New York Jets 2016 NFL Draft Selections

[gmf1369]

No. 20 Darron Lee

Darron Lee is a fantastic athlete with long arms and aggressive hands, but needs to develop his functional strength to consistently stack and shed at the line of scrimmage and keep himself clean... Although he is still young in linebacker years, he is a high character competitor, playing with sky-high confidence and natural football instincts to pick things up quickly... The Jets noted he will play inside linebacker preferably at the WILL LB spot behind veteran Erin Henderson...

No. 51 Christian Hackenberg

A three-year starter, Hackenberg had a promising freshman campaign in 2013 under the guidance of Bill O'Brien, but his development regressed with the new coaching staff the past two seasons... He didn't receive much help from his surroundings the past two years with questionable play-calling, inconsistent weapons and a leaky offensive line... Is he already damaged goods? Time will tell...

No. 83 Jordan Jenkins

A hybrid edge rusher, Jenkins played in both a two- and three-point stance in Georgia's base 3-4 scheme... He is an athletic mover who can get upfield quickly with burst, using his heavy hands to extend and beat up blockers with his limbs... Jenkins is best attacking the pocket, but at linebacker, his change of direction skills and awareness will be challenged in space...

No. 118 Juston Burris

Burris isn't an elite speed player, but plays with the physicality and ball awareness to fight for playing time early in his career. He is ideally-suited for press-man and will earn his keep on special teams coverage.

No. 158 Brandon Shell

For a man of his size, he shows good initial quickness and holds up well in pass protection because of his length and patience... Shell has the wide base and quickness off the snap to set up shop and engage rushers...

No. 235 Lachlan Edwards

Australian punter with big leg...

No. 241 Charone Peake

Peake has excellent size at 6-foot-3... He has excellent ball skills, hand-eye coordination and can make the difficult catches look easy... Despite the wealth of talent of what was in front of him at Clemson you still wonder why Peake didn't have a better overall career, despite the ACL injury in 2013...

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

Overall, I liked this draft. I thought Macc finished really strong with the punter pick and Peake, who looks like he could make this team. I really liked the Burris pick, too. He looks close to NFL ready. I wasn't thrilled with the Shell pick, he seems like another Jarvis Harrison-type. Lee was a solid first round pick. Hackenberg is a gamble, no doubt about it. But he's a gamble worth taking. This team needs a franchise QB, and he has the skills to be one in a few years.

 

[gmf1369]

Overall, I liked this draft. I thought Macc finished really strong with the punter pick and Peake, who looks like he could make this team. I really liked the Burris pick, too. He looks close to NFL ready. I wasn't thrilled with the Shell pick, he seems like another Jarvis Harrison-type. Lee was a solid first round pick. Hackenberg is a gamble, no doubt about it. But he's a gamble worth taking. This team needs a franchise QB, and he has the skills to be one in a few years.

just added Punter Tom Hackett from Utah as UDFA signing... doing their due diligence...

 

[jets82]

Unlike last years draft that I believe I gave a overall rating of a B or C+, if my memory serves me correct. I love this draft, A+ all around. Even the Hackenburg pick that I initially HATED but he's growing on me also. Great job Mac and TB. The Jets filled all needs with depth back-ups, if not starters. We need LBs but with speed and aggressiveness and they got that, along with Mauldin from last year. They needed a QB obviously and possibly got the best one in the draft (had he been able to play his last two years like he did his rookie year.) They needed secondary help and got that, oline help and got that, a punter and WR and got sleepers that may be our starters this year. The WR being the slot guy ofcourse, unless they move Decker there.

Not to beat a dead horse but last year I wasn't happy at all. I loved the Petty and Mauldin picks. Devon Smith was okay with but thought we could have done MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER. I believe they drafted two olinemen which was a need and understood but if I'm correct, they also drafted a HUGE LB/DE (not Williams) but someone else which I didn't understand that at all either. Which brings me to Williams, I hated that pick! Not to say he wasn't the BPA or the best player in the draft PERIOD. Not doubting that at all but I didn't believe we needed him when Kevin White was staring us right in the damn face. To me, White was a all world WR that we needed bad and we did not need Williams.

