Well said and I agree 100%.
Well said and I agree 100%.
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I'm certainly willing to trust the evaluation of Bowles, Macc and Gailey
I think they have alteady done much of that evaluation as evidenced by the description of our third year veteran QB as "a good COLLEGE quarterback"
We can do better in FA and in the draft and my guess is the professionals we've hired this time aren't planning to stake NFL careers on the bust from Morgantown
I think they have alteady done much of that evaluation as evidenced by the description of our third year veteran QB as "a good COLLEGE quarterback"
We can do better in FA and in the draft and my guess is the professionals we've hired this time aren't planning to stake NFL careers on the bust from Morgantown
Honestly..how the hell can you say Petty, Grayson or Mannion are better than Smith at the NFL level RIGHT NOW.....a pretty naïve statement...the NFL has chewed up and spit out a lot more heralded qb's than those 2 coming in...I am all for bringing in a vet and another QB draft pick to compete but to say those guys 2 of which are system guys, are better ...is assinine BTW Simms should not be on tea,m he has shown nothing...
I agree. Geno has been bad but we can't say he's worse than people graded to get drafted in the third round of this year's draft. That's our hatred talking and not using facts.
Many people don't want to admit it but Geno improved last year in comparison to his rookie season. Although I do not want do see it, he's worth a look as a starter for next season. Not saying we put all our hopes in him as our starter but just give him every opportunity to earn the starting nod.
Like renegade said somewhere, I think Gailey can help him improve. Good thing with our QB situation this year is that we aren't in our win now mode/save Rex's job so the pressure will not be there from the coaching staff. The pressure will be there from us, the fans though.
I hate our fan base sometimes. We pounce on our young players and boo them out the building. For a 22 year old to be told he sucks by 85,000 people can be a big mind f*ck.
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First. I never mentioned Mannion. He may be as bad or worse than Smith although that is a high hurdle.
Its naive IMO to think a guy who has graded out at the bottom.of the league for two seasons is going to.be anything different in his third.
Bowles,.Macc and Gailey are too savvy to bet their NFL future on.a guy who can't remember the playbook or meeting times, can't do progressions, can't step up in the pocket and can't throw an accurate pass.
Would you? Would anybody?
I don't think so
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you guys are underestimating chan way to much............go back and look at his body of work he turned fitz,thigpen,fiedler,and kordell freaking stewart into playoff QB's well except fitz who never had a defense.
if anyone can get smith to be decent it will be gailey or chip kelly. We don't have chip so that leaves gailey.
I am not a smith fan either as most of you already know but like I said i am a gailey fan and don't underestimate him in working with Mediocre to bad QB's.
if anyone can get smith to be decent it will be gailey or chip kelly. We don't have chip so that leaves gailey.
I am not a smith fan either as most of you already know but like I said i am a gailey fan and don't underestimate him in working with Mediocre to bad QB's.
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Agree 100%
Just think.we should give him something decent to.work with aa opposed to wasting another season on.a never will be
smith will get his chance to keep his job.. the good news is if he does, favoritism will have nothing to do with it..
Sorry you didnt mention Mannion..but for as bad as Geno as shown..and at times he has been horrendous......I think the main key to his whole problem is turnovers...I can take the ill advised sack in FG territory at the least..but I cant take the amount of inexcusable turnovers...especially in our own territory....BUT I think he can make all the throws..and when he has a good balance of rolling to run and rolling to throw he gets in a pretty good rythym...I think a good portion of his stuff is correctable where he can be an avg to potentially little above avg guy.....and give the kids coming in the same learning curve..I really dont know maybe we can get lucky and draft the next Brady....but thats all luck....in the mean time..you have to critique the guy on an honest level..not with a blanket statement "he sucks" or is NEVER going to be anything.
...everyone forgets..although he was backing up Brett Favre....Aaron Rodgers did NOT PLAY FOR 3 years....and I am not saying he will be Aaron Rodgers..just there is a learning curve and I firmly believe....that sitting for a year or two makes a Qb for the most part....much much ready for the game.. Geno did not have that opportunity to sit and learn...which he should have..good or bad behind Sanchez..its true what people were saying...Rex, although I basically loved him, is/was the QB grim reaper...
NFL QB is the hardest position..especially mentally, in the entire sports world....
The good news is that that is exactly who will make the choice. It doesn't matter what any of us fans think or want. Thank heavens, since I don't agree with so much that most fans seem to be saying. Or at least the most vocal ones.
Another reason why Manish is considered a joke.
Joe Caporoso @TurnOnTheJets · · 39m 39 minutes ago hahaha RT @Cango1797: @TurnOnTheJets this was literally 2 tweets next to each other on his timeline #jets
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I was never sure about Tanny, WRECKS or Idzik
But I am pretty certain that M and B know that Womanish is a retarded jackass and don't plan on paying any attention to her.
But I am pretty certain that M and B know that Womanish is a retarded jackass and don't plan on paying any attention to her.
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He would say this. Manish is an Eagles fan who wants Mariota on his team.
There are more issues with Geno Smith than just a simple "Philiosophy" change on the offensive system he will be playing in.
*He turns the ball over like no ones buisness. I believe he led the league in combined turn overs (in/fumbles) these past two seasons.
