Oblowma

[ucrenegade]

Really not even going to bother replying to someone who can't see the TRUE accomplishments Obama has done, despite unprecedented opposition. You're going to believe what you want so I won't bother trying to show you how wrong you are. History will do that for me. BTW I suggest you prepare yourself because either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders will be our next president, whether you like it or not. Your vote for the ridiculous clown known as Trump will mean nothing, because thankfully the rest of America cares more for our country than you do and will not vote in this racist gasbag. A Clinton or Sanders presidency will benefit this country and benefit YOU, and you will never admit it. But they're nice enough to look out for you anyway. You're welcome.

well considering hildebeast lets our soldiers die and is bought and sold to big business and other super pacs more than a thai hooker I will pass.

OBLOWMA has done nothing but put us back in the 50's with the division of our country doesn't sound like a leader.

Hildebeast hopefully will be brought up on trial for her treason in benghazi emails.

If you think this country with the libotards and demodumbasses have us on the right path your fooling yourself, but I am sure their are alot of voters that will vote for those two because the media and hollywood has dumbed down america each generation a little at a time.

as long as they stay in power want to know what the future of americans will be.

 

[Mugatu]

Here's what I don't understand......

I won't debate you on whether Hilary Clinton is bought and paid for, as I belive that is largely true....but what exactly makes you feel that Trump wouldn't be as bad or worse??? He isn't bought and paid for by Wall Street and corporations because HE IS Wall Street and corporations.

He's the one crying about foreigners taking away jobs and outsourcing, while he does that very thing with his own clothing line.

You're telling me that Obama is decisive yet you've got Trump advocating ideas that paint a whole culture (Latinos) and a whole religion (Islam) as "others"

I mean if you really wanted to piss off Wall Street and corporate America, you'd vote Sanders. He wants to kick them and the banking system square in the balls. trump? Why would he? He's one of them.

He's been one of them since his multi millionaire father gave him his "small" loan of a million dollars in 1969 ($7 million in today's dollars). I'm sorry but Trump no better understands the plight of the working man than the Queen of England.

 

[LGM]

Speaking of England, there is a petition signed by thousands that will be debated by Parliament requesting that the Dump be banned from traveling to the UK because of his hatemongering attacks on religious beliefs and ethnic herotages

 

[Elias]

No offense, but how was Obama electable? He was an ivy league educated lawyer who got a teaching job. Never had one day at a real job in his life, and had absolutely no management or foreign relation experience. And his nickname amongst fellow democrats? "Senator no vote"
Obama was the two things people hate the most, a lawyer, and a politician.

I think the point is, that it's all rigged. Who becomes president Matters very little, wr get all worked up about it and fight, and in the end they all suck.

People complain about corrupt politicians, but keep re electing them.

You ask what makes trump a viable candidate, I ask what makes any of them a viable candidate?

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No offense taken Mike. I guess in terms of experience you might be right about Obama not having the most experience but he was presentable. In the debates, he acted and tried like he wanted to be a president.

To me Trump is trying his hardest to finally lose the race and the American people are keeping him on top. He's criticized immigrants, says outrageous things and doesn't even try to brush up on anything to resemble a decent answer in the debates or in the media. Obama at least was knowledgeable or presented himself in a way that appeared presidential.

But great point ok what makes anyone electable. Honestly, it takes more than a president to change the mess in this country.

 

[Elias]

For me the biggest reason he is a viable candidate is because A. I hate this political correct wussy society we are living in now. Screw everyone else we need to take care of americans first. Granted I am sure their are many cool aliens in our country and if they came here legally fine but I have been unemployed as a college degree graduate since the end of 2014 and it pisses me off because oblowma is now trying to bring in how many more refugees and give them work visas.

If Americans can not get jobs then illegals should not be coming to our country and finding work.

The second reason is yes i also noticed his business's have gone bankrupt but that has nothing to do with him identifying to what americans what and need.

The most important reason however is his bulliness he can stand up to goldman and saks and these other big business's like the pharmaceutical companies which means he is less likely to be bought and sold 100 times like hidebeast and oblowma has.

The biggest reason though is oblowma and hildbeast and their stupid liberal ideology will be gone and america can be strong again.

With all due respect Steve, I doubt you want to do any of the jobs that these illegals do. They do the hardest jobs. Stuff that you and I don't want to do.

 

[Elias]

Anyways, the real problem in this country was touched on by Obama in his state of the Union address. We have transformed from a manafacturing country where we made everything to a country who's main focus is finance. We lost a ton of jobs to computers.

 

[ucrenegade]

Here's what I don't understand......

I won't debate you on whether Hilary Clinton is bought and paid for, as I belive that is largely true....but what exactly makes you feel that Trump wouldn't be as bad or worse??? He isn't bought and paid for by Wall Street and corporations because HE IS Wall Street and corporations.

He's the one crying about foreigners taking away jobs and outsourcing, while he does that very thing with his own clothing line.

You're telling me that Obama is decisive yet you've got Trump advocating ideas that paint a whole culture (Latinos) and a whole religion (Islam) as "others"

I mean if you really wanted to piss off Wall Street and corporate America, you'd vote Sanders. He wants to kick them and the banking system square in the balls. trump? Why would he? He's one of them.

He's been one of them since his multi millionaire father gave him his "small" loan of a million dollars in 1969 ($7 million in today's dollars). I'm sorry but Trump no better understands the plight of the working man than the Queen of England.

