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Green Jets & Ham;n145504 said:
Obviously we couldn't get jackshit for Richardson or Pryor.

still early, the rumors for Richardson was a 4th and well thats tomorrow...

expect the same price could be for Pryor if he truly is on the trade block...
 

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Green Jets & Ham;n145504 said:
Obviously we couldn't get jackshit for Richardson or Pryor.

I figured it would be a third day deal. Hoping for a fourth for Richardson. And if such a trade is there, it would more likely happen during the round.
 

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107th worth 80 pts

we receive 2 picks that are worth 56.6
 

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yep we got robbed -- truly not a strong suit for Macc as a negotiator...

Depends. Where is TB's fourth?

I will say this - I do not think much of Belichick as a drafter. He really has, at best, a mediocre record over the years in drafting, which is one reason they rely on free agency and trades so often. That said, he is outstanding at trading and accumulating picks. He's a mastermind at pulling off great deals to build up a pick stockpile. If he was ever a good drafter, they would never, ever lose.
 

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Depends. Where is TB's fourth?

I will say this - I do not think much of Belichick as a drafter. He really has, at best, a mediocre record over the years in drafting, which is one reason they rely on free agency and trades so often. That said, he is outstanding at trading and accumulating picks. He's a mastermind at pulling off great deals to build up a pick stockpile. If he was ever a good drafter, they would never, ever lose.

125th - 18th pick
 

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107th worth 80 pts

we receive 2 picks that are worth 56.6

Yeah. The chart doesn't mean much in the early rounds, because of the salary slot. But it's still valuable in the later rounds. And that is twice that the team traded down and got the lesser of the deal. Generally, the team trading up for a guy is the one who takes a slight loss, not the team trading back. Not happy about that.
 

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Depends. Where is TB's fourth?

I will say this - I do not think much of Belichick as a drafter. He really has, at best, a mediocre record over the years in drafting, which is one reason they rely on free agency and trades so often. That said, he is outstanding at trading and accumulating picks. He's a mastermind at pulling off great deals to build up a pick stockpile. If he was ever a good drafter, they would never, ever lose.

Belichik is a better drafter than most give him credit for. He picks people that fit his system. People here would call for his head if he made the type of selections he makes with the Pats because it's never a big name or a player people heard of but he has a philosophy and tries to get people to fit in to the system he chooses.
 

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Yeah. The chart doesn't mean much in the early rounds, because of the salary slot. But it's still valuable in the later rounds. And that is twice that the team traded down and got the lesser of the deal. Generally, the team trading up for a guy is the one who takes a slight loss, not the team trading back. Not happy about that.

would of been happy if they grabbed 4th & 5th not a 6th could of also grabbed a 2018 pick but it seems Macc is a pussy when it comes to negotiating with other GM's...

two trade downs and we were shitted on...

if the team wants to move up dont just jump on the first offer, geez I swear tomorrow will look uglier than tonight...

hope he doesn't get suckered in giving away a future premo pick to move Sheldon or Pryor while taking a late round in return... <<< this is what he makes me feel...
 

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Belichik is a better drafter than most give him credit for. He picks people that fit his system. People here would call for his head if he made the type of selections he makes with the Pats because it's never a big name or a player people heard of but he has a philosophy and tries to get people to fit in to the system he chooses.

He busts an awful lot, though, especially with early picks - especially especially with DL.
 

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He busts an awful lot, though, especially with early picks - especially especially with DL.

he strikes gold with OL, RB and S...

he steals prime players in FA: WR, CB, DL

he makes those optimal trades for LB & TEs
 

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would of been happy if they grabbed 4th & 5th not a 6th could of also grabbed a 2018 pick but it seems Macc is a pussy when it comes to negotiating with other GM's...

two trade downs and we were shitted on...

if the team wants to move up dont just jump on the first offer, geez I swear tomorrow will look uglier than tonight...

hope he doesn't get suckered in giving away a future premo pick to move Sheldon or Pryor while taking a late round in return... <<< this is what he makes me feel...

No, no. That won't happen. Being slightly on the losing end of a deal is different from shedding an awful contract like Osweiler's. If he was going to make a bad deal with one of them, he already would have. He may not get a lot, but that's different from what we're talking here.
 

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he strikes gold with OL, RB and S...

he steals prime players in FA: WR, CB, DL

he makes those optimal trades for LB & TEs

Sounds about right. And he gets guys to come to the Pats for cut-rate deals, which helps. Enough guys want a shot at the ring that they're willing to take less money and get treated as horribly as the Pats treat players, just to get that shot.
 

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No, no. That won't happen. Being slightly on the losing end of a deal is different from shedding an awful contract like Osweiler's. If he was going to make a bad deal with one of them, he already would have. He may not get a lot, but that's different from what we're talking here.

just saying this is how he makes me feel being shitted on in compensation with multiple teams offering and only moving down twice for peanuts...
 

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just saying this is how he makes me feel being shitted on in compensation with multiple teams offering and only moving down twice for peanuts...

Understood. And the deals have not been what they should have been. It counts against him ultimately.
 
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