Meet OG Brent Qvale - Jets

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Could be our starting RG:

Brent Qvale - G - Jets
Second-year G/T Brent Qvale has been getting reps with the Jets' first-team offense throughout the offseason program.

A 2014 UDFA out of Nebraska, Qvale spent his rookie season on the Jets' practice squad. Qvale stands 6-foot-6, 318. With James Carpenter locked in at left guard, the Jets have an open competition on the right side between Qvale, Willie Colon, Brian Winters, Dakota Dozier, and Oday Aboushi.


Brent Qvale
School: Nebraska
Position: T
Positive: Started four games at left tackle as a senior. Large college left tackle best in a small area. Bends his knees, sets with a wide base, and seals defenders from the action. Moves relatively well, shows quickness and flashes athleticism.

Negative: Heavy footed in pass protection and struggles getting off the edge. Average run blocker and does not get much movement.

Analysis: Qvale was graded as a potential late-round pick entering the season but struggled through a disappointing senior campaign. He possesses the size and skill to line up at right tackle or guard in the NFL but must quickly get his game back on track.
 

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We have enough contenders that whoever wins that guard spot will probably be pretty good, or will at least be pushed all season by the backups. Good situation to have.
 

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I'm not sure how anyone can consider this a good situation. Also don't understand why Dozier has not been mentioned as being given a chance to run with the 1's while Qvale is. And Harrison?
 
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I'm not sure how anyone can consider this a good situation. Also don't understand why Dozier has not been mentioned as being given a chance to run with the 1's while Qvale is. And Harrison?
Maybe, possibly Qvale is playing better
 

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I'm not sure how anyone can consider this a good situation. Also don't understand why Dozier has not been mentioned as being given a chance to run with the 1's while Qvale is. And Harrison?

They don't feel he will make the team at OG and moved him to center.
 

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Sad part is cutting Giacommini would result in a $750k salary cap savings and $4,375,000 in dead money. This could be Idziks worst move and that's saying a lot.

It was a bad signing. Worst of all, it was a bad signing that was totally out of character for Idzik.

He goes cheap on CB, leaves the hole, but goes above market value for a RT just because the guy played for the team Idzik had just been with?

Idzik made a lot of bad decisions. This one may be the worst, and it may be the most un-Idzik, as well.
 

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It was a bad signing. Worst of all, it was a bad signing that was totally out of character for Idzik.

He goes cheap on CB, leaves the hole, but goes above market value for a RT just because the guy played for the team Idzik had just been with?

Idzik made a lot of bad decisions. This one may be the worst, and it may be the most un-Idzik, as well.

I would have signed Howard for $1.5 mill a year more...just me...but Im always a homegrown talent guy. I find it weird to be in the minority on that topic all the sudden.
 

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I would have signed Howard for $1.5 mill a year more...just me...but Im always a homegrown talent guy. I find it weird to be in the minority on that topic all the sudden.

I'm not sure if you are in the minority on that subject. The ideal is to build as much through the draft as possible.

As for Giacomini, Howard was both home-grown and younger. The Raiders paid him pretty good money, all in all, but I would rather have him back than Breno.
 

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I'm not sure if you are in the minority on that subject. The ideal is to build as much through the draft as possible.

As for Giacomini, Howard was both home-grown and younger. The Raiders paid him pretty good money, all in all, but I would rather have him back than Breno.

Well, I can tell you the excitement is higher for the free agent additions than the concern is high for losing the homegrown talent that looks to be on the way out.

If you're telling me not signing Buster Skrine and Cromartie allows us to resign Mo and Harrison, sign me up for that. From the start of free agency I said I was excited for the signings...only if it didnt prevent us from resigning Mo. It is now starting to appear it has...
 

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Well, I can tell you the excitement is higher for the free agent additions than the concern is high for losing the homegrown talent that looks to be on the way out.