Now NO ONE KNEW White was going to get hurt for the year, so PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME THAT BS. Williams played very well for us I must admit and he may turn out to be a HOFer for us, especially if we lose Mo or Richardson and he then becomes our full time starter for the next 13-14 years. So I never doubted Williams talent or potential but I questioned his need for our team. This years draft seemed to be all about filling our needs with the best players they could get, where they drafted them and I LOVE IT. Great job again Mac and TB! A+ all around and that goes for whether these players pan out or not, you guys did your due diligence and drafted very well this year.

 

[gmf1369]

my overall grade on this draft is a (B-) with potential to be a (A-)...

Hackenberg is the long shot, yes he has the intangibles to be a good competitive option but he did have two years of complete dysfunction at Penn State... If any coaching staff has the tools to break down this prospect to rebuild him is our coaching staff in QB coach Patullo...

 

[SackExchange]

my overall grade on this draft is a (B-) with potential to be a (A-)...

Hackenberg is the long shot, yes he has the intangibles to be a good competitive option but he did have two years of complete dysfunction at Penn State... If any coaching staff has the tools to break down this prospect to rebuild him is our coaching staff in QB coach Patullo...

Almost all of the previous QBs the Jets have drafted in the past 15-20 or so years have been safer picks, but with substantially lower ceilings. From Petty to Geno to Sanchez, back from there to Clemens and Pennington, Foley, all of them, have had lower ceilings than Hackenberg.

Now, Hackenberg's floor is way, way down there, down around the fiery pits of hell if his sophomore and junior stats were no aberration, but he is the first QB I remember the Jets drafting in a long, long, long time who actually has legitimate elite QB potential if it all comes together. Geno may be the closest in terms of having had a potential sky-high ceiling, but his skill set was not like what Hackenberg has.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Hackenberg is ging to make or break this draft.

If Gailey can fix his mechanics (and Franklin should be sued for malpractice for what he did to this kid), and if 103 Sacks didn't destroy him mentally like it did with Ken O'Brien back in the day, he can make this a great draft provided a few other picks do reasonably well. If we get him back to the trajectory he was on as a freshman, we'll be calling this a great draft.

I'm starting to come around on Lee now that we drafted the bigger and violent linebacker in Jenkins and I see the big picture, now I'm starting to see how this has a chance to be a very strong linebacker core we have rebuilt, to compliment an already terrific D-line, and I like what Burris adds to the backend too, nice size/speed ratio and the kid can play, I think he will contribute this year in the multiple DB packages, might even surprise people and battle for that CB spot opposite Revis, and I think this will be better than lasts years D and last year it was TOP 5.

But that said, even if its a good draft, Hack can make it a great draft, fix the mess Franklin created and the sky is the limit for this kid, and that means the sky is the limit for this draft class, but it mostly comes down to Hack.

 

[Elias]

I like this draft. There's also a lot more riding on this draft compared to last year. Almost all our picks last year were made with the intent that they will sit and be role players. Williams, there was no need to have him contribute right away. He was slated to sit behind Sheldon and Mo. Smith was going to contribute behind Decker and Marshall, Mauldin behind our LBs, Petty behind Geno/Fitz, etc.

This year we need all our picks from last year to step up and this years crop to step up. We aren't as deep on defense. We'll have a much better understanding on how Mac did much quicker this year.

 

[OCCH]

Hackenberg is going to make or break this draft.

I agree he can "make" it, but don't think he'd "break" it.

First, we didn't trade to get him, so he truly only cost a mid-2nd round pick (which we've whiffed on for a decade, so no surprise if it happens).

Second, we're going in KNOWING he has the potential to epically fail. It's like having a lottery ticket where you've matched 4 of the first 6 numbers -- you WANT to get excited, but deep down you know the odds still aren't in your favor so you won't be crushed if/when it doesn't pan out.