I am not advocating trump I just said I will vote for him before i ever say anything good about hildbeast. My preference is Dr. Ben Carson.

 

[ucrenegade]

With all due respect Steve, I doubt you want to do any of the jobs that these illegals do. They do the hardest jobs. Stuff that you and I don't want to do.

In some cases that may be true but affirmitive action effects all jobs not just the the unwanted.

 

[Bigmoe]

You guys don't actually believe a president controls things? Do you?

 

[Mugatu]

I am not advocating trump I just said I will vote for him before i ever say anything good about hildbeast. My preference is Dr. Ben Carson.

Well... From the looks of things, Dr Carson isn't going to be the nominee. Unless something crazy happens and he somehow turns his campaign around. However... He is not performing well in the debates and his support seems to evaporated in the past two months.

 

[ucrenegade]

Well... From the looks of things, Dr Carson isn't going to be the nominee. Unless something crazy happens and he somehow turns his campaign around. However... He is not performing well in the debates and his support seems to evaporated in the past two months.

If it is GOD's will Ben Carson will win if not then I am fine because then I vote Trump.

 

[Mugatu]

God would not be pleased with Trump.....

He's a phoney Christian.

 

[ucrenegade]

God would not be pleased with Trump.....

He's a phoney Christian.

Most are phonie christians that is why the bible says narrow is the gate and few find it........during the end times he says only a remnant will be saved which denotes a small number not a leading agency like the papal or vatican religions. Hence why the pope is a fraud.

 

[Mugatu]

Most are phonie christians that is why the bible says narrow is the gate and few find it........during the end times he says only a remnant will be saved which denotes a small number not a leading agency like the papal or vatican religions. Hence why the pope is a fraud.

I'm not arrogant enough to condemn someone to hell because they have been raised in another faith or sect of Christianity. I will however judge people based on the tenets of the religion that they espouse. Trump claims to be a good Christian, yet promotes very unchristian ideas. I will hold him accountable for his hypocrisy in this regard.

When you use your faith as a weapon or exclusionary tactic against marginalized members of society, it only exhibits how flimsy your argument or faith must be. Strength is through acceptance of those who hold different viewpoints or religions. This acceptance doesn't lessen your beliefs....and Intimidation and condemnation only shows your ideas to be weak in nature and principles.

One day we will all be accountable to our maker. I feel confident that if/when that day happens, that God will be more interested in WHAT we did and HOW we lived our lives than our ability to adhere to dogma.

 

[ucrenegade]

I'm not arrogant enough to condemn someone to hell because they have been raised in another faith or sect of Christianity. I will however judge people based on the tenets of the religion that they espouse. Trump claims to be a good Christian, yet promotes very unchristian ideas. I will hold him accountable for his hypocrisy in this regard.

When you use your faith as a weapon or exclusionary tactic against marginalized members of society, it only exhibits how flimsy your argument or faith must be. Strength is through acceptance of those who hold different viewpoints or religions. This acceptance doesn't lessen your beliefs....and Intimidation and condemnation only shows your ideas to be weak in nature and principles.

One day we will all be accountable to our maker. I feel confident that if/when that day happens, that God will be more interested in WHAT we did and HOW we lived our lives than our ability to adhere to dogma.

First I don't believe in a literal hell again that is the papacy and second I also believe their are many people in all religions that are god's people and a time will come for them to be called out and to be the remnant I only use my faith as a weapon when i am in defense of GOD and being attacked. The papacy uses it to distort the bible and subdue true christianity.

GOD is interested in do you follow his law or man's those that follow his commandments in the end will be the remnant.

 

[Mugatu]

Firstly, I was originally talking about Trump using his "faith" as a weapon... Not you.

However....

You claim you don't use it as a weapon, except when you (out of nowhere) decided to slander the Pope and the entire Catholic Church.

Look, I am not even Catholic, but you need to re-examine that last statement, because from where I am sitting you just did exactly what you claimed you do not do.

 

[LGM]

There is no God

Men invented such crap to explain thunder, lightning and eclipses. Fortunately we should all know better now

All bible toters such as priests, pastors, rabbis, mullahs, et al are money grubbing parasites preying on the deluded with moronic fairy tales and magic acts

Atheism is the only true religion

 

[ucrenegade]

Firstly, I was originally talking about Trump using his "faith" as a weapon... Not you.

However....

You claim you don't use it as a weapon, except when you (out of nowhere) decided to slander the Pope and the entire Catholic Church.

Look, I am not even Catholic, but you need to re-examine that last statement, because from where I am sitting you just did exactly what you claimed you do not do.

it is not slander it is truth ever hear of the dark ages? Read up on papal history and martin luther and the waldenses, and the antipapist.

 

[ucrenegade]

There is no God

Men invented such crap to explain thunder, lightning and eclipses. Fortunately we should all know better now

All bible toters such as priests, pastors, rabbis, mullahs, et al are money grubbing parasites preying on the deluded with moronic fairy tales and magic acts

Atheism is the only true religion

lol exactly what the bible says non-believers would say funny how people living way before our time can explain what the thoughts and actions of people doing not even born or thought of yet can be so right with the stuff going on in a world they didn't know. That is because the bible was written by men inspired by GOD who knows everything and how the world would turn out.

 

[ucrenegade]

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