If you're telling me not signing Buster Skrine and Cromartie allows us to resign Mo and Harrison, sign me up for that. From the start of free agency I said I was excited for the signings...only if it didnt prevent us from resigning Mo. It is now starting to appear it has...


skrine and cromartie are both effectively on 1-year deals. not sure how that impacts whether to offer long-term contracts to mo and snacks
 

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skrine and cromartie are both effectively on 1-year deals. not sure how that impacts whether to offer long-term contracts to mo and snacks

According to OverTheCap, cutting Skrine next year would result in $10.250,000 in dead money and a cap savings of ($2,500,000), that is to say, there is no savings at all. In other words, he's on the team next season.

In 2017, cutting Skrine would result in $2,500,000 in dead money and a cap savings of $4,750,000.
 

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According to OverTheCap, cutting Skrine next year would result in $10.250,000 in dead money and a cap savings of ($2,500,000), that is to say, there is no savings at all. In other words, he's on the team next season.

In 2017, cutting Skrine would result in $2,500,000 in dead money and a cap savings of $4,750,000.


you're right. i thought skrine's deal was effectively a 1-year deal. looks like the guaranteed his 2016 salary as well. so it's basically a 2-year deal.

in any event, the point holds that short-term deals for cro and skrine shouldn't really have an impact on snacks and mo getting long-term extensions.
 

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According to OverTheCap, cutting Skrine next year would result in $10.250,000 in dead money and a cap savings of ($2,500,000), that is to say, there is no savings at all. In other words, he's on the team next season.

In 2017, cutting Skrine would result in $2,500,000 in dead money and a cap savings of $4,750,000.

Ahhh, so we shouldnt have signed all the free agents and focus on our own talent...if we wanted them

We need to remember Mac/Bowles didnt pick Wilkerson, Snacks, or Richardson...so them walking out the door is Mike T and Idziks players walking out the door.

the free agents are their players though.
 

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I love what the new regime has done, but Skrine AND Cromartie was overkill. After we signed Revis, we should have picked one, Skrine or Crow, and that will have sufficed, because we already had some talent in house with guys like McDougle and Milliner coming back from injuries, and Marcus Williams and Walls providing good depth. Like Super, at the time I said I wouldn't sign Crow if it made it more difficult to re-sign Wilkerson. I said (in this forum) I would have stopped at Revis and Skrine, but it sounded like we were still in a good position to pay Wilkerson too, so I dropped my opposition.
 

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I love what the new regime has done, but Skrine AND Cromartie was overkill. After we signed Revis, we should have picked one, Skrine or Crow, and that will have sufficed, because we already had some talent in house with guys like McDougle and Milliner coming back from injuries, and Marcus Williams and Walls providing good depth. Like Super, at the time I said I wouldn't sign Crow if it made it more difficult to re-sign Wilkerson. I said I would have stopped at Revis and Skrine, but it sounded like we were still in a good position to pay Wilkerson too, so I dropped my opposition.

Need to remember it didn't work that way. Revis was released mid free agency...Jets signed Skrine and Cro before revis was even a non-Patriot. His day was something that march 13th for his 2015 salary to be locked in. Free agency started March 1, so jets added their CBs...then revis was cut. They didnt get to pick one or the other and there was no way of knowing if Revis wanted to be here or the Pats would pay him.

I do think we over paid for Cro, but it was a buyers market since everyone had cap room this year.
 

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By Darryl Slater | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

Which Jets offensive linemen surprised during OTAs and minicamp?


Now that the Jets have wrapped up their spring workouts (organized team activities and minicamp), and they're off for about six weeks until training camp, we can begin digesting what the team learned during the spring.

It's difficult (and somewhat foolish) to draw any sweeping conclusions off these no-pads spring workouts, but they are an opportunity for under-the-radar guys to impress.

And veteran right guard Willie Colon noticed a couple fellow offensive linemen who looked impressive this spring: reserves Dakota Dozier and Brent Qvale.