And lastly, like you said, if this draft rebuilds our LB corp, finds a diamond WR late and FINALLY gets us a quality punter? Everything after that is gravy . . .

 

[Jet Blast]

This is Mac's first draft with the scouts he put in place after last years draft. It will be interesting to see if this improves our draft success rate.

 

[Namath12]

Overall, I'm happy with this draft. If Hackenberg eventually becomes the starter, this will go down as a great draft. It should be noted that Mac, TB, the head scout, Gailey,and the QB coach all attended a private workout with Hackenberg, and presumably had a long talk with him. If we are say that we, as laymen and outsiders know better than all of the above men, then we are quite frankly nuts. I did a great deal of reading yesterday, and one of the articles listed all of the QBs that Gailey has worked with. Almost all of them had their best years under Gailey. As our prime example, look at what Chan did with Fitz, whom we all want to return! My main concern with Hack is that he has become gun-shy, as happened with David Carr in Houston. We shall see. In any case, we did NOT give up the farm to draft Hackenberg. It's not as if we traded up and gave up half of our draft, as the first two teams in the draft did this year.

A few other general points: I was the person who first posted the negative evaluations of Pro Football Focus, and I did this *before* the draft started. I do have a great deal of respect for their views, *but*, after my additional reading of other sources, I have realized something about PFF. Their analyses, although extremely sophisticated in most respects, lack context in some instances. For example, with regard to Darron Lee, who was #1 on their "Buyer Beware" list, the analysis mentioned him missing tackles, taking poor angles, etc. However, the PFF write-up did *not* reference the fact that Lee had only been playing linebacker for a short time. Also, an analysis written before the draft would not know that Lee will be playing behind perhaps the best defensive line in the league, thereby providing protection for a light LB. Context is important. It's like a handicapper noting that a horse only finished 6th in his last race, without mentioning that he was trapped along the rail.

Last point for this post: I know that we're all fans, but the knee-jerk negativity of some on this board (and it's worse, I know, on other boards) is monotonous and frustrating. If the Jets don't draft exactly whom *you* want, then everyone involved with the pick is an idiot. There's a phrase for this in psychology: "confirmation bias." There's another word that fits:"childish." Some of the same posters who complained when we *didn't* draft a QB in the 1st round complained when we *did* draft a QB in the 2nd round!! Do you *ever* check yourselves out? If you want to bring up Hackenberg's negatives, go ahead, but...do you realize that the top pick in the draft had a losing record? Most likely, this paragraph will have no effect on those to whom it is directed; it's like trying to argue with a bigot. End of rant.

 

[jetgreen13]

This is Mac's first draft with the scouts he put in place after last years draft. It will be interesting to see if this improves our draft success rate.

i forgot about that..

you raised an excellent question..

 

[Mainejet]

No. 20 Darron Lee

Darron Lee is a fantastic athlete with long arms and aggressive hands, but needs to develop his functional strength to consistently stack and shed at the line of scrimmage and keep himself clean... Although he is still young in linebacker years, he is a high character competitor, playing with sky-high confidence and natural football instincts to pick things up quickly... The Jets noted he will play inside linebacker preferably at the WILL LB spot behind veteran Erin Henderson...

No. 51 Christian Hackenberg

A three-year starter, Hackenberg had a promising freshman campaign in 2013 under the guidance of Bill O'Brien, but his development regressed with the new coaching staff the past two seasons... He didn't receive much help from his surroundings the past two years with questionable play-calling, inconsistent weapons and a leaky offensive line... Is he already damaged goods? Time will tell...

No. 83 Jordan Jenkins

A hybrid edge rusher, Jenkins played in both a two- and three-point stance in Georgia's base 3-4 scheme... He is an athletic mover who can get upfield quickly with burst, using his heavy hands to extend and beat up blockers with his limbs... Jenkins is best attacking the pocket, but at linebacker, his change of direction skills and awareness will be challenged in space...