*He plays erratic and we just don't know what we're getting week to week.
*He misses easy throws that make me wonder if there is something mentally wrong with him.
*He believes he's more than he actually is (pro bowl flashes when your team is 2-12?)
*He misses a team meeting & the coach makes up an excuse that he went to the movies and wasn't disciplined for it
*He flips his middle finger at his own fans at Met Life..
*He chokes under pressure
*He thrives when there is no pressure (last game of the season past two years)
*The guy takes party pics with Jay Z after loss upon loss which makes me feel that he's an "ALL ME" type of individual.
Again, many feel he's on the team, might as well have him compete for the job. But if he can't become the clear cut starter and beat out the competition, he IMHO, must be cut and give that position to a player worthy of the roster spot.
Todd Bowles, through the tea leaves has preached that turning the ball over is not acceptable here with the Jets at the QB position any longer. There is no more favoritism any more in which makes me feel that much better of the situation.
I hope that the Jets look at every option to upgrade who's under the helm. Whether it be Foles, Bradford or any of the rookies. Whom ever it is, it must be some one that Macagnan, Bowles & the franchise can be 100% comfortable with to get them to the next level.
Giving Geno Smith another opportunity just because he's financially well placed (cheap) on the team is like giving David Klingler countless opportunities thinking he'll turn it around.
(Hell atleast Cincy had reason to give Klingler so many opportunies, he was a 1st rounder. Unlike Smith, whom was a 2nd rounder.)
*He turns the ball over like no ones buisness. I believe he led the league in combined turn overs (in/fumbles) these past two seasons.
*He plays erratic and we just don't know what we're getting week to week.
*He misses easy throws that make me wonder if there is something mentally wrong with him.
*He believes he's more than he actually is (pro bowl flashes when your team is 2-12?)
*He misses a team meeting & the coach makes up an excuse that he went to the movies and wasn't disciplined for it
*He flips his middle finger at his own fans at Met Life..
*He chokes under pressure
*He thrives when there is no pressure (last game of the season past two years)
*The guy takes party pics with Jay Z after loss upon loss which makes me feel that he's an "ALL ME" type of individual.
Again, many feel he's on the team, might as well have him compete for the job. But if he can't become the clear cut starter and beat out the competition, he IMHO, must be cut and give that position to a player worthy of the roster spot.
Todd Bowles, through the tea leaves has preached that turning the ball over is not acceptable here with the Jets at the QB position any longer. There is no more favoritism any more in which makes me feel that much better of the situation.
I hope that the Jets look at every option to upgrade who's under the helm. Whether it be Foles, Bradford or any of the rookies. Whom ever it is, it must be some one that Macagnan, Bowles & the franchise can be 100% comfortable with to get them to the next level.
Giving Geno Smith another opportunity just because he's financially well placed (cheap) on the team is like giving David Klingler countless opportunities thinking he'll turn it around.
(Hell atleast Cincy had reason to give Klingler so many opportunies, he was a 1st rounder. Unlike Smith, whom was a 2nd rounder.)
Would another team bring Geno in to " compete " for the starting job?
End of story
Just because he is on our team , put away the green colored glasses and don't waste any more time on the possible Chan Gaily , miricle worker project.
Again, if this new coaching staff trots Geno out as a starter, you'll see banners, billboards, and planes this time dropping bombs on MetLife.
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End of story
Just because he is on our team , put away the green colored glasses and don't waste any more time on the possible Chan Gaily , miricle worker project.
Again, if this new coaching staff trots Geno out as a starter, you'll see banners, billboards, and planes this time dropping bombs on MetLife.
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Agree
As soon as we stop wasting financial and coaching assets on this pipe dream and the BUST from WVU is out the exit door, the Jets can begin building an NFL offense worth talking about
The red flag for me on Geno was was the fiasco when he was ejected from the plane. Everyone wanted to brush it off as not his fault and he was the "victim". How many of us fly every week for work and have never have any issues like that, or have even seen it happen?
I'm not giving up on him yet, though. He has talent and showed some signs of maturation. But no way in hell do I bet the future of the franchise on him the way Idzik was willing to do last year.
I'm not giving up on him yet, though. He has talent and showed some signs of maturation. But no way in hell do I bet the future of the franchise on him the way Idzik was willing to do last year.
All this is so silly. Geno is just 1 of 4 QBs who will go through camp on the roster and receive the level of coaching the coaches deem is necessary for him to be successful. if he needs more or less time with staff, he'll get it like the other QBs. if he's on the roster or not, it will be up to Mac and Bowles, like the other QBs. We dont know other than Geno and Simms which QBs will be on the roster next year, so this seems like a pretty pointless debate. Just my 2 cents. I hardly ever even open these threads anymore. if we acquire Foles or bradford over the next 2 months, what was the point of arguing about Geno now? It's like arguing if Winters should be our starting OG...we dont even know if we'll be adding another OG in free agency or the draft yet, so why argue about Winters starting at OG? It's the same thing, just more emotions behind the debate I guess because its QB...but we all know another QB will likely be brought in, shouldn't the debate be more over who that will/should be then the imaginary QB battle going on in these posts without knowing who Geno is going against? Just seems silly.