We'll get to Colon's specific thoughts on each player's skills in a bit. But the broader issue he raised while talking about Dozier and Qvale is just as interesting as his specific comments, if not more so.

Dozier was the Jets' fourth-round draft pick last year. He didn't play at all. Neither did Qvale, an undrafted free agent rookie who spent all year on the practice squad. They both basically redshirted, to use a collegiate term. They got a season to watch and learn.

"For me, it's good that they both started off kind of quiet [with not playing last year] and now you see them starting to blossom," Colon said recently at the NFL's broadcast boot camp. "That's how you make a lineman. You give him a chance to earn his stripes. You give him a chance to mature. You don't crush his confidence. You let him find his way, and these guys are finding their way."

This is an ideal path for an offensive lineman to develop, particularly a lineman drafted in the middle rounds. The Jets didn't have that luxury with rookie Brian Winters in 2013, after taking him in the third round.

He was thrust into the starting left guard role after Vladimir Ducasse failed. And Winters sputtered throughout the season. In retrospect, playing right away wasn't a good thing for Winters — just as it isn't for most young NFL offensive linemen.

The Jets drafted guard Jarvis Harrison in the fifth round this year, but they have enough guys in front of him that he won't have to play at all in 2015, unless a few guards get injured. The way Colon sees it, this could benefit Harrison, just as it benefited Dozier and Qvale.

"I was groomed," said Colon, a fourth-round pick by the Steelers in 2006 who didn't start until the final two games of his rookie year. "I didn't come out of the gate blazing. My first preseason start, I had six [mental errors]. It took [Steelers then-director of football operations] Kevin Colbert to slap me on the back, and he goes, 'Don't do that again.' It took the next game for me to get better, into the next game, until it's like, 'Here goes Willie Colon at tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he's a ballplayer.'

"I think when you break a young guy's confidence, you don't allow him to grow. Are there are some guys that have it [right away]? Sure. But you've got to invest in guys who have a high learning curve, who battle hard, who generally just come to work like professionals."

Colon hesitated to say that playing Winters right away damaged his progress.

"I think the thing with Brian, his upside is so high," Colon said. "He looked so great [in practice] and he was put out there amongst the wolves, and whether he was ready or not, you could never tell that until you put him out there."

This brings us back to Dozier and Qvale. Dozier, a college tackle who converted to guard last year, got some backup center reps this spring. Dozier could also be in the mix for the right guard competition, along with Colon, Winters and Oday Aboushi. Qvale, previously a tackle, got some starting right guard reps this spring, though it happened on an OTA day when Colon was absent because of the boot camp.

Don't read too much into this. The coaches like to get young guys some extra snaps in the spring. The training camp reps are what matter most. But Colon loved what he saw from Dozier and Qvale this spring.

"Honestly, I had this discussion with one of our coaches: I think that the most underrated two guys we have in our room are Brent Qvale and Dakota," Colon said. "Dakota coming into the spring, he was asked to step into the [backup] center role. He's answered the bell — from learning a new system, to learning a new position, to being able to be a swing guy [who can play guard and center].

"I think Qvale, he's as tough as it comes. I told him, 'Listen, don't stop kicking butt, no matter who you're going against.' He plays well. He's the most underrated guy we've got right now. If I could tip my hat off, I'd tip it off to those two guys.

"You never want to make the same mistake twice. If they make a mistake, you don't see it the next time they're on the field. So that lets you know their learning curve is high. It lets you know they're responsive to how they're being coached. Overall, they play hard. They're not out there getting thrown to the floor. Those guys get out there and play."


Dozier is now showing the ability to play guard and center, after being a college tackle. Qvale is apparently making the transition from college tackle to NFL guard in Year 2. For middle-round linemen — and, of course, undrafted guys like Qvale — such versatility is something "you want to see out of young guys," Colon said.

"The more you can do," Colon continued, "the more you have a chance to stay in the league."
 

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If Dozier is going to be the back up center and help out at Guard, Dalton Freeman needs to update his resume
 
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