No. 118 Juston Burris

Burris isn't an elite speed player, but plays with the physicality and ball awareness to fight for playing time early in his career. He is ideally-suited for press-man and will earn his keep on special teams coverage.

No. 158 Brandon Shell

For a man of his size, he shows good initial quickness and holds up well in pass protection because of his length and patience... Shell has the wide base and quickness off the snap to set up shop and engage rushers...

No. 235 Lachlan Edwards

Australian punter with big leg...

No. 241 Charone Peake

Peake has excellent size at 6-foot-3... He has excellent ball skills, hand-eye coordination and can make the difficult catches look easy... Despite the wealth of talent of what was in front of him at Clemson you still wonder why Peake didn't have a better overall career, despite the ACL injury in 2013...

Here's what I see as possible starters out of this bunch, Lee and the Punter. Other than that, every single player is a role player or needs a lot of grooming at a minimum before they can become starters. that does NOT benefit the Jets this season. I also believe that their 1st round selection is a miscast. He cannot play in this defense. He lacks the prototypical size. So IMO he does NOT benefit the defense now or in time. It's a bad pick.

So at least this season we netted ONE starter and that starter is a ST starter, which essentially means a part time player. They did not benefit this team in 2016 at all. Their absolute ceiling for wins this season is 6 IMO.

 

[hobson54]

Their absolute ceiling for wins this season is 6 IMO.

didn't you say the same thing last year???

 

[Oraelo]

Here's what I see as possible starters out of this bunch, Lee and the Punter. Other than that, every single player is a role player or needs a lot of grooming at a minimum before they can become starters. that does NOT benefit the Jets this season. I also believe that their 1st round selection is a miscast. He cannot play in this defense. He lacks the prototypical size. So IMO he does NOT benefit the defense now or in time. It's a bad pick.

So at least this season we netted ONE starter and that starter is a ST starter, which essentially means a part time player. They did not benefit this team in 2016 at all. Their absolute ceiling for wins this season is 6 IMO.

It is amazing how you know who Is a "miscast" or not in TB's defense better that the man himself who probably had a pretty big amount of input in the draft room.

And to say Williams did not benefit this team at all is just plain delusional.

Just a question to satisfy my curiosity, are you highly religious and a really big fan of a certain draft magazine?

 

[gmf1369]

Here's what I see as possible starters out of this bunch

only starter is whomever makes the roster as punter other than that, TB has already stated Erin Henderson is our starter... This regime no matter who is drafted where will be the role player and earn their starting role if they ever do... That is the bench mark of great teams...

 

[Mainejet]

didn't you say the same thing last year???

No. I said between 7 and 9 wins with an absolute ceiling of 10-6. They reached their ceiling, but they were better than I thought. The kind of year Fitz had came out of nowhere. I don't believe anyone could have seen that coming.

 

[Mainejet]

It is amazing how you know who Is a "miscast" or not in TB's defense better that the man himself who probably had a pretty big amount of input in the draft room.

And to say Williams did not benefit this team at all is just plain delusional.

Just a question to satisfy my curiosity, are you highly religious and a really big fan of a certain draft magazine?

WTH are you talking about? Leonard Williams was drafted last season. I am talking about THIS season, get it?

 

[Mainejet]

only starter is whomever makes the roster as punter other than that, TB has already stated Erin Henderson is our starter... This regime no matter who is drafted where will be the role player and earn their starting role if they ever do... That is the bench mark of great teams...

Only this is NOT a great team and you know that. they are looking at 6 wins and I believe I am being truly generous when I say that. More like 5-11.

 

[gmf1369]

Only this is NOT a great team and you know that. they are looking at 6 wins and I believe I am being truly generous when I say that. More like 5-11.

Is this team great, no and I never said it was but this team has a lot of potential and as of right now I am not ready to make any predictions on what our record could be...

come preseason we will have a better understanding of what this team could be, then I will make my predictions on what type of season it could end up being...