can't carry the load of the franchise on their backs, particularly without a franchise QB. So time to start fresh.

I agree but they should have done it two years ago. old with old in with the new

Now that being said come on AZ pick up nick
 

usapaw

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Great player but we are in need of youth and it is going to take time. Good luck Nick.
 

mykcuz

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Current cap room is 13.5 million, need to cut Revis.

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jetgreen13

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If anything, it is a sign that management is in full rebuild mode. If there was any thought as to keeping up a competitive facade, that is officially over. Get what you can for Richardson and Marshall, release Gilchrist, Harris and Revis and load the roster with young hungry players. I understand why they didn't do this two years ago, but it is clear that these vets can't carry the load of the franchise on their backs, particularly without a franchise QB. So time to start fresh.
agreed.. hopefully this also means one of the kids will be the starting QB..

maybe a kid that's not even on the team yet.....
 

mykcuz

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agreed.. hopefully this also means one of the kids will be the starting QB..

maybe a kid that's not even on the team yet.....
Just remember,is not a good idea to start a kid just because he's a kid, we need to make sure he's developed enough to not kill himself or a receiver.

Think of it like getting your racing license before hitting Daytona.

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jetgreen13

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Just remember,is not a good idea to start a kid just because he's a kid, we need to make sure he's developed enough to not kill himself or a receiver.

Think of it like getting your racing license before hitting Daytona.

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i agree.. good point..

but it if petty, hackenberg or a '17 draft pick is ready, i don't want to hear bowles talking about the veteran JAG QB (that will inevitably be brought in) gives us the best chance to win bullshit..
 

mykcuz

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i agree.. good point..

but it if petty, hackenberg or a '17 draft pick is ready, i don't want to hear bowles talking about the veteran JAG QB (that will inevitably be brought in) gives us the best chance to win bullshit..
Agree, but a coach can't bench guys everytime the wind blows in a different direction. The players need to see the coaching staff is fair, yet knows when to pull the plug. Because player retention and attitude can be a downfall if guys think that having a slump means the team gives up on them. It's a tough balance.

Did he stick with Fitz too long? Yes, but Woody and Mac were in on that conversation. And as we saw,geno sucked, and got hurt. Petty stunk,and got hurt. I don't think they had confidence that anyone was ready to replace Fitz.

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jetgreen13

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Agree, but a coach can't bench guys everytime the wind blows in a different direction. The players need to see the coaching staff is fair, yet knows when to pull the plug. Because player retention and attitude can be a downfall if guys think that having a slump means the team gives up on them. It's a tough balance.

Did he stick with Fitz too long? Yes, but Woody and Mac were in on that conversation. And as we saw,geno sucked, and got hurt. Petty stunk,and got hurt. I don't think they had confidence that anyone was ready to replace Fitz.

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if the veteran JAG that will be brought in is preforming dramatically better than the kids, i agree you should start him..

but even if we find are selves in that situation, not giving at least hackenberg some starts in what's looking to be a full blown rebuild season would be inexcusable.. in my book anyway..

if a 2nd round QB under these circumstances still can't get some snaps in year two, perhaps the 2nd round isn't where you should have taken him..
 

mykcuz

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if the veteran JAG that will be brought in is preforming dramatically better than the kids, i agree you should start him..

but even if we find are selves in that situation, not giving at least hackenberg some starts in what's looking to be a full blown rebuild season would be inexcusable.. in my book anyway..

if a 2nd round QB under these circumstances still can't get some snaps in year two, perhaps the 2nd round isn't where you should have taken him..
Hack was a gamble for sure. Rumors are that the cs likes his progress,contrary to last year's Manish reports. They might just sign someone like Hoyer as a safety net, and let the kids duke it out.

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soj

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Agree, I'd like to see the kids dude it out and have hoyer as a vet B-up.
 
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